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    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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    Marijuana legal in two more states, gay marriage legal in two others. Akin and Mourdock were legitimately raped at the polls. Romney isn't president.

    Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

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      Marijuana legal in two more states, gay marriage legal in two others. Akin and Mourdock were legitimately raped at the polls. Romney isn't president.

      Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

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      @vaportrail said:

      Marijuana legal in two more states, gay marriage legal in two others. Akin and Mourdock were legitimately raped at the polls. Romney isn't president.

      Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

      Great day for the Liberals, a bad day for America. Unless you think socialism is a good idea. And in regards to Gay Marriage and dope legalization- like the Roman Empire, we won't get beaten from the outside, we're rotting from the inside out. If you don't see the parallels, you're blind.

      I'd suggest a summer vacation to Greece next year- to get a first hand idea of where this country is headed economically.

      FWIW, VT no country in the history of the world has ever gotten out of a debt load the USA is carrying without hyperinflating the currency. The only reason it hasn't happened already is the Feds keeping interest rates artificially low. BTW, China holds most of the IOUs. When our ship sinks, we're taking the rest of the world down with us.

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        @vaportrail said:

        Marijuana legal in two more states, gay marriage legal in two others. Akin and Mourdock were legitimately raped at the polls. Romney isn't president.

        Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

        Great day for the Liberals, a bad day for America. Unless you think socialism is a good idea. And in regards to Gay Marriage and dope legalization- like the Roman Empire, we won't get beaten from the outside, we're rotting from the inside out. If you don't see the parallels, you're blind.

        I'd suggest a summer vacation to Greece next year- to get a first hand idea of where this country is headed economically.

        FWIW, VT no country in the history of the world has ever gotten out of a debt load the USA is carrying without hyperinflating the currency. The only reason it hasn't happened already is the Feds keeping interest rates artificially low. BTW, China holds most of the IOUs. When our ship sinks, we're taking the rest of the world down with us.

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        @hoorta said:

        Great day for the Liberals, a bad day for America. Unless you think socialism is a good idea. And in regards to Gay Marriage and dope legalization- like the Roman Empire, we won't get beaten from the outside, we're rotting from the inside out. If you don't see the parallels, you're blind.

        I'd suggest a summer vacation to Greece next year- to get a first hand idea of where this country is headed economically.

        FWIW, VT no country in the history of the world has ever gotten out of a debt load the USA is carrying without hyperinflating the currency. The only reason it hasn't happened already is the Feds keeping interest rates artificially low. BTW, China holds most of the IOUs. When our ship sinks, we're taking the rest of the world down with us.

        We can tax marijuana sales and gay people will throw extravagantly expensive weddings.

        If that doesn't stimulate the economy, nothing will.

        And Greece is beautiful this time of year.

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          Lol, we let gay people get married now our country will implode... HAHAHAHA

          Wow, you guys. Where does that belief even come from? Is it all just from a relgious belief system? I'm happy that it seems like no one in my generation really gives a shit about religion. THAT is a step in the right direction.

          Legalizing pot is smart. Makes it safer, you can tax it, and u aren't wasting all that money and prison space to lock up "criminals" that have a little weed on them.

          I'm happy a good amount of crazy right wing tea party guys lost as well. It seems like the Reps need to cut off that part of their party and fast. All the economic stuff is reasonable, but you aren't gonna win the next generations vote on "Real America this, gays are bad that, the Earth is 6000 years old, legitimate rape, etc"

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            When I was young anything my Father or anyone "old" told me, I would automatically think it was wrong and think the opposite. However, with age does come learning. And one thing I did learn was that almost all of the stuff my father told me, was true. Best way to learn is thru experience, and you will learn, believe me.

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              Lol, we let gay people get married now our country will implode... HAHAHAHA

              Wow, you guys. Where does that belief even come from? Is it all just from a relgious belief system? I'm happy that it seems like no one in my generation really gives a shit about religion. THAT is a step in the right direction.

