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Right To Work State?

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  • hammertimeH hammertime

    i'm well aware that ohio is not a right to work state.

    if it were, the wages that the building trades have worked so hard for would be reduced.

    i'm strictly speaking for the building trades. the building trades unions have set the precedent for what all workers recieve.

    i'm not sure why my union represents a threat to the republicans, but i can guarantee i earn every penny i'm paid.

    and going to a right to work state immediately jeaprodises everything i have worked for.

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    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @hammertime said:

    i'm well aware that ohio is not a right to work state.

    if it were, the wages that the building trades have worked so hard for would be reduced.

    i'm strictly speaking for the building trades. the building trades unions have set the precedent for what all workers recieve.

    i'm not sure why my union represents a threat to the republicans, but i can guarantee i earn every penny i'm paid.

    and going to a right to work state immediately jeaprodises everything i have worked for.

    Sorry dude, screw the unions. You're overpaid and the reason companies are leaving in droves.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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      @hammertime said:

      i'm well aware that ohio is not a right to work state.

      if it were, the wages that the building trades have worked so hard for would be reduced.

      i'm strictly speaking for the building trades. the building trades unions have set the precedent for what all workers recieve.

      i'm not sure why my union represents a threat to the republicans, but i can guarantee i earn every penny i'm paid.

      and going to a right to work state immediately jeaprodises everything i have worked for.

      Sorry dude, screw the unions. You're overpaid and the reason companies are leaving in droves.

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      hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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      @diehardbrownsfan said:

      Sorry dude, screw the unions. You're overpaid and the reason companies are leaving in droves.

      you obviously did not read what i said.

      guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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      • F FairHooker11

        I think unions are a good when they are thought of as a common good for people like you and me.

        I just dont have an answer to the corruption part.

        I think you are right that both parties have a stake in this, but I think in the end, while it seems to be political,

        it will be about business, its ambition and mostly the bottom line - like payroll

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        @fairhooker11 said:

        I think unions are a good when they are thought of as a common good for people like you and me.

        I just dont have an answer to the corruption part.

        I think you are right that both parties have a stake in this, but I think in the end, while it seems to be political,

        it will be about business, its ambition and mostly the bottom line - like payroll

        It's all political with them.

        Chew on this one a minute..crews from Alabama headed north to help restore power in NJ but were turned away because they weren't members of the IBEW.

        It was more important they were union members then it was for them to help restore power to the people left without in the wake of Sandy.

        I don't care what anybody says....that sucks. I'll bet the people who will be delayed further in getting power would have loved seeing those Alabama crews working on their street and couldn't care less if they were union members.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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        • hammertimeH hammertime

          @diehardbrownsfan said:

          Sorry dude, screw the unions. You're overpaid and the reason companies are leaving in droves.

          you obviously did not read what i said.

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          @hammertime said:

          you obviously did not read what i said.

          You're right, lol.

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            Anybody who has been in corp America as a non-union employee - should know that

            the job security against abuse and unfair labor practices is one of the reasons unions helped build this country.

            But, too many are out of control, and some, like the AFL-CIO, have a socialist dirtbag mouthpiece as the president whatever.

            Not good.

            The way it should be, ends up being somewhere between the greed of the unions, and the greed of Corp America bigshots.

            A long distance from each side.

            Too bad, but it's true.

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              Hammer, are you talking about union carpenters bricklayers electricians concrete guys and so forth?

              Frankly I have no idea how much challenging any or all of these jobs are or how much union members get paid.

              I think I've made this point before, though maybe not to you.

              I have no beef with people forming unions.

              If the trade or skill they represent is vital to running a business then I assume management must pay what they ask.

              But if there are plenty of workers, non union workers, willing and eager to take those jobs at a much lower rate management should be allowed to hire them.

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                Hammer, are you talking about union carpenters bricklayers electricians concrete guys and so forth?

                Frankly I have no idea how much challenging any or all of these jobs are or how much union members get paid.

                I think I've made this point before, though maybe not to you.

                I have no beef with people forming unions.

                If the trade or skill they represent is vital to running a business then I assume management must pay what they ask.

                But if there are plenty of workers, non union workers, willing and eager to take those jobs at a much lower rate management should be allowed to hire them.

                WSS

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                hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                Hammer, are you talking about union carpenters bricklayers electricians concrete guys and so forth?

                Frankly I have no idea how much challenging any or all of these jobs are or how much union members get paid.

                I think I've made this point before, though maybe not to you.

                I have no beef with people forming unions.

                If the trade or skill they represent is vital to running a business then I assume management must pay what they ask.

                But if there are plenty of workers, non union workers, willing and eager to take those jobs at a much lower rate management should be allowed to hire them.

                WSS

                Thats exactly who i'm referring to.

                The issue is alot deeper than just wages. We will go in reverse as far benefits, safety, quality and representation. I do think a thourough housecleaning is in order for even my union as well. There is a reason there is a 8 hour workday and a 2 day weekend.

                I guess where ever there is large money there will be corruption. Sigh.

                guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                  hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                  i'll let you know how its going in 4 yrs. and where do i get an Obama phone?

                  guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                  • hammertimeH hammertime

                    i'll let you know how its going in 4 yrs. and where do i get an Obama phone?

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                    @hammertime said:

                    i'll let you know how its going in 4 yrs. and where do i get an Obama phone?

                    http://www.freegovernmentcellphones.net/

                    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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                      F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                      maybe a newly innitiated national bus pass?

                      to go along with the $5,6....10 gasoline? 🙁

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