Israel Offed A Military Chief Of Hamas
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I know that there are many Iranians that don't like the regime, but are there enough of them? At this time, I would have to say no. Seems like the Arab uprisings have all sort of cooled down except for Syria.
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Iran's got enemies other than the US & Israel who'll freak out if they get nukes. I bet Saudi Arabia would want to go nuclear, a very bad idea for a gov't that could get toppled by crazies.
If Pakistan, Iran, and Saudia Arabia all have nukes...I don't particularly like our odds of the shit never hitting the fan.
Iran's got enemies other than the US & Israel who'll freak out if they get nukes. I bet Saudi Arabia would want to go nuclear, a very bad idea for a gov't that could get toppled by crazies.
If Pakistan, Iran, and Saudia Arabia all have nukes...I don't particularly like our odds of the shit never hitting the fan.
FYI Pakistan has nukes. But you are right about Saudia Arabia would want to get nukes if Iran does, so would Turkey.
Edit: Turkey has nuclear weapons also, but they borrow through NATO from the US.
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I think that's a fair assessment Alol.
And at least you understand what I mean by civilized.
Keep these crazy f****** from having a Bomb until the very last chance.
As far as actions we could take to make the region more peaceful? I'm thinking that's probably wishful thinking. I certainly don't think that throwing Israel under the bus will be very helpful. I think the Palestinian ordeal is nothing but an excuse. Uncivilized elements will just find different reasons for there, well, incivility.
What actually would ease the tension is if we can get the Lollipop Guild to quit blocking US energy production. The closer we get to energy independence the better. Of course China will still want oil so the Middle East will continue to be in same but for our part will have a better hand to play.
Keep in mind that it's been a long long time since the world has had a bench clearing brawl. Sooner or later everybody will have nuclear weapons. World War 3 will be no Night at the Opera.
No offense to you younger guys or your kids but I'm hoping we can kick that can down the road for 30 or so years.
WSS
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What actually would ease the tension is if we can get the Lollipop Guild to quit blocking US energy production. The closer we get to energy independence the better. Of course China will still want oil so the Middle East will continue to be in same but for our part will have a better hand to play.
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WSS
Funny you brought that up, there are 3 ways to become energy independent 1. increase supply to meet demand 2. decrease demand to meet supply or 3. increase supply while decreasing demand to meet in the middle. It seems one side of the political spectrum wants to only increase the supply side claiming a waste of money to develop things like smart cars and other green alternatives. While the other side only wants to decrease the demand but not increasing the supply at the risk of the environment. But neither side seems to be ok with doing a little bit of both at the same time.
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Or finding viable alternative sources, I'm not talking about wind and solar so much as I am nuclear and natural gas.
But as to decreasing demand? I haven't heard anyone come out against common sense conservation.
But lest we take our eyes of the real reason don't forget the dollar is propped up by oil, not gold anymore.
WSS
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Or finding viable alternative sources, I'm not talking about wind and solar so much as I am nuclear and natural gas.
But as to decreasing demand? I haven't heard anyone come out against common sense conservation.
But lest we take our eyes of the real reason don't forget the dollar is propped up by oil, not gold anymore.
WSS
Or finding viable alternative sources, I'm not talking about wind and solar so much as I am nuclear and natural gas.
But as to decreasing demand? I haven't heard anyone come out against common sense conservation.
But lest we take our eyes of the real reason don't forget the dollar is propped up by oil, not gold anymore.
WSS
Kind of getting off topic, but you never heard anyone attacking president Obama for directing bailout money to green energy companies?
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Turned on the news this am and on ABC they were making Israel villians for fighting back after they get shelled daily for being Jews. Then I turn on FOX news and they are telling the real truth.
It's a liberal clusterfuck on the liberal media today. These guys from ABC could have worked for Stalin or Hitler and won some psychotic patriot awards from the National Socialist Party.
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I think I'll quote a Jewish friend of mine (Ha! so Raycess):
"Dear Israel,
Please ignore the international double standard placed on you and defend yourself and the people of your democracy as you need. And by that, I mean please put all those shit eating terrorists, who shoot rockets at your children, in the ground.
Yours,
- My friend's name."
Im ok with this tack.
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Legacy, I think that sums it up just fine.
WSS
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Or finding viable alternative sources, I'm not talking about wind and solar so much as I am nuclear and natural gas.