              Legalizing pot is smart. Makes it safer, you can tax it, and u aren't wasting all that money and prison space to lock up "criminals" that have a little weed on them.

              I'm happy a good amount of crazy right wing tea party guys lost as well. It seems like the Reps need to cut off that part of their party and fast. All the economic stuff is reasonable, but you aren't gonna win the next generations vote on "Real America this, gays are bad that, the Earth is 6000 years old, legitimate rape, etc"

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              @mld-woody said:

              Lol, we let gay people get married now our country will implode... HAHAHAHA

              Wow, you guys. Where does that belief even come from? Is it all just from a relgious belief system? I'm happy that it seems like no one in my generation really gives a shit about religion. THAT is a step in the right direction.

              Legalizing pot is smart. Makes it safer, you can tax it, and u aren't wasting all that money and prison space to lock up "criminals" that have a little weed on them.

              I'm happy a good amount of crazy right wing tea party guys lost as well. It seems like the Reps need to cut off that part of their party and fast. All the economic stuff is reasonable, but you aren't gonna win the next generations vote on "Real America this, gays are bad that, the Earth is 6000 years old, legitimate rape, etc"

              Yup, we really should take the "In God we trust" off of everything. That's obviously long out the window. The America I grew up in is as dead as your God. Done traded equality of opportunity for equality of outcome. The last great Democrat- Jack Kennedy's words sure are upside down. "Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you." The entitlement Generation has won- I just hope I'm dead before the Big Implosion happens- and it's as certain as the sun coming up in the morning.

              BTW, what Gay people do is between them and God- and if you don't believe in Him, then anything goes. Just don't expect me to accept your actions as OK.

              As far as marijuana, why stop there? Hell, let's legalize crack cocaine and heroin while we're at it. Don't really care.

              What I do care about is this country is headed off a financial cliff, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes.

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                Marijuana legal in two more states, gay marriage legal in two others. Akin and Mourdock were legitimately raped at the polls. Romney isn't president.

                Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

                http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

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                @vaportrail said:

                Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

                http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

                This has really flew under the radar, I am not 100% sure of the next step for Puerto Rico, but wouldn't all they need is the approval of congress?

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                  @vaportrail said:

                  Marijuana legal in two more states, gay marriage legal in two others. Akin and Mourdock were legitimately raped at the polls. Romney isn't president.

                  Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

                  Great day for the Liberals, a bad day for America. Unless you think socialism is a good idea. And in regards to Gay Marriage and dope legalization- like the Roman Empire, we won't get beaten from the outside, we're rotting from the inside out. If you don't see the parallels, you're blind.

                  I'd suggest a summer vacation to Greece next year- to get a first hand idea of where this country is headed economically.

                  FWIW, VT no country in the history of the world has ever gotten out of a debt load the USA is carrying without hyperinflating the currency. The only reason it hasn't happened already is the Feds keeping interest rates artificially low. BTW, China holds most of the IOUs. When our ship sinks, we're taking the rest of the world down with us.

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                  @hoorta said:

                  Great day for the Liberals, a bad day for America. Unless you think socialism is a good idea. And in regards to Gay Marriage and dope legalization- like the Roman Empire, we won't get beaten from the outside, we're rotting from the inside out. If you don't see the parallels, you're blind.

                  I'd suggest a summer vacation to Greece next year- to get a first hand idea of where this country is headed economically.

                  FWIW, VT no country in the history of the world has ever gotten out of a debt load the USA is carrying without hyperinflating the currency. The only reason it hasn't happened already is the Feds keeping interest rates artificially low. BTW, China holds most of the IOUs. When our ship sinks, we're taking the rest of the world down with us.

                  Some aspects of socialism are a good idea. I am 100% an advocate of socialized healthcare. Not seeing how gay marriage and pot legalization apply to the fall of the Roman Empire. Please expand. As for our debt, I agree with you. I think a depression is likely on the way. What I don't see is a viable solution to it from either party. So, may as well eat, drink, and be merry before everything goes to shit. The Constitution survived the Great Depression and two world wars. It'll make it through the next one.

