Good Day To Be A Liberal
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When I was young anything my Father or anyone "old" told me, I would automatically think it was wrong and think the opposite. However, with age does come learning. And one thing I did learn was that almost all of the stuff my father told me, was true. Best way to learn is thru experience, and you will learn, believe me.
OK, I'll agree with my dad. A smart, self employed businessman with a masters in engineering.
And... I still think the same.
Gays aren't gonna end America. Lol
I don't think everyone older than me is wrong. I'm not some Retarded rebellious youth like I guess you were.
What about people older than you that agree with me?
OK, I'll agree with my dad. A smart, self employed businessman with a masters in engineering.
And... I still think the same.
Gays aren't gonna end America. Lol
I don't think everyone older than me is wrong. I'm not some Retarded rebellious youth like I guess you were.
What about people older than you that agree with me?
No, I didn't say forget it because I gave in, I said forget it because you are still a stupid ass kid. And no matter what I say to your dumb ass, you won't agree, so, I give up. Fuck off and learn the hard way dumb ass.
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Correct, what you said was dumb. That "I'm older than you so I automatically know better about everything" is bull
Of course it is, just as denying that experience is worthless.
It's a new America. One I personally think is going out with the trash, but it is what it is, and admittedly, just this posters opinion.
If younger people want the government to run the show for the most part, that is how it is going to be...as long as this country remains as is...which I doubt.
In short order....and by short I mean possibly 5-10-15-20-25-30 years....no answer to that, some areas of the country are going to pull out, and there won't be a fight this time....we'll be some sort of Republic with a strong alliance, but separate forms of government.
I for one as an example an tired of a city such as NYC negating the state of Tennessee. States are more important than cities any way you cut it. Shoot...take NYC out of NY and it might be a red state.
It's happening. This divide we now experience isn't going to be repaired as it crosses political, economic, and religious lines. If the divide only crossed two as it has in the past, it could usually be worked out, with religious lines holding things together as the common thread.
Now that that is broken, it's over. There is no binding element.
Here is my prediction...where it all starts...you are going to see a state, or states start to offer up their own currency...a chit system, which we had 100-150 years ago....once you see that, it won't be long.
It's over folks, and that isn't commentary on President Obama winning the election. I just think the divide between the various sections of the country are too wide to ever be repaired.
I for one as an example an tired of a city such as NYC negating the state of Tennessee. States are more important than cities any way you cut it. Shoot...take NYC out of NY and it might be a red state.
It's happening. This divide we now experience isn't going to be repaired as it crosses political, economic, and religious lines. If the divide only crossed two as it has in the past, it could usually be worked out, with religious lines holding things together as the common thread.
Now that that is broken, it's over. There is no binding element.
Interesting take.
There is so much "instant news" now, with social media & many news channels, it definitely takes it's toll on our opinions. This forum is a great example.
As far as NYC negating TN, the founding fathers were smart when they created the concept of the House & Senate, so states got represented in the Senate, and the House would be a bit "more local" in it's form...unfortunately they never realized the legal system would create so many laws/regulations that need to be sorted through.
I am truly hoping the Republican & Democrat party get challenged, so America can move forward- there is so much money there, I doubt it will ever happen.
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I know what you think
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little johnny woodypeckerhead - you don't know life. zilch, nada.
just another elitist little punk, who is anti-everthing status quo, with a gay sassy quip about everything you don't have a clue about.
Seriously woodypeckerhead flea - your Father started his engineering business? In Real America.
You try the same in the America that is happening now? Good luck, but that won't help you..
Well, this country is the greatest country on earth - but it's going to fall apart
under the weight of overwhelming entitlement giveaway freebie spending,
and anti-everything sentiments against real marriage, honor, integrity, our military,
and our freedom via our Constitution.
I honestly won't be surprised if something? happens to two of the conservative U.S. Supreme Court Justices
if they don't retire well before ObaMAO leaves ? office.
Thank God for the strong Republican control of the House.
And I think they picked up a few in the Senate - some of the radical marixst fascist garbage by
ObaMAO will be stopped.