But as to decreasing demand? I haven't heard anyone come out against common sense conservation.
But lest we take our eyes of the real reason don't forget the dollar is propped up by oil, not gold anymore.
WSS
Kind of getting off topic, but you never heard anyone attacking president Obama for directing bailout money to green energy companies?
Kind of getting off topic, but you never heard anyone attacking president Obama for directing bailout money to green energy companies?
Bail out money? Not really sure about that but yes he has written checks to a few green energy entities.
I'd have to look back over the thread but I'm sure I specified common sense, or something like that, alternatives.
Solar panels and windmills? Sure they could probably have an effect, not quite the same effect as say natural gas nuclear plants coal US oil at cetera.
And windmills are operating right now, no reason we don't build more. How about we build them in right to work states instead of China?
What are you opposed to wasting money?
Or is it okay just because they slap the word green on their company bio?
WSS
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I know that there are many Iranians that don't like the regime, but are there enough of them? At this time, I would have to say no. Seems like the Arab uprisings have all sort of cooled down except for Syria.
I know that there are many Iranians that don't like the regime, but are there enough of them? At this time, I would have to say no. Seems like the Arab uprisings have all sort of cooled down except for Syria.
Tough to say. The protests in Iran got pretty real in '09. Unfortunately, the depressing (lack of) results from them may have hurt the cause, but ya never know.
And the commentariat's incredibly bad at predicting these things. After the Tunisian gov't fell, many pundits insisted that the same couldn't possibly happen in Egypt. A google search of "Egypt is not Tunisia" yields 175,000 results.
Guess we need a Nate Silver of political revolutions.
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I think I'll quote a Jewish friend of mine (Ha! so Raycess):
"Dear Israel,
Please ignore the international double standard placed on you and defend yourself and the people of your democracy as you need. And by that, I mean please put all those shit eating terrorists, who shoot rockets at your children, in the ground.
Yours,
- My friend's name."
Im ok with this tack.
I think I'll quote a Jewish friend of mine (Ha! so Raycess):
"Dear Israel,
Please ignore the international double standard placed on you and defend yourself and the people of your democracy as you need. And by that, I mean please put all those shit eating terrorists, who shoot rockets at your children, in the ground.
Yours,
- My friend's name."
Im ok with this tack.
lol, this message is a double standard. but hey, I guess israel gets a pass for bulldozing homes, running over protestors with said bulldozers, and denying the displaced palestinians water and food! Both sides are at fault, to think otherwise is just willful ignorance.
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I think I'll quote a Jewish friend of mine (Ha! so Raycess):
"Dear Israel,
Please ignore the international double standard placed on you and defend yourself and the people of your democracy as you need. And by that, I mean please put all those shit eating terrorists, who shoot rockets at your children, in the ground.
Yours,
- My friend's name."
Im ok with this tack.
lol, this message is a double standard. but hey, I guess israel gets a pass for bulldozing homes, running over protestors with said bulldozers, and denying the displaced palestinians water and food! Both sides are at fault, to think otherwise is just willful ignorance.
lol, this message is a double standard. but hey, I guess israel gets a pass for bulldozing homes, running over protestors with said bulldozers, and denying the displaced palestinians water and food! Both sides are at fault, to think otherwise is just willful ignorance.
Unfortunately there are consequences for invading and attacking Israel.
Losing territory is 1 of those consequences.
Had the United States prevailed in the War of 1812 we'd own Detroit.
Maybe it's just as well....
WSS
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I think I'll quote a Jewish friend of mine (Ha! so Raycess):
"Dear Israel,
Please ignore the international double standard placed on you and defend yourself and the people of your democracy as you need. And by that, I mean please put all those shit eating terrorists, who shoot rockets at your children, in the ground.
Yours,
- My friend's name."
Im ok with this tack.
lol, this message is a double standard. but hey, I guess israel gets a pass for bulldozing homes, running over protestors with said bulldozers, and denying the displaced palestinians water and food! Both sides are at fault, to think otherwise is just willful ignorance.
lol, this message is a double standard. but hey, I guess israel gets a pass for bulldozing homes, running over protestors with said bulldozers, and denying the displaced palestinians water and food! Both sides are at fault, to think otherwise is just willful ignorance.
So sorry, but no sympathy for scum bag Palestinians. They partied hard after 9/11 and are hardly above amoeba level in my book.
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