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  • @the-gipper said:

    I believe it is important to do all this due diligence.....but lets face it, I don't think any decision will be made until next week AFTER they have had a chance to talk to Nick Saban after his bowl game.

    Why they would want to talk to this shitbird is beyond me.

    One perspective....

    @slowburn said:

    Why they would want to talk to this shitbird is beyond me.

    One perspective....

    Mandich really held back.

    He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida

    Zombo

  • @slowburn said:

    Why they would want to talk to this shitbird is beyond me.

    One perspective....

    Mandich really held back.

    He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Mandich really held back.

    He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida

    Zombo

    I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.

    If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.

    I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.

    After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.

  • Zombo said:

    Mandich really held back.

    He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida

    Zombo

    I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.

    If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.

    I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.

    After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.

    @the-gipper said:

    If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years

    I take it you are not giving Notre Dame much of a shot?

    Zombo

  • Zombo said:

    Mandich really held back.

    He's a hoot on radio down here in South Florida

    Zombo

    I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.

    If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.

    I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.

    After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.

    @the-gipper said:

    I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.

    If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.

    I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.

    After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.

    Jim Mandich passed away from cancer over a year ago.

  • @the-gipper said:

    If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years

    I take it you are not giving Notre Dame much of a shot?

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I take it you are not giving Notre Dame much of a shot?

    Zombo

    No, no, actually I would prefer if ND would win. And I think they have a hell of a chance.....but then so does Alabama. I guess I would be somewhat satisfied if Saban took the Browns to 3 Super Bowls, winning 2.

    Would you take that?

  • @the-gipper said:

    I am sure he is just pissed that Saban left the Fins for what he thought were greener pastures. Nothing compared to what we have called some of our turncoats....see Modell, LeBron.

    If Saban were to come here, face it...it would probably be for a fairly short run. Longer if he had some real success.

    I will say this: If Saban were to come here the way he went to Alabama and won 3 titles in 4 years, I would be willing to say goodbye to him after the 4 years.

    After all, he would then be 65 and of retirement age.

    Jim Mandich passed away from cancer over a year ago.

    @ytown-fan said:

    Jim Mandich passed away from cancer over a year ago.

    I was referring to Saban who is, I think, like 61 or 62 right now. 4 years til Social Security.

    He brings the Browns 3 Super Bowl wins in those 4 years and it is OK if he retires.

  • Status as I understand it on various coach searches:

    Cardinals interviewing Lovie Smith, Todd Haley, Ray Horton

    Bills interviewing Smith, Ken Whisenhunt, Mike McCoy OC of Broncos and Chip Kelly

    Bears interviewing Bruce Arians, Mike Sullivan Buc OC, Keith Armstrong Falcons ST coach, Joe Camillis Cowboys ST coach

    Chiefs have hired Reid and will likely bring Heckert in as GM

    Eagles interviewing Kelly, Armstrong, McCoy and Mike Nolan

    Chargers interviewing Lovie, Arians, Whisenhunt.

    Where are the Grudens? either John or Jay. Cowher? Holmgren? Billick?

    What about Brian Kelly? Les Miles?

    Anyone else?

  • One guy I do not want at all is Whisenhunt. Why? 58-0.

    Could you imagine the shit Shurmur would have gotten if he lost a game 58-0?

    The Browns were not outscored by 58 points cumulatively until week 15, 17 if you take into account our wins.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    One guy I do not want at all is Whisenhunt. Why? 58-0.

    Could you imagine the shit Shurmur would have gotten if he lost a game 58-0?

    The Browns were not outscored by 58 points cumulatively until week 15, 17 if you take into account our wins.

    @the-gipper said:

    Status as I understand it on various coach searches:

    Where are the Grudens? either John or Jay. Cowher? Holmgren? Billick?

    What about Brian Kelly? Les Miles?

    Anyone else?

    If the Browns lose out on Kelly (and I don't think they will, due to Banner being all palsy-walsy with Kelly's agent), my fall back plan would be Kyle Shanahan. I'm not particularly enamored of Saban- and if you read the undercurrent- Haslam & company are looking for a "long term solution"- which Nick most definitely is NOT. I doubt he'd be the type who would want to coach well into his seventies like Marv Levy.

    PS regarding Holmgren- bah humbug. The guy already had one chance last year- with the Browns. He should have taken over when it was obvious his protege Shur-loss couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

  • Status as I understand it on various coach searches:

    Cardinals interviewing Lovie Smith, Todd Haley, Ray Horton

    Bills interviewing Smith, Ken Whisenhunt, Mike McCoy OC of Broncos and Chip Kelly

    Bears interviewing Bruce Arians, Mike Sullivan Buc OC, Keith Armstrong Falcons ST coach, Joe Camillis Cowboys ST coach

    Chiefs have hired Reid and will likely bring Heckert in as GM

    Eagles interviewing Kelly, Armstrong, McCoy and Mike Nolan

    Chargers interviewing Lovie, Arians, Whisenhunt.

    Where are the Grudens? either John or Jay. Cowher? Holmgren? Billick?

    What about Brian Kelly? Les Miles?

    Anyone else?

