Done With This Joke Of A Team
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I can safely say I'll be a browns fan till the day I die. I'll root for the team, try to watch as many games in the season as possible (live in NC), and proudly rock my browns gear year round. I'll get mad during the game and enjoy a few cold ones with my supportive girlfriend and sometimes mom and dad when I come into town. The biggest thing with me though is simple: it's football, not life or death. Being in the real world now (I'm about to turn 23), there's so many other things in the world to worry about and care a whole more about than a crappy playing football team. I honestly feel bad for some of you guys on here who let the Browns bring you down so much. Sure, I like to blow off steam when they lose but by Sunday at 5 I'm over it. My advice to the OP is just relax and relish the moments when the teach is actually doing well. Focus on being a good dad and husband and find another hobby that doesn't involve continual losing and disappointment.
The only thing I will say is there no way in hell I'd pay season ticket type money to watch the browns. I'll gladly support a local business on watch them on TV but to pay the cost of tickets to watch the crap the browns typically put on the field is crazy to me.
Well, as a season ticket holder, let me put things in perspective. You're 23, and with good health should see the Browns win at least a couple of Super Bowls. Us oldsters who are nearing Social Security age probably won't be so lucky.
We got spoiled as kids- the Browns won all the time- the equivalent of the Yankees in baseball. In the first 25 years I was cognizant enough to follow the NFL and Browns, Cleveland had three losing seasons. We've had two winning seasons in the last thirteen. Not acceptable the way the NFL is set up for parity. I've seen teams go from the gutter to the Super Bowl while we've been spinning our wheels in the basement muck.
How do I feel Monday after yet another loss at the Factory of Sadness (that could easily have been a win with better coaching)? Still honked off. I was about physically ill for a day after Byner got stripped in the Denver fumble game. Sat in what was to become the Dawg Pound for Sipe's Red Right 88, and to this day I still get mad thinking about what might have been. You could have heard a pin drop in the stadium after that interception, if you want to talk about stunned silence.
Oh, back to season tickets. If you're a long time season ticket holder, you're more married to your seats than your wife. And again, some perspective. When the Browns came back, I knew it was now or never to get decent seats, so I went in on my lifelong friend's seniority. It cost me $1,500 for the PSLs (payable in 3 annual installments). Yes, I know- that can buy a lot of beer. However, we've managed over the years to work our way down to the 20 yard line in the lower deck- and that's probably as good as we're going to be able to do- even with the Browns playing like garbage, we've put in for seat improvement the last 5 years, and come up empty. Anyone who already has those premium seats (inside the 25 yard lines) won't just walk away from them- they'll get whatever the market will bear on e-Bay or Craiglist. And even with the eventuality Haslam will significantly raise ticket prices, Browns tickets are a bargain compared to major college football. For example, I got invited to the Ohio State- Illinois game. The Buckeye season ticket holder who invited me pays not only the $70 for corner endzone seats (as opposed to my $75 for 20 yard sideline) but also has to cough up $1,000 per seat every year (as a generous donation to the Athletic Department) for the privilege of buying them. That works out to $195 per game to watch OSU beat the snot out of teams like Buffalo and Florida A&M. BTW, that sort of stuff isn't isolated to Ohio State. My PSL was a one shot deal in comparison. Yes, sometimes I wonder why I waste the seven hours of driving to see the Browns lose yet again. But I feel there's real hope for this team. We finally have some talent- all we need is a better coach.
Well, as a season ticket holder, let me put things in perspective. You're 23, and with good health should see the Browns win at least a couple of Super Bowls. Us oldsters who are nearing Social Security age probably won't be so lucky.
We got spoiled as kids- the Browns won all the time- the equivalent of the Yankees in baseball. In the first 25 years I was cognizant enough to follow the NFL and Browns, Cleveland had three losing seasons. We've had two winning seasons in the last thirteen. Not acceptable the way the NFL is set up for parity. I've seen teams go from the gutter to the Super Bowl while we've been spinning our wheels in the basement muck.