                  @hoorta said:

                  Yup, we really should take the "In God we trust" off of everything. That's obviously long out the window. The America I grew up in is as dead as your God. Done traded equality of opportunity for equality of outcome. The last great Democrat- Jack Kennedy's words sure are upside down. "Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you." The entitlement Generation has won- I just hope I'm dead before the Big Implosion happens- and it's as certain as the sun coming up in the morning.

                  BTW, what Gay people do is between them and God- and if you don't believe in Him, then anything goes. Just don't expect me to accept your actions as OK.

                  As far as marijuana, why stop there? Hell, let's legalize crack cocaine and heroin while we're at it. Don't really care.

                  What I do care about is this country is headed off a financial cliff, full speed ahead, damn the torpedoes.

                  That's really not true at all. I am the American Dream. The opportunity for social mobility is there, it's just much more difficult now than it was 50 years ago. The path with the least risk is through education and lots of it. That's the path I chose. I'm the only one in my family to do that.

                  And if you can't see the difference between heroin and pot, well, you're blind. You do realize that alcohol is more hazardous to your health than pot? Anyways, want to grab a beer this weekend? (I'm being serious, I have an exam on Wednesday and just need to find a hole in the wall to wind down afterwards)

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                    Always surprised when a medical professional believes the legalization of marijuana is the worst thing evar! Not sure if said opinion's based more on a survey of the medical evidence or a visceral dislike of the dudes who had a blast while they were studying for their MCATs.

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                      I know you were referring the Hoorta (obviously), but I personally don't think that legalizing pot would be a big deal. It would add substantial revenue to the government thru taxes, and I doubt that people would smoke it any more then they are now. It would put the illegal dealers out of business. I'm sure that the Tobacco Companies would jump on the Pot growing business with earnest, seeings as how cig smoking is going down, slowly but surely.

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                        I know you were referring the Hoorta (obviously), but I personally don't think that legalizing pot would be a big deal. It would add substantial revenue to the government thru taxes, and I doubt that people would smoke it any more then they are now. It would put the illegal dealers out of business. I'm sure that the Tobacco Companies would jump on the Pot growing business with earnest, seeings as how cig smoking is going down, slowly but surely.

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                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                        I know you were referring the Hoorta (obviously), but I personally don't think that legalizing pot would be a big deal. It would add substantial revenue to the government thru taxes, and I doubt that people would smoke it any more then they are now. It would put the illegal dealers out of business. I'm sure that the Tobacco Companies would jump on the Pot growing business with earnest, seeings as how cig smoking is going down, slowly but surely.

                        And just think of the snack companies, how their profit will sore through the roof.

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                          Hell yeah. After wavering back and forth on the issue, I've decided I have nothing against Gay Marriage. Who am I to tell others how to live their lives? I'm not the one to judge them. Government is secular anyway, so taking religious views out of the equation, there's no reason to be against it.

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                            When I was young anything my Father or anyone "old" told me, I would automatically think it was wrong and think the opposite. However, with age does come learning. And one thing I did learn was that almost all of the stuff my father told me, was true. Best way to learn is thru experience, and you will learn, believe me.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @diehardbrownsfan said:

                            When I was young anything my Father or anyone "old" told me, I would automatically think it was wrong and think the opposite. However, with age does come learning. And one thing I did learn was that almost all of the stuff my father told me, was true. Best way to learn is thru experience, and you will learn, believe me.

                            OK, I'll agree with my dad. A smart, self employed businessman with a masters in engineering.

                            And... I still think the same.

                            Gays aren't gonna end America. Lol

                            I don't think everyone older than me is wrong. I'm not some Retarded rebellious youth like I guess you were.

                            What about people older than you that agree with me?