But, America is now on the skids - it started decades ago with illegals stampeding here,
and entitlement spending creating an environment where single POOR women, especially blacks,
took to happily having out of wedlock kids for the immediate gov dole they would get.
And now, it's a second and third generation of leeches on the finances that are intended to help those
who fall into the safety net. It started with little mentally warped hatefilled marxist professors flocking
to universities across the country - to spout their hateful garbage. And little hateful lemmings like
Bill and Higgardly Clinton, Obamao, Holder, Angela Davis, Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, Pelosi, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorn, and the rest -
found a niche for losers to become winners - in the radical hate everthing club.
America is being destroyed by a corrupt president, corrupt dems throughout the gov, some corrupt reps,
but mostly, a sickness - even our "justice dept" is right out of a horror movie.
We are going from Reagan's "Shining City on a Hill"......
to political/emotional/legal extortion to extract money and freedom from Real Americans.
The ones who pay the bills, WITH THEIR OWN HARDWORKED FOR MONEY.
I hear our cell phone bills have a charge on it - that pays for the cell phone give away.
I think it was over a million folks got free cell phones. - a LOT of them in Ohio.
Bribery and egg sucking losers mugging America ...are an entire gigantic subculture now.
The suffering is going to be terrible when our economy crashes completely - it's only a matter of time now
with this debt - that Obamao said Bush was "UNPATRIOTIC" for.... when it was 6 trillion bucks smaller than his own, now.
It's all lies and manipulation, character assasination and approved by Obamao INjustice dept threats.
When it all starts falling apart - it will be too late for any kind of quick fix for America.
Seriously - start researching on stocking up on food, storing your own food and supplies. Invest in
some protection for your family - gun(s), ammo, community security watch type of things...eventually,
and start to change the way you live - freedom isn't free - and the left is now paying any price for
everyone else to lose theirs. It's becoming an upside down world.
I was talking to some stupid pizza place kid, I mentioned the Weimar Republic. He frowned and said he never heard ot it.
You will, stupid - and Obamao will preside over the disaster. A global crisis is looming - and with all the debt, many
experts see no way out - unless there are huge, huge cuts in spending soon.
Not good. No wonder people are flocking by the hundreds and hundreds, to their local
extensiion ag agents and ag offices - to learn gardening. They are scared of what is surely coming.
Or, ObaMao changes into a genuine American, and does the opposite of what he's done the past four years....
IOW's,,, buy, store food, learn to garden, buy guns, ammo, toilet paper....
I wonder if it's possible to make your own toilet paper. Like, What did they do back in the early settler days?
Maple leaves?
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I think you discount the number of "younger" Americans want what Mamma and Daddy had.
Plus, with estate taxes, you won't get what ever is left of what they had....part of the socialist agenda is no pass down of wealth.
Your Grandmama's china your Mama now holds...don't think your future daughter is getting that.
Just saying
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I want more. I want to be more successful. Not that they aren't, I am just going to try to keep improving.
Cal, you can keep pushing your doomsday end of America shit, idc. Most sane people aren't gonna believe you. Buy guns, buy a bunker, hoard your food, idc. You're crazy, you really are. IDK how you got to the point where you think that stuff, but I guess it is a good testament to the affect media sources can have on people.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
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Lol, we let gay people get married now our country will implode... HAHAHAHA
Wow, you guys. Where does that belief even come from? Is it all just from a relgious belief system? I'm happy that it seems like no one in my generation really gives a shit about religion. THAT is a step in the right direction.
Legalizing pot is smart. Makes it safer, you can tax it, and u aren't wasting all that money and prison space to lock up "criminals" that have a little weed on them.
I'm happy a good amount of crazy right wing tea party guys lost as well. It seems like the Reps need to cut off that part of their party and fast. All the economic stuff is reasonable, but you aren't gonna win the next generations vote on "Real America this, gays are bad that, the Earth is 6000 years old, legitimate rape, etc"
Lol, we let gay people get married now our country will implode... HAHAHAHA
Wow, you guys. Where does that belief even come from? Is it all just from a relgious belief system? I'm happy that it seems like no one in my generation really gives a shit about religion. THAT is a step in the right direction.
