Difference Between Manning And A Our Weeds
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Weeds would have never thrown that first TD pass by Manning. Sometimes, you just have to make a throw and the let the WR's make a play. You don't get much tighter coverage than that. And that my friends is what we don't see happening with Weeds. And I believe it's because he's being told not to make mistakes.
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Weeds would have never thrown that first TD pass by Manning. Sometimes, you just have to make a throw and the let the WR's make a play. You don't get much tighter coverage than that. And that my friends is what we don't see happening with Weeds. And I believe it's because he's being told not to make mistakes.
Weeds would have never thrown that first TD pass by Manning. Sometimes, you just have to make a throw and the let the WR's make a play. You don't get much tighter coverage than that. And that my friends is what we don't see happening with Weeds. And I believe it's because he's being told not to make mistakes.
Decent first drive for the browns though. Ended in a FG, but Weeden looks good so far. False start penalties aren't helping either..
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Weeds would have never thrown that first TD pass by Manning. Sometimes, you just have to make a throw and the let the WR's make a play. You don't get much tighter coverage than that. And that my friends is what we don't see happening with Weeds. And I believe it's because he's being told not to make mistakes.
Weeds would have never thrown that first TD pass by Manning. Sometimes, you just have to make a throw and the let the WR's make a play. You don't get much tighter coverage than that. And that my friends is what we don't see happening with Weeds. And I believe it's because he's being told not to make mistakes.
Do you think Manning was playing this way his rookie year? Manning is smart and knows the throws he can make,obviously disregarding that interception at the end of the half..lol
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Weeden has missed a few throws today, but has played solid outside of that. I'd like to give him at least another year to prove his worth. Hate to see a first go to waste so quickly.
Weeden has missed a few throws today, but has played solid outside of that. I'd like to give him at least another year to prove his worth. Hate to see a first go to waste so quickly.
he should've threw that ball up field to Gordon for 6. Gordon was actually pointing towards the endzone. Weeden needs to be more composed
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Weeden has missed a few throws today, but has played solid outside of that. I'd like to give him at least another year to prove his worth. Hate to see a first go to waste so quickly.
he should've threw that ball up field to Gordon for 6. Gordon was actually pointing towards the endzone. Weeden needs to be more composed
he should've threw that ball up field to Gordon for 6. Gordon was actually pointing towards the endzone. Weeden needs to be more composed
Ya, that's probably going to be the worst play of the game. That was probably the last shot to actual make a game of it
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The thing that pisses me off about Weeden is some of the dumbass things he does that has nothing to do with ability.
Up by 3 points in the fourth qtr on his own 30 with 8 mins left, he rolls out of the pocket on a designed play, can't find anyone open so instead of throwing it out of bounds, he slides and takes a 4 yard loss "to keep the clock running".....
Last week on the last ditch effort drive on 4th and 3 on their 40, he rolls out, can't find a receiver and throws it out of bounds..... Wtf.... Throw it up field.... And hope the dumbass cb picks it off 20 yards downfield.... Give yourself a chance. He threw it out of bounds and the game was over.
These are just two examples.
This stuff doesn't have anything to do with being a rookie. A high school QB could figure this stuff out.
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The thing that pisses me off about Weeden is some of the dumbass things he does that has nothing to do with ability.
Up by 3 points in the fourth qtr on his own 30 with 8 mins left, he rolls out of the pocket on a designed play, can't find anyone open so instead of throwing it out of bounds, he slides and takes a 4 yard loss "to keep the clock running".....
Last week on the last ditch effort drive on 4th and 3 on their 40, he rolls out, can't find a receiver and throws it out of bounds..... Wtf.... Throw it up field.... And hope the dumbass cb picks it off 20 yards downfield.... Give yourself a chance. He threw it out of bounds and the game was over.
These are just two examples.
This stuff doesn't have anything to do with being a rookie. A high school QB could figure this stuff out.
The thing that pisses me off about Weeden is some of the dumbass things he does that has nothing to do with ability.
Up by 3 points in the fourth qtr on his own 30 with 8 mins left, he rolls out of the pocket on a designed play, can't find anyone open so instead of throwing it out of bounds, he slides and takes a 4 yard loss "to keep the clock running".....
Last week on the last ditch effort drive on 4th and 3 on their 40, he rolls out, can't find a receiver and throws it out of bounds..... Wtf.... Throw it up field.... And hope the dumbass cb picks it off 20 yards downfield.... Give yourself a chance. He threw it out of bounds and the game was over.
These are just two examples.
This stuff doesn't have anything to do with being a rookie. A high school QB could figure this stuff out.
Your kidding right? Posts like these are bad, bad efforts.
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The thing that pisses me off about Weeden is some of the dumbass things he does that has nothing to do with ability.
