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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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    So it seems as if we're spending a lot of time worrying about a coach a system et cetera.

    It seems to me a more important executive would be the guy who can evaluate talent for the draft.

    No doubt there's some luck involved but geez guys...

    Rumor has it that Joe banner isn't about to let any head coach have final say over the roster.

    So is anyone here choked up about banners prospecting skills?

    Point number two:

    Will that be the sticking point for any " hi value target" on the coaching landscape?

    And should it be?

    Is it a wise decision to give head coaches free rein?

    ( Unless its Belachick, Parcells or someone like that)

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      B blitzz2 wrote on last edited by
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      I posted in another thread that the Browns were interviewing Tom Gamble: (From 49ers.com)

      [Tom Gamble is in his 24th NFL season and his seventh year with the 49ers. On February 4, 2011, Gamble was promoted to Director of Player Personnel after having served as the Director of Pro Personnel for the previous seven years in San Francisco.

      Gamble’s extensive NFL resume includes work in both college and pro scouting, contract negotiations, and a stint in the coaching ranks.

      While working closely with General Manager Trent Baalke, Gamble oversees both the college and pro personnel efforts. In his previous role, Gamble monitored every NFL roster with an emphasis on scouting talent of upcoming pro free agents, while also maintaining continuous depth of personnel on the 49ers roster. In 2010, Gamble had been assigned additional responsibilities in collegiate scouting in order to maximize the use of his extensive experience in talent evaluation.

      During his time in the NFL, Gamble has helped build nine playoff teams – five with Indianapolis and four with Philadelphia. Prior to his arrival in San Francisco, Gamble served as a college scout for the Colts from 1998 to 2004 under veteran NFL executive Bill Polian.]

      Guy seems to have a pretty decent track record, and has built the 49ers into a great franchise.

      Would he be a decent GM for the Browns? Don't know but I think Banner and Haslem are looking at decent candidates and making well informed decisions on filling their HC/GM positions. They aren't jumping on the 1st one they interview.

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        F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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        sounds like he is a modern day Ernie Accorsi - has a strong background.

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          I posted in another thread that the Browns were interviewing Tom Gamble: (From 49ers.com)

          [Tom Gamble is in his 24th NFL season and his seventh year with the 49ers. On February 4, 2011, Gamble was promoted to Director of Player Personnel after having served as the Director of Pro Personnel for the previous seven years in San Francisco.

          Gamble’s extensive NFL resume includes work in both college and pro scouting, contract negotiations, and a stint in the coaching ranks.

          While working closely with General Manager Trent Baalke, Gamble oversees both the college and pro personnel efforts. In his previous role, Gamble monitored every NFL roster with an emphasis on scouting talent of upcoming pro free agents, while also maintaining continuous depth of personnel on the 49ers roster. In 2010, Gamble had been assigned additional responsibilities in collegiate scouting in order to maximize the use of his extensive experience in talent evaluation.

          During his time in the NFL, Gamble has helped build nine playoff teams – five with Indianapolis and four with Philadelphia. Prior to his arrival in San Francisco, Gamble served as a college scout for the Colts from 1998 to 2004 under veteran NFL executive Bill Polian.]

          Guy seems to have a pretty decent track record, and has built the 49ers into a great franchise.

          Would he be a decent GM for the Browns? Don't know but I think Banner and Haslem are looking at decent candidates and making well informed decisions on filling their HC/GM positions. They aren't jumping on the 1st one they interview.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @blitzz2 said:

          I posted in another thread that the Browns were interviewing Tom Gamble: (From 49ers.com)

          [Tom Gamble is in his 24th NFL season and his seventh year with the 49ers. On February 4, 2011, Gamble was promoted to Director of Player Personnel after having served as the Director of Pro Personnel for the previous seven years in San Francisco.

          Gamble’s extensive NFL resume includes work in both college and pro scouting, contract negotiations, and a stint in the coaching ranks.

          While working closely with General Manager Trent Baalke, Gamble oversees both the college and pro personnel efforts. In his previous role, Gamble monitored every NFL roster with an emphasis on scouting talent of upcoming pro free agents, while also maintaining continuous depth of personnel on the 49ers roster. In 2010, Gamble had been assigned additional responsibilities in collegiate scouting in order to maximize the use of his extensive experience in talent evaluation.

          During his time in the NFL, Gamble has helped build nine playoff teams – five with Indianapolis and four with Philadelphia. Prior to his arrival in San Francisco, Gamble served as a college scout for the Colts from 1998 to 2004 under veteran NFL executive Bill Polian.]

          Guy seems to have a pretty decent track record, and has built the 49ers into a great franchise.

          Would he be a decent GM for the Browns? Don't know but I think Banner and Haslem are looking at decent candidates and making well informed decisions on filling their HC/GM positions. They aren't jumping on the 1st one they interview.

          Sounds like a good resume to me.

          The best part is that his and the Browns theme song can be Bob Seger's Ramblin' Gamblin' Man.

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            Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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            I have been very vocal about Banners lack of experience in scouting, drafting, and signing free agents. I believe he will fail in this regard because of the fact that he has ZERO experience and had to spend millions of dollars in order to get these responsibilities.

            Ruining threads since 1897.
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            • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

              I have been very vocal about Banners lack of experience in scouting, drafting, and signing free agents. I believe he will fail in this regard because of the fact that he has ZERO experience and had to spend millions of dollars in order to get these responsibilities.

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              Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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              @harry-buffalo said:

              I have been very vocal about Banners lack of experience in scouting, drafting, and signing free agents. I believe he will fail in this regard because of the fact that he has ZERO experience and had to spend millions of dollars in order to get these responsibilities.

              What am I missing here? They are going to hire a GM.

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