Legalizing pot is smart. Makes it safer, you can tax it, and u aren't wasting all that money and prison space to lock up "criminals" that have a little weed on them.
I'm happy a good amount of crazy right wing tea party guys lost as well. It seems like the Reps need to cut off that part of their party and fast. All the economic stuff is reasonable, but you aren't gonna win the next generations vote on "Real America this, gays are bad that, the Earth is 6000 years old, legitimate rape, etc"
I'm not very religious and don't support gay marriage but support civil union. Don't know why gays have to cry about it when civil unions give them the same rights financially wise.
And I'll be completely honest, I'd rather stay in the orphanage than have two gay moms or two dads(as well as rather stay having two alcoholic parents or drug addict, which is even worse). It's just forcing an unnatural situation, you see gay animals too but they don't raise any animals, approximately 10% of them are gay just like humans.
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Of course it is, just as denying that experience is worthless.
It's a new America. One I personally think is going out with the trash, but it is what it is, and admittedly, just this posters opinion.
If younger people want the government to run the show for the most part, that is how it is going to be...as long as this country remains as is...which I doubt.
In short order....and by short I mean possibly 5-10-15-20-25-30 years....no answer to that, some areas of the country are going to pull out, and there won't be a fight this time....we'll be some sort of Republic with a strong alliance, but separate forms of government.
I for one as an example an tired of a city such as NYC negating the state of Tennessee. States are more important than cities any way you cut it. Shoot...take NYC out of NY and it might be a red state.
It's happening. This divide we now experience isn't going to be repaired as it crosses political, economic, and religious lines. If the divide only crossed two as it has in the past, it could usually be worked out, with religious lines holding things together as the common thread.
Now that that is broken, it's over. There is no binding element.
Here is my prediction...where it all starts...you are going to see a state, or states start to offer up their own currency...a chit system, which we had 100-150 years ago....once you see that, it won't be long.
It's over folks, and that isn't commentary on President Obama winning the election. I just think the divide between the various sections of the country are too wide to ever be repaired.
I don't think I ever said experience was worthless, that's stupid. If "real America" wants to secede be my guest. They better do it while all the older Tea Party members are still alive though...
I don't think I ever said experience was worthless, that's stupid. If "real America" wants to secede be my guest. They better do it while all the older Tea Party members are still alive though...
Woody- it's not a question of age. Well, maybe it is. Way back in 1970 our Woodstock Generation thought we had all the answers. Turns out we didn't. Hate to tell you in about 30-40 years, you're going to find out the same. LOL, when YOUR kids tell you you're full of shit.
LOL, I used to have the same argument with my uncle- 45 years ago. Was it Ben Franklin who said "those that would trade freedom for security will have neither." ? This is a lot less free country than it was in 1970. Hell, Homeland Security would have had me locked up for years with the stuff I had in my basement chem lab back then- and no, I wasn't making meth- just had all the ingredients to whip up some rocket fuel.
Ballpeen has a very valid point- the way our Electoral College is set up- you carry NY and CA, you're already 1\2 way home. One look at the electoral map will tell you that. Obama is strictly "the man of the big cities". Heartland America hates his guts, and everything he stands for. I won't repeat the anti-Obama slur I saw in a restroom in South Dakota in August- but trust me, I'll NEVER forget it.
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I want more. I want to be more successful. Not that they aren't, I am just going to try to keep improving.
Cal, you can keep pushing your doomsday end of America shit, idc. Most sane people aren't gonna believe you. Buy guns, buy a bunker, hoard your food, idc. You're crazy, you really are. IDK how you got to the point where you think that stuff, but I guess it is a good testament to the affect media sources can have on people.
I want more. I want to be more successful. Not that they aren't, I am just going to try to keep improving.
Cal, you can keep pushing your doomsday end of America shit, idc. Most sane people aren't gonna believe you. Buy guns, buy a bunker, hoard your food, idc. You're crazy, you really are. IDK how you got to the point where you think that stuff, but I guess it is a good testament to the affect media sources can have on people.
Cal isn't crazy- and probably not that far off.
Two questions - and no cheating.
1) What was the Weimar Republic?
2) Why is gold now selling @ $1,700 an ounce?