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                              @diehardbrownsfan said:

                              When I was young anything my Father or anyone "old" told me, I would automatically think it was wrong and think the opposite. However, with age does come learning. And one thing I did learn was that almost all of the stuff my father told me, was true. Best way to learn is thru experience, and you will learn, believe me.

                              OK, I'll agree with my dad. A smart, self employed businessman with a masters in engineering.

                              And... I still think the same.

                              Gays aren't gonna end America. Lol

                              I don't think everyone older than me is wrong. I'm not some Retarded rebellious youth like I guess you were.

                              What about people older than you that agree with me?

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              OK, I'll agree with my dad. A smart, self employed businessman with a masters in engineering.

                              And... I still think the same.

                              Gays aren't gonna end America. Lol

                              I don't think everyone older than me is wrong. I'm not some Retarded rebellious youth like I guess you were.

                              What about people older than you that agree with me?

                              Forget it Woody.

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                                Most gay people I know aren't immoral people. I don't think the the lone act of being gay is immoral. I consider rape, murder, burglary, and other violent crimes and property crimes to be immoral.

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                                  Agreed, DH. Not a panacea but also not a big deal, except for the people who wouldn't needlessly be locked up. I bet the decline in prison costs would be more significant than any added tax revenue.

                                  And we're fortunate that corruption is low enough that more than a few folks would shift to the legal market -- I don't think the same would be true in all countries.

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                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    OK, I'll agree with my dad. A smart, self employed businessman with a masters in engineering.

                                    And... I still think the same.

                                    Gays aren't gonna end America. Lol

                                    I don't think everyone older than me is wrong. I'm not some Retarded rebellious youth like I guess you were.

                                    What about people older than you that agree with me?

                                    Forget it Woody.

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                                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                    Forget it Woody.

                                    Correct, what you said was dumb. That "I'm older than you so I automatically know better about everything" is bull

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                                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                      Forget it Woody.

                                      Correct, what you said was dumb. That "I'm older than you so I automatically know better about everything" is bull

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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Correct, what you said was dumb. That "I'm older than you so I automatically know better about everything" is bull

                                      Of course it is, just as denying that experience is worthless.

                                      It's a new America. One I personally think is going out with the trash, but it is what it is, and admittedly, just this posters opinion.

                                      If younger people want the government to run the show for the most part, that is how it is going to be...as long as this country remains as is...which I doubt.

                                      In short order....and by short I mean possibly 5-10-15-20-25-30 years....no answer to that, some areas of the country are going to pull out, and there won't be a fight this time....we'll be some sort of Republic with a strong alliance, but separate forms of government.

                                      I for one as an example an tired of a city such as NYC negating the state of Tennessee. States are more important than cities any way you cut it. Shoot...take NYC out of NY and it might be a red state.

                                      It's happening. This divide we now experience isn't going to be repaired as it crosses political, economic, and religious lines. If the divide only crossed two as it has in the past, it could usually be worked out, with religious lines holding things together as the common thread.

                                      Now that that is broken, it's over. There is no binding element.

                                      Here is my prediction...where it all starts...you are going to see a state, or states start to offer up their own currency...a chit system, which we had 100-150 years ago....once you see that, it won't be long.

                                      It's over folks, and that isn't commentary on President Obama winning the election. I just think the divide between the various sections of the country are too wide to ever be repaired.

                                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                        @vaportrail said:

                                        Marijuana legal in two more states, gay marriage legal in two others. Akin and Mourdock were legitimately raped at the polls. Romney isn't president.

                                        Oh yeah, Puerto Rico wants to be a state. This one kinda slipped under the radar.

                                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20238272

                                        Great day for the Liberals, a bad day for America. Unless you think socialism is a good idea. And in regards to Gay Marriage and dope legalization- like the Roman Empire, we won't get beaten from the outside, we're rotting from the inside out. If you don't see the parallels, you're blind.

