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  • miktoxic miktoxicM
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    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

    we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

    the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

    sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

    watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      I know a guy we can draft with speed...

      Chip + QB with most rushing yards in NCAA history 🙂

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      • miktoxicM miktoxic

        his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

        we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

        the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

        sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

        watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

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        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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        @miktoxic said:

        his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

        we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

        the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

        sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

        watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

        Did you read anything I just said? His success is based on his ability to play to his team's strengths. He doesn't have a one size fits all gameplan. The guy's a tailor, and if he comes to Cleveland, I'd expect our offense to switch to a shotgun style spread, a la Oklahoma State.

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          @miktoxic said:

          his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

          we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

          the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

          sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

          watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

          Did you read anything I just said? His success is based on his ability to play to his team's strengths. He doesn't have a one size fits all gameplan. The guy's a tailor, and if he comes to Cleveland, I'd expect our offense to switch to a shotgun style spread, a la Oklahoma State.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          @vaportrail said:

          Did you read anything I just said? His success is based on his ability to play to his team's strengths. He doesn't have a one size fits all gameplan. The guy's an NFL tailor, and if he comes to Cleveland, I'd expect our offense to switch to a shotgun style spread, a la Oklahoma State.

          That's how I use Cleveland in Madden so I can tell you it works.

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            @miktoxic said:

            his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

            we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

            the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

            sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

            watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

            Did you read anything I just said? His success is based on his ability to play to his team's strengths. He doesn't have a one size fits all gameplan. The guy's a tailor, and if he comes to Cleveland, I'd expect our offense to switch to a shotgun style spread, a la Oklahoma State.

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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            @vaportrail said:

            Did you read anything I just said?

            no.

            i wasn't responding to any one in particular.

            the dude is a one-trick pony.

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              XanthrosX Xanthros wrote on last edited by
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              Right...here it goes...no coach is good enough...like Pat was a GREAT coach or something, are you serious...No matter who they hire, if everyone here expects a quick turnaround, it'll have to be a coach like Kelly that actually coaches to the teams strengths, not the other way around...

              Who let the DAWGS out??
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                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                i didn't say no coach was good enough. did i? i'm just FEARFUL that haslam and banner will expect c. kelly to do in 2 years what he has done with oregon. get it fuck faces?

                where in his coaching career has he just been handed a scrub team and make it work? show me pleez!

                his team is based on SPEED. get it knumbskulls? they've got 10 players like t. benjamin that are better than he is. what is he gonna smuggle them into cleveland if he's hired here and they just automatically show up on the roster? no this ain't no college recruiting class of 2013.

                use your fucking heads.

                he hasn't proven anything on the NFL level. wouldn't it be great if we hire him and he's a dud? the chances of that happening are greater than him having success.

                all you muth fers were singing the praises of holmgren when he got here. well not me.

                i want a coach that can run laps with the team, not run to the nearest dunkin donuts. hell haslam is in better shape than 'chocolate' chip 'cookie' kelly.

                give me a tough nosed ball-breaker like wisenhunt with chip kelly as our OC and lovie smith as our DC and then you can talk to me.

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                  i didn't say no coach was good enough. did i? i'm just FEARFUL that haslam and banner will expect c. kelly to do in 2 years what he has done with oregon. get it fuck faces?

                  where in his coaching career has he just been handed a scrub team and make it work? show me pleez!

                  his team is based on SPEED. get it knumbskulls? they've got 10 players like t. benjamin that are better than he is. what is he gonna smuggle them into cleveland if he's hired here and they just automatically show up on the roster? no this ain't no college recruiting class of 2013.

                  use your fucking heads.

                  he hasn't proven anything on the NFL level. wouldn't it be great if we hire him and he's a dud? the chances of that happening are greater than him having success.

                  all you muth fers were singing the praises of holmgren when he got here. well not me.

                  i want a coach that can run laps with the team, not run to the nearest dunkin donuts. hell haslam is in better shape than 'chocolate' chip 'cookie' kelly.

                  give me a tough nosed ball-breaker like wisenhunt with chip kelly as our OC and lovie smith as our DC and then you can talk to me.

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                  nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                  @miktoxic said:

                  i didn't say no coach was good enough. did i? i'm just FEARFUL that haslam and banner will expect c. kelly to do in 2 years what he has done with oregon. get it fuck faces?

                  where in his coaching career has he just been handed a scrub team and make it work? show me pleez!

                  his team is based on SPEED. get it knumbskulls? they've got 10 players like t. benjamin that are better than he is. what is he gonna smuggle them into cleveland if he's hired here and they just automatically show up on the roster? no this ain't no college recruiting class of 2013.

                  use your fucking heads.

                  he hasn't proven anything on the NFL level. wouldn't it be great if we hire him and he's a dud? the chances of that happening are greater than him having success.

                  all you muth fers were singing the praises of holmgren when he got here. well not me.

                  i want a coach that can run laps with the team, not run to the nearest dunkin donuts. hell haslam is in better shape than 'chocolate' chip 'cookie' kelly.

                  give me a tough nosed ball-breaker like wisenhunt with chip kelly as our OC and lovie smith as our DC and then you can talk to me.