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Lol, we let gay people get married now our country will implode... HAHAHAHA
Wow, you guys. Where does that belief even come from? Is it all just from a relgious belief system? I'm happy that it seems like no one in my generation really gives a shit about religion. THAT is a step in the right direction.
Legalizing pot is smart. Makes it safer, you can tax it, and u aren't wasting all that money and prison space to lock up "criminals" that have a little weed on them.
I'm happy a good amount of crazy right wing tea party guys lost as well. It seems like the Reps need to cut off that part of their party and fast. All the economic stuff is reasonable, but you aren't gonna win the next generations vote on "Real America this, gays are bad that, the Earth is 6000 years old, legitimate rape, etc"
I'm not very religious and don't support gay marriage but support civil union. Don't know why gays have to cry about it when civil unions give them the same rights financially wise.
And I'll be completely honest, I'd rather stay in the orphanage than have two gay moms or two dads(as well as rather stay having two alcoholic parents or drug addict, which is even worse). It's just forcing an unnatural situation, you see gay animals too but they don't raise any animals, approximately 10% of them are gay just like humans.
I'm not very religious and don't support gay marriage but support civil union. Don't know why gays have to cry about it when civil unions give them the same rights financially wise.
And I'll be completely honest, I'd rather stay in the orphanage than have two gay moms or two dads(as well as rather stay having two alcoholic parents or drug addict, which is even worse). It's just forcing an unnatural situation, you see gay animals too but they don't raise any animals, approximately 10% of them are gay just like humans.
Civil unions don't give gay couples the same benefits as straight couples.
http://www.factcheck.org/what_is_a_civil_union.html
Woody- it's not a question of age. Well, maybe it is. Way back in 1970 our Woodstock Generation thought we had all the answers. Turns out we didn't. Hate to tell you in about 30-40 years, you're going to find out the same. LOL, when YOUR kids tell you you're full of shit.
LOL, I used to have the same argument with my uncle- 45 years ago. Was it Ben Franklin who said "those that would trade freedom for security will have neither." ? This is a lot less free country than it was in 1970. Hell, Homeland Security would have had me locked up for years with the stuff I had in my basement chem lab back then- and no, I wasn't making meth- just had all the ingredients to whip up some rocket fuel.
Ballpeen has a very valid point- the way our Electoral College is set up- you carry NY and CA, you're already 1\2 way home. One look at the electoral map will tell you that. Obama is strictly "the man of the big cities". Heartland America hates his guts, and everything he stands for. I won't repeat the anti-Obama slur I saw in a restroom in South Dakota in August- but trust me, I'll NEVER forget it.
Hoorta, I don't think anyone here is claiming that Obama's going to do a perfect job. Clearly, we're going to fuck some things up, that is the nature of politics. We just think the Dems are doing less to screw up the country than Republicans.
As for freedom. I agree. I'd trade away all the economic decisions Obama is making for a Gary Johnson presidency that would repeal the NDAA and Patriot Act. Those two are unconstitutional pieces of shit.
Heartland America is a bunch of ignorant racists (see Bunker/T's rants). I'd wager that a good majority of these heartland voters don't like them because they think he's going to take away their guns. Guess what? That's not happening. We may very well see restrictions on assault weapons in light of Aurora, but everyone is still going to be able to own hunting rifles and shotguns. Furthermore, the knock that I've seen a bunch of, that I really can't stand, is "WAAAHHHH, now I'm not gonna have a job when I graduate." Go read the fucking CBO's job projections.
The majority of this country doesn't like the Tea Party's politics, and it'd do the Republicans well to step away from the lunatic religious right. Romney easily won the WASP vote. They're not the majority anymore. Minorities, women, and young people are who got Obama elected. Old, white men aren't going to have as much say as they've had in previous elections, and I'm very much okay with that.
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In 1988, George H.W. Bush took 60% of the White vote and won in a landslide over
Dukakis with over 400 Electoral votes.
2 days ago Mitt Romney took 60% of the White vote and lost with
200 Electoral votes.
Like it or not, the Republican Party is going to have to find a way to attract
Blacks and Hispanics if they have any hopes of winning a future National election.