How do I feel Monday after yet another loss at the Factory of Sadness (that could easily have been a win with better coaching)? Still honked off. I was about physically ill for a day after Byner got stripped in the Denver fumble game. Sat in what was to become the Dawg Pound for Sipe's Red Right 88, and to this day I still get mad thinking about what might have been. You could have heard a pin drop in the stadium after that interception, if you want to talk about stunned silence.
Oh, back to season tickets. If you're a long time season ticket holder, you're more married to your seats than your wife. And again, some perspective. When the Browns came back, I knew it was now or never to get decent seats, so I went in on my lifelong friend's seniority. It cost me $1,500 for the PSLs (payable in 3 annual installments). Yes, I know- that can buy a lot of beer. However, we've managed over the years to work our way down to the 20 yard line in the lower deck- and that's probably as good as we're going to be able to do- even with the Browns playing like garbage, we've put in for seat improvement the last 5 years, and come up empty. Anyone who already has those premium seats (inside the 25 yard lines) won't just walk away from them- they'll get whatever the market will bear on e-Bay or Craiglist. And even with the eventuality Haslam will significantly raise ticket prices, Browns tickets are a bargain compared to major college football. For example, I got invited to the Ohio State- Illinois game. The Buckeye season ticket holder who invited me pays not only the $70 for corner endzone seats (as opposed to my $75 for 20 yard sideline) but also has to cough up $1,000 per seat every year (as a generous donation to the Athletic Department) for the privilege of buying them. That works out to $195 per game to watch OSU beat the snot out of teams like Buffalo and Florida A&M. BTW, that sort of stuff isn't isolated to Ohio State. My PSL was a one shot deal in comparison. Yes, sometimes I wonder why I waste the seven hours of driving to see the Browns lose yet again. But I feel there's real hope for this team. We finally have some talent- all we need is a better coach.
Great post. I was born in '63, went to my first game in '72. I've got way to much emotional investment & season ticket investment to ever give up on my team.
I happened to be born in the same year Modell fired Paul Brown....sometimes, I think I'm The Omen lol.
I do think better times are coming soon. Bad drafting & bad coaching, with a sprinkle of bad luck can't last forever. If Dick Vermeil could turn the Rams around in one season, someone can do it here.
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Just clicking.
I understand where the poster comes from. If he's a real fan he will be back on board by Wednesday. Sometimes we vent.
For me, I am most likely going to upgrade to club seats next season. I don't have much seniority with this being my 7th season as a season ticket holder. I bought my seats through a private sale from some guy who had about 30 sets of season tickets he bought when the team came back.
I am in row 19 of the upper, 45 yard line, great seats, but would like to move lower. I now know that isn't happening anytime soon as many of those uppers on the 50's are held for Browns Amumni, so moving lower in the section isn't much of a option. My PSL value, $1500 per seat is a wash with any seats in the house, so I will be able to transfer those, so it's time to make the move to the club. Maybe this way my wife will go up with me a bit more. (I don't want her to come to all of them, but a couple a year would be nice...she's my ballast.)
I guess what I am saying is there is no way I can't root for the Browns, but I will say I am glad I gave my tickets away last week to a buddy who lives in Columbus and didn't have to face a 582 mile drive from the hotel to my home today. It gets pretty long after throwing away winnable games.
I'll be up over Thanksgiving. Thursday in Cincy. Friday afternoon tour of the Clubs with my wife and my ticket rep...I need to close the deal....she'll love it. Friday night in Vermillion to eat at a French restaurant we love...one of the best in the country, no doubt, then to Berea the last two nights.
That closes my Browns season on the road.
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I've been going to Brown's games since they came back. It's not working. This team is just not moving forward. Before moving to Cleveland, I lived in Pgh. (I am Ohio Born) I watched the passion and determination of that organization make winners.