                  Whisenhunt is a douche...no thanks.

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                    This is a site that has studied Chip Kelly the most of anyone and breaks it down for the typical fan. Thoughts?

                    http://fishduck.com/2013/01/what-every-nfl-fan-should-know-about-chip-kelly/

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                    @fish-duck said:

                    This is a site that has studied Chip Kelly the most of anyone and breaks it down for the typical fan. Thoughts?

                    http://fishduck.com/2013/01/what-every-nfl-fan-should-know-about-chip-kelly/

                    I watched the video on the inside zone read while watching the game tonight and it really helped me appreciate more of what was happening on the field. His assessment of the announcers who typically try to analyze Oregon's offense (Inaccurately) amused me. Having been unable to play football myself because of the x chromosome, size, and total lack of athletic skill, I've always felt at a disadvantage watching the games. I felt pretty smug the year I learned to recognize a prevent defense and could sneer at the commentator who incorrectly identified said defense during a game. I always enjoy learning more about the game and enjoyed Fishduck's offering very much. I'm not sure what that tells me about Chip Kelly as an NFL coaching candidate, but it sure was fun.

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                      his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

                      we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

                      the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

                      sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

                      watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

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                      K kshutchins wrote on last edited by
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                      @miktoxic said:

                      his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

                      we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

                      the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

                      sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

                      watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

                      Kelly's speed offense may be based on the speed of players but it is also based on the quickness with which plays are called using less time in the huddle and one-word play calls rather than the complex codes of the WCO. This is the aspect of Kelly's style that Belichick has been adapting for his own use (as described in the Boston Globe article recently).

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                        i didn't say no coach was good enough. did i? i'm just FEARFUL that haslam and banner will expect c. kelly to do in 2 years what he has done with oregon. get it fuck faces?

                        where in his coaching career has he just been handed a scrub team and make it work? show me pleez!

                        his team is based on SPEED. get it knumbskulls? they've got 10 players like t. benjamin that are better than he is. what is he gonna smuggle them into cleveland if he's hired here and they just automatically show up on the roster? no this ain't no college recruiting class of 2013.

                        use your fucking heads.

                        he hasn't proven anything on the NFL level. wouldn't it be great if we hire him and he's a dud? the chances of that happening are greater than him having success.

                        all you muth fers were singing the praises of holmgren when he got here. well not me.

                        i want a coach that can run laps with the team, not run to the nearest dunkin donuts. hell haslam is in better shape than 'chocolate' chip 'cookie' kelly.

                        give me a tough nosed ball-breaker like wisenhunt with chip kelly as our OC and lovie smith as our DC and then you can talk to me.

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                        @miktoxic said:

                        i didn't say no coach was good enough. did i? i'm just FEARFUL that haslam and banner will expect c. kelly to do in 2 years what he has done with oregon. get it fuck faces?

                        where in his coaching career has he just been handed a scrub team and make it work? show me pleez!

                        his team is based on SPEED. get it knumbskulls? they've got 10 players like t. benjamin that are better than he is. what is he gonna smuggle them into cleveland if he's hired here and they just automatically show up on the roster? no this ain't no college recruiting class of 2013.

                        use your fucking heads.

                        he hasn't proven anything on the NFL level. wouldn't it be great if we hire him and he's a dud? the chances of that happening are greater than him having success.

                        all you muth fers were singing the praises of holmgren when he got here. well not me.

                        i want a coach that can run laps with the team, not run to the nearest dunkin donuts. hell haslam is in better shape than 'chocolate' chip 'cookie' kelly.

                        give me a tough nosed ball-breaker like wisenhunt with chip kelly as our OC and lovie smith as our DC and then you can talk to me.

                        Little-4.5

                        Benjamin-4.3

                        Gordon-4.5

                        Richardson-4.4

                        From Oregon

                        Thomas- low listed at 4.2(no) high at 4.4 (more likely)

                        Barner-Low again listed at 4.2 High listed at 4.5

                        Huff- 4.3 low 4.5 high

                        Keep in mind those Oregon times are hand times and inflated, the ones from Browns are from the combine or in Gordons case his pro day,

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          Wait wait wait....