And the "Blacks are lazy and all on welfare and Hispanics are all here illegally and
need to go back where they came from" rants are definitely not going to help their cause.
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Lol, we let gay people get married now our country will implode... HAHAHAHA
Wow, you guys. Where does that belief even come from? Is it all just from a relgious belief system? I'm happy that it seems like no one in my generation really gives a shit about religion. THAT is a step in the right direction.
Legalizing pot is smart. Makes it safer, you can tax it, and u aren't wasting all that money and prison space to lock up "criminals" that have a little weed on them.
I'm happy a good amount of crazy right wing tea party guys lost as well. It seems like the Reps need to cut off that part of their party and fast. All the economic stuff is reasonable, but you aren't gonna win the next generations vote on "Real America this, gays are bad that, the Earth is 6000 years old, legitimate rape, etc"
I'm not very religious and don't support gay marriage but support civil union. Don't know why gays have to cry about it when civil unions give them the same rights financially wise.
And I'll be completely honest, I'd rather stay in the orphanage than have two gay moms or two dads(as well as rather stay having two alcoholic parents or drug addict, which is even worse). It's just forcing an unnatural situation, you see gay animals too but they don't raise any animals, approximately 10% of them are gay just like humans.
I'm not very religious and don't support gay marriage but support civil union. Don't know why gays have to cry about it when civil unions give them the same rights financially wise.
And I'll be completely honest, I'd rather stay in the orphanage than have two gay moms or two dads(as well as rather stay having two alcoholic parents or drug addict, which is even worse). It's just forcing an unnatural situation, you see gay animals too but they don't raise any animals, approximately 10% of them are gay just like humans.
... you'd rather be in an orphanage than have two parents that love you?
And now we're following the animal kingdom? You really want to do that everywhere?
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I don't think I ever said experience was worthless, that's stupid. If "real America" wants to secede be my guest. They better do it while all the older Tea Party members are still alive though...
Woody- it's not a question of age. Well, maybe it is. Way back in 1970 our Woodstock Generation thought we had all the answers. Turns out we didn't. Hate to tell you in about 30-40 years, you're going to find out the same. LOL, when YOUR kids tell you you're full of shit.
LOL, I used to have the same argument with my uncle- 45 years ago. Was it Ben Franklin who said "those that would trade freedom for security will have neither." ? This is a lot less free country than it was in 1970. Hell, Homeland Security would have had me locked up for years with the stuff I had in my basement chem lab back then- and no, I wasn't making meth- just had all the ingredients to whip up some rocket fuel.
Ballpeen has a very valid point- the way our Electoral College is set up- you carry NY and CA, you're already 1\2 way home. One look at the electoral map will tell you that. Obama is strictly "the man of the big cities". Heartland America hates his guts, and everything he stands for. I won't repeat the anti-Obama slur I saw in a restroom in South Dakota in August- but trust me, I'll NEVER forget it.
Woody- it's not a question of age. Well, maybe it is. Way back in 1970 our Woodstock Generation thought we had all the answers. Turns out we didn't. Hate to tell you in about 30-40 years, you're going to find out the same. LOL, when YOUR kids tell you you're full of shit.
LOL, I used to have the same argument with my uncle- 45 years ago. Was it Ben Franklin who said "those that would trade freedom for security will have neither." ? This is a lot less free country than it was in 1970. Hell, Homeland Security would have had me locked up for years with the stuff I had in my basement chem lab back then- and no, I wasn't making meth- just had all the ingredients to whip up some rocket fuel.
Ballpeen has a very valid point- the way our Electoral College is set up- you carry NY and CA, you're already 1\2 way home. One look at the electoral map will tell you that. Obama is strictly "the man of the big cities". Heartland America hates his guts, and everything he stands for. I won't repeat the anti-Obama slur I saw in a restroom in South Dakota in August- but trust me, I'll NEVER forget it.
