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Thank You Shurmer And Heckert

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  • W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
    #3

    i dont think you can really say heckert whiffed bad on last years draft he got richardson who will be a flat out stud yes he fucked up the 2nd 1st round pick i will agree to that but he got the best right tackle in the draft he had an amazing rookie year john huges and billy winn both had pretty good years on the d line travis Benjamin shows that he has a lot of speed and with the right play calling he will be a nice deep threat he also went and got gordon who is our number 1 now and james Micheal johsnon didnt do to bad in the time he played

  • W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
    #4

    and im not saying weeden is bad either im saying that he was a huge reach in the first round

  • and im not saying weeden is bad either im saying that he was a huge reach in the first round

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
    #5

    @why-cant-we-win said:

    and im not saying weeden is bad either im saying that he was a huge reach in the first round

    It was a huge reach to take a QB that doesn't fit the 30 year old westcoast offense

  • W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
    #6

    i agree if he was there in the 2nd late i wouldnt have minded it but to reach for him at 22 when we have so many other needs that could have been filled is why i was totally against the pick

  • H Horn of Lake Erie wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Well there was a lot of speculation that teams were looking at Weeden before our next pick in round two, so to say that we could have gotten him at a later point is a statement that doesn't even agree with general speculation. Weeden will be aight, just need to put him in an offense where he can utilize his main asset, aka his deep ball.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Good riddance. Bottom line is they made a bad team barely better. Good to clean Holmgren's house and start fresh. Hopefully this time with people who do the job and stick around for 5-10 years.

  • KosarfanK Kosarfan wrote on last edited by
    #9

    Shurmur never seemed to get the urgency of what was going on ... ever. Never really seemed to take a chance. Definitely will not miss the 3rd and longs and a short screen or draw play, looking for a ground gain of 10 - 15 yards. I will say a time or two he seemed to step out of the mold he'd created, but then again always seemed to drop back into that conservative play calling, especially when taking a chance meant so much. I will never understand, early or midway through the season, when this team seemed out of any contention, the play calling never got aggressive.

  • i dont think you can really say heckert whiffed bad on last years draft he got richardson who will be a flat out stud yes he fucked up the 2nd 1st round pick i will agree to that but he got the best right tackle in the draft he had an amazing rookie year john huges and billy winn both had pretty good years on the d line travis Benjamin shows that he has a lot of speed and with the right play calling he will be a nice deep threat he also went and got gordon who is our number 1 now and james Micheal johsnon didnt do to bad in the time he played

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    @why-cant-we-win said:

    i dont think you can really say heckert whiffed bad on last years draft he got richardson who will be a flat out stud yes he fucked up the 2nd 1st round pick i will agree to that but he got the best right tackle in the draft he had an amazing rookie year john huges and billy winn both had pretty good years on the d line travis Benjamin shows that he has a lot of speed and with the right play calling he will be a nice deep threat he also went and got gordon who is our number 1 now and james Micheal johsnon didnt do to bad in the time he played

    you can put the drafting of both QBs squarely on holmgren. in his mind he could take a wannabee and turn them into the next brett favre. he was lucky in his coaching tenure BUT was never someone i would let have control over an organization. thanks randy lerner for falling for his hype and setting us back another 5 years.

    heckert did good in certain areas. hopefully these WRs will blossom into true #1s and 2s. he had big time playmakers at DT CB and DE but never went for the monster #1. TR i'm not sure was worth a #3 overall, but that's just me because no RB IMO is worth a pick that high, unless he's a proven APetersen. i guess he could have done better considering all the picks we had.

    it sure won't be as easy for the next guy coming considering what we need and how many picks we have.

    i gave up on shurmur 4 games ago. his QB cost us games and his job whether it was due to lack of ingenuity in using weeden i don't know but it's sorta like hitching your wagon to 'your' guy. live and die with that mofo.

  • GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
    #11

    Shurmur really had the cards stacked against him from the get go, even so he does not possess the natural instincts that make a man a born leader and a great head coach, honestly i question rather he is even an adequate OC..

    I cant see haslam doing any better than heckert with the list of available idiots i have seen, however if against all odds and by some strange coincidence haslam does get "the right guy" @ HC it will become more important that the personnel director be more rehearsed at being a catering service than being an all out in charge GM..

    I love the coach first approach but there are not many dudes out there that have "the full tool set" and i wish haslam and banner the best in trying to grab this mythical and illusive being..

  • Shurmur never seemed to get the urgency of what was going on ... ever. Never really seemed to take a chance. Definitely will not miss the 3rd and longs and a short screen or draw play, looking for a ground gain of 10 - 15 yards. I will say a time or two he seemed to step out of the mold he'd created, but then again always seemed to drop back into that conservative play calling, especially when taking a chance meant so much. I will never understand, early or midway through the season, when this team seemed out of any contention, the play calling never got aggressive.

    ErnieCamacho84E ErnieCamacho84 wrote on last edited by
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    @kosarfan said:

    Shurmur never seemed to get the urgency of what was going on ... ever. Never really seemed to take a chance. Definitely will not miss the 3rd and longs and a short screen or draw play, looking for a ground gain of 10 - 15 yards. I will say a time or two he seemed to step out of the mold he'd created, but then again always seemed to drop back into that conservative play calling, especially when taking a chance meant so much. I will never understand, early or midway through the season, when this team seemed out of any contention, the play calling never got aggressive.

    The guy calls plays like the game has three halves.