There just isn't the sheer WANT or NEED or passion to FREAKIN' WIN on the Browns Team. Today was it for me, for a while. I'm not paying any more attention to this train wreck, because this year is scrap and done. Another F'n wasted year!!!!!!! I am not listening to 93.2 the FAN everyday like I used to. I'm done with it all. I have 3 kids, work and life. I am investing NO MORE in this piece of crap organization. For those that know me, you can have my tickets and my spot at the Lot. I'm going to work on my car on Sundays and not put myself through this JOKE of a team any longer. Hi honey, I'm home!!
I've been going to Brown's games since they came back. It's not working. This team is just not moving forward. Before moving to Cleveland, I lived in Pgh. (I am Ohio Born) I watched the passion and determination of that organization make winners.
There just isn't the sheer WANT or NEED or passion to FREAKIN' WIN on the Browns Team. Today was it for me, for a while. I'm not paying any more attention to this train wreck, because this year is scrap and done. Another F'n wasted year!!!!!!! I am not listening to 93.2 the FAN everyday like I used to. I'm done with it all. I have 3 kids, work and life. I am investing NO MORE in this piece of crap organization. For those that know me, you can have my tickets and my spot at the Lot. I'm going to work on my car on Sundays and not put myself through this JOKE of a team any longer. Hi honey, I'm home!!
obviously not a real fan. If you are you will be watching the Dallas game and just bitch more after that one. I do not believe that any true football fan can passionately root for a team, give it up, and then root for another. In the same way I do not believe a true fan can just completely give it up all together. The browns will turn it around. I live in Texas where there are nothing but Dallas fans and bandwagon steelers fans ( Houston fans ONLY in the city limits of Houston) so it sucks being a browns fan here. All of the shit talking from every jackass who says "I've never met a browns fan before" like a fucking moron can eat my dick when we win our first Super Bowl. To be a browns fan is pure passion, no t shirt fans, no bandwagon fans, and damn sure no fucking fair weather fans. So if you truly want to throw in the towel, good riddance fake fan
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I've been through too much to give up now.
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@mike-h said:
LOL, love it.
This is good forum-ing.
it's the most ridiculous form of late night drunk texting.
some times it's just worth the wait to see which ghoulie comes out the closet swinging love or hate.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Mike, if I didn't include all the other stuff, it would be impossible for me to detect the true intellects on this board. THESE, people like you and Mik (and others) for instance that I enjoy the banter with.
When I post shit like Luck is only 3-3, or Eric Heiden, it is bait for nincompoops. I like to think of myself as the pied piper of people who take themselves far, far too seriously.
That as it is, I still am dead on much more than anyone in the media, the sidelines or this board. I am humble, too.
I am humble , too. That's some funny shit. I've been posting on this board for only a short time, and I can already see I will laughing my ass off most times you post. You're a somewhat intelligent true browns fan with a gift for shit talking other teams fans , I love it.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Poin of Parlimentary procedure, Mik..........
Like the great Ernie Anderson, I spell Ghoolie and NOT Ghoulie. Ghoolardi was actually Ernie's prefered spelling for his alter ego, and in his honor I maintain the same syntax.
YOu wanna guess now, if I am going to be nice or nasty?
Mik, you no good prick kisser, spell my name right, ya bastard!
On a sincere note, I am excited about the Browns and it took a long time for me to get back on board. What gets my venom are people like this OldColt queen coming to our board so we can watch him give Luck a blowjob. Go Browns.
oh shit. then you're gonna hate the post i left on another thread.
all in peace brother.
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Holy hell I didn't know I was so young compared to you guys.
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Well, I remember Dad and I going to see the Browns play the Steelers at an exibition game at the University of Akron Rubber Bowl.
And I'm starting to apply for social security this week....@@
Hang in there - geez, you don't have so long to wait.
On a long and arduous trail in the woods, finally getting to the fresh spring water
is worth the trouble. Or something like that.....
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