Up by 3 points in the fourth qtr on his own 30 with 8 mins left, he rolls out of the pocket on a designed play, can't find anyone open so instead of throwing it out of bounds, he slides and takes a 4 yard loss "to keep the clock running".....
Last week on the last ditch effort drive on 4th and 3 on their 40, he rolls out, can't find a receiver and throws it out of bounds..... Wtf.... Throw it up field.... And hope the dumbass cb picks it off 20 yards downfield.... Give yourself a chance. He threw it out of bounds and the game was over.
These are just two examples.
This stuff doesn't have anything to do with being a rookie. A high school QB could figure this stuff out.
Your kidding right? Posts like these are bad, bad efforts.
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manning=smart
weeden=dumb as a bag of hair lit on fire from some passing car, once left on the side of the road getting blown back and forth from the big rigs flying by then getting pissed on by desert rats and mice and getting taken by meer kats to nest in.
awesome.
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The thing that pisses me off about Weeden is some of the dumbass things he does that has nothing to do with ability.
Up by 3 points in the fourth qtr on his own 30 with 8 mins left, he rolls out of the pocket on a designed play, can't find anyone open so instead of throwing it out of bounds, he slides and takes a 4 yard loss "to keep the clock running".....
Last week on the last ditch effort drive on 4th and 3 on their 40, he rolls out, can't find a receiver and throws it out of bounds..... Wtf.... Throw it up field.... And hope the dumbass cb picks it off 20 yards downfield.... Give yourself a chance. He threw it out of bounds and the game was over.
These are just two examples.
This stuff doesn't have anything to do with being a rookie. A high school QB could figure this stuff out.
Your kidding right? Posts like these are bad, bad efforts.
Your kidding right? Posts like these are bad, bad efforts.
Ok guru, pick it apart. Tell me how a 30 year old Qb should be excused from these mental mistakes. Or more importantly, how do you fix it in his head?
And all these "bad bad efforts" are in basically regular season meaningless games. Throw the guy in a pressure cooker playoff game and what's he going to do? Piss down his leg?
On second thought, your user name is "Hempman" no need for a response to your initial statement, I understand it completely now.
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Your kidding right? Posts like these are bad, bad efforts.
Ok guru, pick it apart. Tell me how a 30 year old Qb should be excused from these mental mistakes. Or more importantly, how do you fix it in his head?
And all these "bad bad efforts" are in basically regular season meaningless games. Throw the guy in a pressure cooker playoff game and what's he going to do? Piss down his leg?
On second thought, your user name is "Hempman" no need for a response to your initial statement, I understand it completely now.
Ok guru, pick it apart. Tell me how a 30 year old Qb should be excused from these mental mistakes. Or more importantly, how do you fix it in his head?
And all these "bad bad efforts" are in basically regular season meaningless games. Throw the guy in a pressure cooker playoff game and what's he going to do? Piss down his leg?
yeah man. i'm not dissing weeds at all. hell he might be the best option going forward for the new franchise and their evaluation next year.
BUT
there is a thing that is easily evaluated since game one: how your team leader reaacts under pressure. and for how big and how strong an arm he has the dood looks like he is shittin skittles when someone breaks through the line. look at rodgers, brady, even griffin and their composure under duress..
weeds gotta learn that.
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jimmy haslam has his hands full. i think he is the guy that can do it, BUT can I see it before i die (been asking that for 20+ years now..)?
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manning=smart
weeden=dumb as a bag of hair lit on fire from some passing car, once left on the side of the road getting blown back and forth from the big rigs flying by then getting pissed on by desert rats and mice and getting taken by meer kats to nest in.
awesome.
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What mental mistakes? This is the design, what they are trained to do. Peyton Manning would never stand for this out of a coach and would never play for Shurmur.
What mental mistakes? This is the design, what they are trained to do. Peyton Manning would never stand for this out of a coach and would never play for Shurmur.
what mental mistakes? Did you even read the post I wrote that you said "was a bad effort"?
Throwing the ball out of bounds on a 4 and 3 with the game depending on getting the first down is a mental error that puts the nail in the coffin for the game.
Taking a knee behind the line of scrimmage on 1st and 10 on your own thirty to take a 6 yard loss "to keep the clock running" with 8 mins in the game and only a 3 point lead is a huge mental error.
Rewind some more to an early game, last play of the game he throws the ball so high out of the back of the endzone none of his big recievers (Cameron who is a monster and Greg Little who isnt small) have ZERO chance to make even an attempt to make a play to win the game. Huge mental error.
This isn't things that can be fixed by a coach. This is stuff that has to be going through his head.
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What mental mistakes? This is the design, what they are trained to do. Peyton Manning would never stand for this out of a coach and would never play for Shurmur.
what mental mistakes? Did you even read the post I wrote that you said "was a bad effort"?
Throwing the ball out of bounds on a 4 and 3 with the game depending on getting the first down is a mental error that puts the nail in the coffin for the game.