I'm pretty sure age isn't going to make me religious, or make me thunks gays shouldn't be married, or make me borderline racist, or make me pro life, etc etc
I don't think I have all the answers, I never said I did. I do think a lit of what some posters on this board is crazy and I hope s majority of people would. And I'm guessing my generation would which means our kids will as well, cuz it would be hard to regress like that
But like some of you have said, I'm in college and you're older, clearly you're right and I'm wrong
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I don't think I ever said experience was worthless, that's stupid. If "real America" wants to secede be my guest. They better do it while all the older Tea Party members are still alive though...
Woody- it's not a question of age. Well, maybe it is. Way back in 1970 our Woodstock Generation thought we had all the answers. Turns out we didn't. Hate to tell you in about 30-40 years, you're going to find out the same. LOL, when YOUR kids tell you you're full of shit.
LOL, I used to have the same argument with my uncle- 45 years ago. Was it Ben Franklin who said "those that would trade freedom for security will have neither." ? This is a lot less free country than it was in 1970. Hell, Homeland Security would have had me locked up for years with the stuff I had in my basement chem lab back then- and no, I wasn't making meth- just had all the ingredients to whip up some rocket fuel.
Ballpeen has a very valid point- the way our Electoral College is set up- you carry NY and CA, you're already 1\2 way home. One look at the electoral map will tell you that. Obama is strictly "the man of the big cities". Heartland America hates his guts, and everything he stands for. I won't repeat the anti-Obama slur I saw in a restroom in South Dakota in August- but trust me, I'll NEVER forget it.
Ballpeen has a very valid point- the way our Electoral College is set up- you carry NY and CA, you're already 1\2 way home. One look at the electoral map will tell you that. Obama is strictly "the man of the big cities". Heartland America hates his guts, and everything he stands for. I won't repeat the anti-Obama slur I saw in a restroom in South Dakota in August- but trust me, I'll NEVER forget it.
That's because 46 million people live in NYC and CA combined.
You win the places that have more people, you get more electoral votes. That just makes sense.
Heartland america can hate him all they want. "Brainland", the part of America that uses rationality and logic, will continue to like him.
I'm sure the slur had nothing to do with race, we all know how educated those in the "heartland" are.
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Electoral College needs to go. Just outright who wins the most votes, period. That is fair to all concerned. Even Al Gore agrees.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
True, but the majority of that population is in urban areas. The largest part of California isn't urban settings.
I understand that the numbers win. The problem is the numbers don't reflect the largest area of the country.
As I said earlier, take NYC out of NY and you probably have a red state. With that you tend to have people who rely on social services more than on their own resources.
Here is the biggest problem I have with the democratic party. I think it is fair to say that most people who receive some sort of federal or state assistance vote democrat by a large margin.
It's my opinion that if a person receives a certain percentage of their income from a program that hasn't been earned, such as social security, they shouldn't be allowed to vote because it's pretty clear they will vote for whoever isn't going to threaten their cash cow.
Voting should be a earned right. I know a good test. If you paid more in federal and state taxes than you received in some form of benefit over a 4 year election cycle, you have the right to vote on the national and state wide issues.
You would always be allowed to vote the local issues. That way their dumb choices impact just them and their neighbors and not people on the other side of the state or country.
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Electoral College needs to go. Just outright who wins the most votes, period. That is fair to all concerned. Even Al Gore agrees.
Electoral College needs to go. Just outright who wins the most votes, period. That is fair to all concerned. Even Al Gore agrees.
No, that's not the answer. Then all one would have to do is cover the 10 largest cities and not worry about trying to lure voters in Kansas or Tennessee. The Electoral College is still very necessary.
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I vote for my IQ test system where the better you score the more your vote us worth. Must of the problems would be like world events, how our govt works, economics, etc.
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Electoral College needs to go. Just outright who wins the most votes, period. That is fair to all concerned. Even Al Gore agrees.
Electoral College needs to go. Just outright who wins the most votes, period. That is fair to all concerned. Even Al Gore agrees.
Then republicans would have a harder time getting elected than before. Electoral college allows smaller population states like Montana to have a slightly larger vote in the national election. If it was just a popular vote, then instead of states like Ohio and Florida being swing states, cities like NY, LA, and Chicago would be the major focus, these areas tend to vote democratic. In only 3 elections has the winner of electoral college vote not had the popular vote(most recently 2000).
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