                                        I'd suggest a summer vacation to Greece next year- to get a first hand idea of where this country is headed economically.

                                        FWIW, VT no country in the history of the world has ever gotten out of a debt load the USA is carrying without hyperinflating the currency. The only reason it hasn't happened already is the Feds keeping interest rates artificially low. BTW, China holds most of the IOUs. When our ship sinks, we're taking the rest of the world down with us.

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                                        @hoorta said:

                                        Great day for the Liberals, a bad day for America. Unless you think socialism is a good idea. And in regards to Gay Marriage and dope legalization- like the Roman Empire, we won't get beaten from the outside, we're rotting from the inside out. If you don't see the parallels, you're blind.

                                        I'd suggest a summer vacation to Greece next year- to get a first hand idea of where this country is headed economically.

                                        FWIW, VT no country in the history of the world has ever gotten out of a debt load the USA is carrying without hyperinflating the currency. The only reason it hasn't happened already is the Feds keeping interest rates artificially low. BTW, China holds most of the IOUs. When our ship sinks, we're taking the rest of the world down with us.

                                        Yeah and when we made alcohol illegal the country went into the toilet. All it did was make the American mafia rich and powerful

                                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Correct, what you said was dumb. That "I'm older than you so I automatically know better about everything" is bull

                                          Of course it is, just as denying that experience is worthless.

                                          It's a new America. One I personally think is going out with the trash, but it is what it is, and admittedly, just this posters opinion.

                                          If younger people want the government to run the show for the most part, that is how it is going to be...as long as this country remains as is...which I doubt.

                                          In short order....and by short I mean possibly 5-10-15-20-25-30 years....no answer to that, some areas of the country are going to pull out, and there won't be a fight this time....we'll be some sort of Republic with a strong alliance, but separate forms of government.

                                          I for one as an example an tired of a city such as NYC negating the state of Tennessee. States are more important than cities any way you cut it. Shoot...take NYC out of NY and it might be a red state.

                                          It's happening. This divide we now experience isn't going to be repaired as it crosses political, economic, and religious lines. If the divide only crossed two as it has in the past, it could usually be worked out, with religious lines holding things together as the common thread.

                                          Now that that is broken, it's over. There is no binding element.

                                          Here is my prediction...where it all starts...you are going to see a state, or states start to offer up their own currency...a chit system, which we had 100-150 years ago....once you see that, it won't be long.

                                          It's over folks, and that isn't commentary on President Obama winning the election. I just think the divide between the various sections of the country are too wide to ever be repaired.

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                                          @ballpeen said:

                                          Of course it is, just as denying that experience is worthless.

                                          It's a new America. One I personally think is going out with the trash, but it is what it is, and admittedly, just this posters opinion.

                                          If younger people want the government to run the show for the most part, that is how it is going to be...as long as this country remains as is...which I doubt.

                                          In short order....and by short I mean possibly 5-10-15-20-25-30 years....no answer to that, some areas of the country are going to pull out, and there won't be a fight this time....we'll be some sort of Republic with a strong alliance, but separate forms of government.

                                          I for one as an example an tired of a city such as NYC negating the state of Tennessee. States are more important than cities any way you cut it. Shoot...take NYC out of NY and it might be a red state.

                                          It's happening. This divide we now experience isn't going to be repaired as it crosses political, economic, and religious lines. If the divide only crossed two as it has in the past, it could usually be worked out, with religious lines holding things together as the common thread.

                                          Now that that is broken, it's over. There is no binding element.

                                          Here is my prediction...where it all starts...you are going to see a state, or states start to offer up their own currency...a chit system, which we had 100-150 years ago....once you see that, it won't be long.

                                          It's over folks, and that isn't commentary on President Obama winning the election. I just think the divide between the various sections of the country are too wide to ever be repaired.

                                          I don't think I ever said experience was worthless, that's stupid. If "real America" wants to secede be my guest. They better do it while all the older Tea Party members are still alive though...

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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