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  • FISH DUCK F
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    F FISH DUCK wrote on last edited by
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    This is a site that has studied Chip Kelly the most of anyone and breaks it down for the typical fan. Thoughts?

    http://fishduck.com/2013/01/what-every-nfl-fan-should-know-about-chip-kelly/

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      This is a site that has studied Chip Kelly the most of anyone and breaks it down for the typical fan. Thoughts?

      http://fishduck.com/2013/01/what-every-nfl-fan-should-know-about-chip-kelly/

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      @fish-duck said:

      This is a site that has studied Chip Kelly the most of anyone and breaks it down for the typical fan. Thoughts?

      http://fishduck.com/...out-chip-kelly/

      One thing about getting a coach from "Oregon" would be the weird people who would follow him here (Lumburgh).

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        @fish-duck said:

        This is a site that has studied Chip Kelly the most of anyone and breaks it down for the typical fan. Thoughts?

        http://fishduck.com/...out-chip-kelly/

        One thing about getting a coach from "Oregon" would be the weird people who would follow him here (Lumburgh).

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        @diehardbrownsfan said:

        One thing about getting a coach from "Oregon" would be the weird people who would follow him here (Lumburgh).

        he was an Oregon State fan so he would hate Chip Kelley.

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          BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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          From reviewing the site and scanning somewhat briefly it's about creating space and utilizing the correct space whilst making a quick decision as to which space to utilize, throw it or run it.

          For some of you, this is just like a lot of other sports, especially... cough cough.. Soccer. Soccer is all about creating space and playing into space. Football, however it is slightly different concept, but still creating space and spreading the Defense. Even Hockey and Basketball is about creating spaces and playing the ball/puck into those spaces and at times, running into open spaces w/o ball or puck, which creates other spaces to move into.

          I for one, would love to see an exciting offense in Cleveland. I think Weeden could run it, and to have some of the weapons developing at WR and then having Trent being able to run into some of these "spaces" could be a lot of fun to watch.

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            From reviewing the site and scanning somewhat briefly it's about creating space and utilizing the correct space whilst making a quick decision as to which space to utilize, throw it or run it.

            For some of you, this is just like a lot of other sports, especially... cough cough.. Soccer. Soccer is all about creating space and playing into space. Football, however it is slightly different concept, but still creating space and spreading the Defense. Even Hockey and Basketball is about creating spaces and playing the ball/puck into those spaces and at times, running into open spaces w/o ball or puck, which creates other spaces to move into.

            I for one, would love to see an exciting offense in Cleveland. I think Weeden could run it, and to have some of the weapons developing at WR and then having Trent being able to run into some of these "spaces" could be a lot of fun to watch.

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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            @brownskidd said:

            I think Weeden could run it, and to have some of the weapons developing at WR and then having Trent being able to run into some of these "spaces" could be a lot of fun to watch.

            really? then he'd have to grow a brain between now and then.

            listen i don't watch oregon, i think their offense is gimmicky, i think west coast teams are over-rated and when did oregon ever have a bruising back under chip kelly? aren't they scat backs that run a 3.0 40? lol.

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              From reviewing the site and scanning somewhat briefly it's about creating space and utilizing the correct space whilst making a quick decision as to which space to utilize, throw it or run it.

              For some of you, this is just like a lot of other sports, especially... cough cough.. Soccer. Soccer is all about creating space and playing into space. Football, however it is slightly different concept, but still creating space and spreading the Defense. Even Hockey and Basketball is about creating spaces and playing the ball/puck into those spaces and at times, running into open spaces w/o ball or puck, which creates other spaces to move into.

              I for one, would love to see an exciting offense in Cleveland. I think Weeden could run it, and to have some of the weapons developing at WR and then having Trent being able to run into some of these "spaces" could be a lot of fun to watch.

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              BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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              @brownskidd said:

              I think Weeden could run it

              Apparently you have more faith in Brandon Weeden running Kelly's offense than....Brandon Weeden does.

              In case none of you heard Weeden was asked about Kelly's offense and said he could not run it.

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                @brownskidd said:

                I think Weeden could run it

                Apparently you have more faith in Brandon Weeden running Kelly's offense than....Brandon Weeden does.

                In case none of you heard Weeden was asked about Kelly's offense and said he could not run it.

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                USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                @badnewsbrowns said:

                Apparently you have more faith in Brandon Weeden running Kelly's offense than....Brandon Weeden does.

                In case none of you heard Weeden was asked about Kelly's offense and said he could not run it.

                Sources or its not true. He'd have to be a complete complete moron to say something like that.