                          Someone doesn't have an x chromosome?

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                            Wait wait wait....

                            Someone doesn't have an x chromosome?

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            Wait wait wait....

                            Someone doesn't have an x chromosome?

                            I say tits or GTFO.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              Oh Nvm I thought someone said they DIDN'T have an X chromosome

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @miktoxic said:

                                his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

                                we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

                                the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

                                sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

                                watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

                                Kelly's speed offense may be based on the speed of players but it is also based on the quickness with which plays are called using less time in the huddle and one-word play calls rather than the complex codes of the WCO. This is the aspect of Kelly's style that Belichick has been adapting for his own use (as described in the Boston Globe article recently).

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                                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                                @kshutchins said:

                                Kelly's speed offense may be based on the speed of players but it is also based on the quickness with which plays are called using less time in the huddle and one-word play calls rather than the complex codes of the WCO. This is the aspect of Kelly's style that Belichick has been adapting for his own use (as described in the Boston Globe article recently).

                                hey, i'm all for the hurry-up and no huddle sequences in the nfl. but you better have a deep roster at RB and WR cuz who's running down the field every play full speed?

                                sure it makes the defense tired but unless the offensive skill guys are smoking meth on the sidelines they're getting tired too. depth at either of those positions the browns don't have.

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Wait wait wait....

                                  Someone doesn't have an x chromosome?

                                  I say tits or GTFO.

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                                  VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                                  @cielo said:

                                  I say tits or GTFO.

                                  That's for someone who doesn't have a y chromosome, numbnuts.

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                                    @miktoxic said:

                                    his success is based on speed. who on the browns has speed?

                                    we're going to bring in a guy and ask him to change his whole concept?

                                    the only reason haslam and banner have to be enamored with the guy is his avg, margin of victory.

                                    sure i'd give him a look and then keep on looking.

                                    watch thegame tonite the only thing oregon has is speed. speed on offense and defense. like i said in many other threads it'd take 6 years of drafting his type of speed players and by that time we'd be in shambles.

                                    Did you read anything I just said? His success is based on his ability to play to his team's strengths. He doesn't have a one size fits all gameplan. The guy's a tailor, and if he comes to Cleveland, I'd expect our offense to switch to a shotgun style spread, a la Oklahoma State.

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                                    @vaportrail said:

                                    Did you read anything I just said? His success is based on his ability to play to his team's strengths. He doesn't have a one size fits all gameplan. The guy's a tailor, and if he comes to Cleveland, I'd expect our offense to switch to a shotgun style spread, a la Oklahoma State.

                                    Exactly. In one vid i saw he said if he had the players to play the power I, that's what he'd do.

                                    If he comes here, I also expect a uptempo, shotgun based O. You don't have to run a spread option to run a spread O.

                                    I really expect Weeden to improve if Kelly is his coach. Or any coach who plays to his strength, and being a under center QB isn't a strength.

                                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                      BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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                                      I don't see a coach that is stuck to one style in Kelly, at least not yet. What I have seen is a guy that is able to evolve and adapt to win. He might actually be the Anti-Shurmur who seemed to be so stuck in forcing the WCO down the throats of a very young team, who, come out of college with no familiarity with an NFL offense. If Kelly says yes to this team, this could be very interesting off season. I for one will sit back and watch and see what happens. Let's not crucify this guy before he has even drafted one player or called one play.

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                                        He has stated this point over and over again, people will only here what they want to here.

                                        If everyone hates the Chip Kelly pick then i say we hire him, fans are never right.

                                        Cleveland should consider itself lucky if Kelly will even consider coming to c-town, you can't pretend that we havn't killed about 20 coaches and 100 qb's since 1999.

                                        guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
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                                          @usf - Look it up if you don't believe me.

                                          @gips I don't think he could mirror his Oregon offense and be successful. He'd have to run more of a pro offense with a little or a lot of the spread sprinkled in. And running the option is not going to happen with Weeden, and it's more than likely going to get a few QBs injured that can.

                                          Problem is, we don't know if Kelly can be successful doing anything other than spread option offense. We don't know how good he is at a pro level and we don't know if his niche is a fad or not.

                                          I guess he had success at New Hampshire and Columbia but does that even count?

                                          Very risky move with this guy it's boom or bust.

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                                          USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                                          @badnewsbrowns said:

                                          @usf - Look it up if you don't believe me.

                                          It wasn't that I didnt believe you, I couldn't believe Weeden is that stupid to say something like that.

                                          New owner, new coaches, and to come out and say you already can't do something. That's a dumb ass with a loser mentality. Usually it takes players a season or two to adjust to the browns loser mentality. Weeden is just a quick learner.

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