Taking a knee behind the line of scrimmage on 1st and 10 on your own thirty to take a 6 yard loss "to keep the clock running" with 8 mins in the game and only a 3 point lead is a huge mental error.
Rewind some more to an early game, last play of the game he throws the ball so high out of the back of the endzone none of his big recievers (Cameron who is a monster and Greg Little who isnt small) have ZERO chance to make even an attempt to make a play to win the game. Huge mental error.
This isn't things that can be fixed by a coach. This is stuff that has to be going through his head.
what mental mistakes? Did you even read the post I wrote that you said "was a bad effort"?
Throwing the ball out of bounds on a 4 and 3 with the game depending on getting the first down is a mental error that puts the nail in the coffin for the game.
Taking a knee behind the line of scrimmage on 1st and 10 on your own thirty to take a 6 yard loss "to keep the clock running" with 8 mins in the game and only a 3 point lead is a huge mental error.
Rewind some more to an early game, last play of the game he throws the ball so high out of the back of the endzone none of his big recievers (Cameron who is a monster and Greg Little who isnt small) have ZERO chance to make even an attempt to make a play to win the game. Huge mental error.
This isn't things that can be fixed by a coach. This is stuff that has to be going through his head.
and you don't think these things won't used as experience moving forward? C'mon. Weeden and this offense are only going to improve by next year. And those other successful rookies such as RG3, Luck, and Wilson are all capable to be more successful due to their natural mobility/athletic abilities to get them out of trouble. Of course Weeden should have made better decisions and passes but you have to take everything into consideration. He has a hell of an arm and another Guard and TE will do wonders.
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What mental mistakes? This is the design, what they are trained to do. Peyton Manning would never stand for this out of a coach and would never play for Shurmur.
what mental mistakes? Did you even read the post I wrote that you said "was a bad effort"?
Throwing the ball out of bounds on a 4 and 3 with the game depending on getting the first down is a mental error that puts the nail in the coffin for the game.
Taking a knee behind the line of scrimmage on 1st and 10 on your own thirty to take a 6 yard loss "to keep the clock running" with 8 mins in the game and only a 3 point lead is a huge mental error.
Rewind some more to an early game, last play of the game he throws the ball so high out of the back of the endzone none of his big recievers (Cameron who is a monster and Greg Little who isnt small) have ZERO chance to make even an attempt to make a play to win the game. Huge mental error.
This isn't things that can be fixed by a coach. This is stuff that has to be going through his head.
what mental mistakes? Did you even read the post I wrote that you said "was a bad effort"?
Throwing the ball out of bounds on a 4 and 3 with the game depending on getting the first down is a mental error that puts the nail in the coffin for the game.
Taking a knee behind the line of scrimmage on 1st and 10 on your own thirty to take a 6 yard loss "to keep the clock running" with 8 mins in the game and only a 3 point lead is a huge mental error.
Rewind some more to an early game, last play of the game he throws the ball so high out of the back of the endzone none of his big recievers (Cameron who is a monster and Greg Little who isnt small) have ZERO chance to make even an attempt to make a play to win the game. Huge mental error.
This isn't things that can be fixed by a coach. This is stuff that has to be going through his head.
Taking the dive while rolling out was still the right play, as that eats up another 30 seconds. If it was 3rd and 10 it would be a different story.
As for the Baltimore game, you do realize that quarterbacks are taught to sail the ball on those throws right? I'll post here what I posted then.
Like I said before, the pass to Greg Little wasn't necessarily a bad pass. It was intended to be high. On plays like that you are almost always looking to "throw the ball out of the endzone". This isn't a 60 yard floater that he's trying to drop into the hands of a flanker sprinting out a 9 route. If that were the case then yes, you'd want to land the ball in the endzone. But this is a 25 yard strike against 7 men in coverage.
Weeden had trips left with Gordon out wide, Norwood in tight, and Little in the middle. Gordon and Little were lined up off the line, making it easier to beat the press. I can't really tell from the angle I have but it looks like Webb is locked in on man coverage with Little, with everyone else playing loose. It's a cover two shell, with Reed and Pollard taking the back of the endzone and Webb manned up against their primary read.
The only place for Weeden to throw it is high. Webb is listed at 5'10 with a 36 1/2 inch vertical leap and Reed at 5'11 with a 32 1/2 vertical. Little is listed at 6'3 with a 40 1/2 inch vertical leap. Little's peak is at 114 inches whereas Webbs is at 106 (not even factoring in reach). That's why the pass is intended to be high.
Unfortunately, Weeden's jersey gets yanked, pulling his back shoulder down and raising his front shoulder. This changes the trajectory of the pass. It's also worthy to notice that Weeden had the same thing happen on an intentional grounding earlier in the game, and he may have put some extra into his pass because of that past experience.
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