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                  GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by
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                  If haslam/banner does somehow convince chip kelly to come to cleveland i would be surprised but then again i think maybe i still have slo lerner syndrome..

                  Chip kelly cant run his speed offense in the nfl especially with the slow motion browns but he would modify parts of it to match the player strengths we have, chip is an innovator and does not have to live or die by a gimmick offense and the fact that haslam is going after him tells me a lot about jimmy haslam..

                  I still have my doubts that haslam and banner can close a deal with kelly but nevertheless i love to see them trying to bring in a real game changer..

                  I like most of the guys they seem to want to tap except for Whisenhunt..

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                    BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by BadNewsBrowns
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                    @usf - Look it up if you don't believe me.

                    @gips I don't think he could mirror his Oregon offense and be successful. He'd have to run more of a pro offense with a little or a lot of the spread sprinkled in. And running the option is not going to happen with Weeden, and it's more than likely going to get a few QBs injured that can.

                    Problem is, we don't know if Kelly can be successful doing anything other than spread option offense. We don't know how good he is at a pro level and we don't know if his niche is a fad or not.

                    I guess he had success at New Hampshire and Columbia but does that even count?

                    Very risky move with this guy it's boom or bust.

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                      As noted by Tony Grossi on Sulia.com, Weeden was up front about the potential for Kelly to come to Cleveland, saying "I can't run the zone read." The Browns invested a first round pick in Weeden in the 2012 NFL Draft, but he wasn't their top selection and moving on from him so soon wouldn't be unheard of.

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                        @badnewsbrowns said:

                        Apparently you have more faith in Brandon Weeden running Kelly's offense than....Brandon Weeden does.

                        In case none of you heard Weeden was asked about Kelly's offense and said he could not run it.

                        Sources or its not true. He'd have to be a complete complete moron to say something like that.

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                        RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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                        @usfbrown said:

                        Sources or its not true. He'd have to be a complete complete moron to say something like that.

                        http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/12/cleveland_browns_quarterback_b_5.html

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                          BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                          Btw, I'm not necessarily opposed to Kelly either, just a little concerned.

                          I don't think there is a "must have" coach out there and sure as shit no guarantees.

                          If they do hire Kelly I think it'll be exciting to see how it all plays out.

                          At this point I don't really give a shit who the coach is just as long as we win.

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                            So we're banking on the gamble that the NFL defenses can't figure out a college team gimmick?

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                              The problem with Kelly's offense is that even in college, Oregon loses every time they face a sound defense that can play their base personnel and not get out-quicked. His offense is a gimmick because it requires a great athletic mismatch to gain yards. Ohio State shut them down hard in the Rose Bowl, because you're not going to be more athletic than an OSU defense.

                              Unfortunately, every single NFL defense is exactly as quick as the Browns offense.. those mismatches simply aren't available in the NFL.

                              Whisenhunt is a far better choice than Chip Kelly.

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                                BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                                So far the Browns have interviewed Whisenhunt,Horton,Bill O'Brien and are scheduled to interview Kelly and Marrone from Syracuse.

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                                  I don't love any of the people the Browns have interviewed. I wish we would have looked last year and landed somebody like Jeff Fisher. I would love to have somebody who has proven they can coach in the NFL and who isn't 70 years old. I still like McDaniels but it doesn't look like we do. As for Weeden running that offense I don't see it happening but there might be two QB's available to run it. One is Thad (Chad) Lewis(yep I typed it). Makes decisions faster it appears and can move better. And the other option I like less but it is Michael Vick. This offense in the NFL will be similar to what he has run offer the years once it gets modified. I think it we get Kelly we will be looking for Weedens replacement. Hope I am wrong.

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                                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                                    Chip Kelly ran a spread offense and aired it out a ton at New Hampshire or wherever he was before Oregon. If Brandon Weeden is under center, we're not running an Oregon style offense. Kelly will build the team around the players instead of Holmgren and Shurmur trying to take all the square pegs and putting them in a round hole we called the WCO.

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                                      @vaportrail said:

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                                      Chip Kelly ran a spread offense and aired it out a ton at New Hampshire or wherever he was before Oregon. If Brandon Weeden is under center, we're not running an Oregon style offense. Kelly will build the team around the players instead of Holmgren and Shurmur trying to take all the square pegs and putting them in a round hole we called the WCO.

                                      I think so too. He has a lot more football smarts than Shumer sure did. He would be my first choice. My 2nd would be Lovie Smith. The rest I could careless about. Stay away from Whistenhut and Marrone IMO.

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                                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                        his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

                                        we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

                                        the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

                                        sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

                                        watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          I know a guy we can draft with speed...

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