    @the-gipper said:

    Status as I understand it on various coach searches:

    Cardinals interviewing Lovie Smith, Todd Haley, Ray Horton

    Bills interviewing Smith, Ken Whisenhunt, Mike McCoy OC of Broncos and Chip Kelly

    Bears interviewing Bruce Arians, Mike Sullivan Buc OC, Keith Armstrong Falcons ST coach, Joe Camillis Cowboys ST coach

    Chiefs have hired Reid and will likely bring Heckert in as GM

    Eagles interviewing Kelly, Armstrong, McCoy and Mike Nolan

    Chargers interviewing Lovie, Arians, Whisenhunt.

    Where are the Grudens? either John or Jay. Cowher? Holmgren? Billick?

    What about Brian Kelly? Les Miles?

    Anyone else?

    Billick has said repeatedly that he wants no part of going back to coaching. I'm surprised that Brian KElly hasn't gotten any attention or mentions. I'm sure we'll hear something from both Grudens once the Bengals are eliminated. I doubt that Cowher will ever come back to coaching. He's not that young anymore and he had his career. I wouldn't be shocked in Jon Gruden waits out another year and goes to Carolina when that job opens.

  • @badnewsbrowns said:

    One guy I do not want at all is Whisenhunt. Why? 58-0.

    Could you imagine the shit Shurmur would have gotten if he lost a game 58-0?

    The Browns were not outscored by 58 points cumulatively until week 15, 17 if you take into account our wins.

    @the-gipper said:

    Status as I understand it on various coach searches:

    Where are the Grudens? either John or Jay. Cowher? Holmgren? Billick?

    What about Brian Kelly? Les Miles?

    Anyone else?

    If the Browns lose out on Kelly (and I don't think they will, due to Banner being all palsy-walsy with Kelly's agent), my fall back plan would be Kyle Shanahan. I'm not particularly enamored of Saban- and if you read the undercurrent- Haslam & company are looking for a "long term solution"- which Nick most definitely is NOT. I doubt he'd be the type who would want to coach well into his seventies like Marv Levy.

    PS regarding Holmgren- bah humbug. The guy already had one chance last year- with the Browns. He should have taken over when it was obvious his protege Shur-loss couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

    @hoorta said:

    If the Browns lose out on Kelly (and I don't think they will, due to Banner being all palsy-walsy with Kelly's agent), my fall back plan would be Kyle Shanahan. I'm not particularly enamored of Saban- and if you read the undercurrent- Haslam & company are looking for a "long term solution"- which Nick most definitely is NOT. I doubt he'd be the type who would want to coach well into his seventies like Marv Levy.

    PS regarding Holmgren- bah humbug. The guy already had one chance last year- with the Browns. He should have taken over when it was obvious his protege Shur-loss couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

    I absolutely, 100% AGREE!!

    Holmgren is the LAST guy I would want.

    Mike

  • @badnewsbrowns said:

    One guy I do not want at all is Whisenhunt. Why? 58-0.

    Could you imagine the shit Shurmur would have gotten if he lost a game 58-0?

    The Browns were not outscored by 58 points cumulatively until week 15, 17 if you take into account our wins.

    @the-gipper said:

    Status as I understand it on various coach searches:

    Where are the Grudens? either John or Jay. Cowher? Holmgren? Billick?

    What about Brian Kelly? Les Miles?

    Anyone else?

    If the Browns lose out on Kelly (and I don't think they will, due to Banner being all palsy-walsy with Kelly's agent), my fall back plan would be Kyle Shanahan. I'm not particularly enamored of Saban- and if you read the undercurrent- Haslam & company are looking for a "long term solution"- which Nick most definitely is NOT. I doubt he'd be the type who would want to coach well into his seventies like Marv Levy.

    PS regarding Holmgren- bah humbug. The guy already had one chance last year- with the Browns. He should have taken over when it was obvious his protege Shur-loss couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

    @hoorta said:

    If the Browns lose out on Kelly (and I don't think they will, due to Banner being all palsy-walsy with Kelly's agent), my fall back plan would be Kyle Shanahan. I'm not particularly enamored of Saban- and if you read the undercurrent- Haslam & company are looking for a "long term solution"- which Nick most definitely is NOT. I doubt he'd be the type who would want to coach well into his seventies like Marv Levy.

    PS regarding Holmgren- bah humbug. The guy already had one chance last year- with the Browns. He should have taken over when it was obvious his protege Shur-loss couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag.

    Kyle Shanahan.......interesting

  • One guy who is a sleeper and I think is a fiery good defensive coach and is hungry is Mike Zimmer Bengals DC.

  • One guy who is a sleeper and I think is a fiery good defensive coach and is hungry is Mike Zimmer Bengals DC.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    One guy who is a sleeper and I think is a fiery good defensive coach and is hungry is Mike Zimmer Bengals DC.

    thank you sir. someone actually looking behind all the smoke and mirrors. i'd be behind that hire 1000%.

  • Kelly tried to play the Browns. I don't think we know who their "number 2" really is. I don't think they have been "formally" interviewed yet. Guys like O'brien, Marrone and Horton are patsies for Kelly. Sorta what the Eagles are using Mike McCoy for.