Congratulations
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Come on Gipper.....just give it up...7 in a row. I mean 7 in a row man.
At what point will it be the SEC is just better??
Really....7....I say SEVEN....that might never be beaten.
Come on my friend....that's impressive
Corrrect to a point Ballpeen- yes, 7 in a row is impressive.
What is not impressive is how the conference gets a free pass on their scheduling. The SEC has always had this arrogance of not traveling outside of their region, because the conference games are so brutal. I agree that the conference schedule is tough, but so are MANY conference schedules. I don't have a schedule on hand to verify this, but I remember reading about how Florida hadn't gone west of Arkansas or north of Kentucky in 25 years.
They have the significant advantage of weather conditions over all the other conferences. Just about all the Bowl games their representatives play in are in their own backyard. I know it's not the conference's fault on those two important facts, but they are big factors in their conference's success.
Corrrect to a point Ballpeen- yes, 7 in a row is impressive.
What is not impressive is how the conference gets a free pass on their scheduling. The SEC has always had this arrogance of not traveling outside of their region, because the conference games are so brutal. I agree that the conference schedule is tough, but so are MANY conference schedules. I don't have a schedule on hand to verify this, but I remember reading about how Florida hadn't gone west of Arkansas or north of Kentucky in 25 years.
They have the significant advantage of weather conditions over all the other conferences. Just about all the Bowl games their representatives play in are in their own backyard. I know it's not the conference's fault on those two important facts, but they are big factors in their conference's success.
Other conference schedules aren't that tough. The SEC pits top 10-15 team against top 10-15 teams for weeks until some lose and finally drop in the rankings. In other conferences, guess what?? They wouldn't be dropping because they would keep winning most of the games.
As for the weather....who cares....both teams are playing in the same conditions. One wins, one loses, 80 degree temps or a ice field.
You can't tell me that OSU as an example is at some disadvantage playing in 75 degree temps in Dec/Jan.
It sounds like you are wanting teams to play in crappy weather to possibly gain your team some possible advantage.
Good weather doesn't handicap any team.....sorry, it doesn't.
You weather guys kill me.
The Big 10 is a storied conference with a ton of power 100 years ago. Bowl games would have been played in Cleveland had the Big 10 insisted. They didn't because they wanted good weather and didn't want weather to fuck up their plans....yes, I cussed. I do every now and again.
Face it, nobody wants to play in crap weather unless they know they are at a disadvantage and seek some sort of advantage. In good weather, it's all equal.
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Corrrect to a point Ballpeen- yes, 7 in a row is impressive.
What is not impressive is how the conference gets a free pass on their scheduling. The SEC has always had this arrogance of not traveling outside of their region, because the conference games are so brutal. I agree that the conference schedule is tough, but so are MANY conference schedules. I don't have a schedule on hand to verify this, but I remember reading about how Florida hadn't gone west of Arkansas or north of Kentucky in 25 years.
They have the significant advantage of weather conditions over all the other conferences. Just about all the Bowl games their representatives play in are in their own backyard. I know it's not the conference's fault on those two important facts, but they are big factors in their conference's success.
Other conference schedules aren't that tough. The SEC pits top 10-15 team against top 10-15 teams for weeks until some lose and finally drop in the rankings. In other conferences, guess what?? They wouldn't be dropping because they would keep winning most of the games.
As for the weather....who cares....both teams are playing in the same conditions. One wins, one loses, 80 degree temps or a ice field.
You can't tell me that OSU as an example is at some disadvantage playing in 75 degree temps in Dec/Jan.
It sounds like you are wanting teams to play in crappy weather to possibly gain your team some possible advantage.
Good weather doesn't handicap any team.....sorry, it doesn't.
You weather guys kill me.
The Big 10 is a storied conference with a ton of power 100 years ago. Bowl games would have been played in Cleveland had the Big 10 insisted. They didn't because they wanted good weather and didn't want weather to fuck up their plans....yes, I cussed. I do every now and again.
Face it, nobody wants to play in crap weather unless they know they are at a disadvantage and seek some sort of advantage. In good weather, it's all equal.
Other conference schedules aren't that tough. The SEC pits top 10-15 team against top 10-15 teams for weeks until some lose and finally drop in the rankings. In other conferences, guess what?? They wouldn't be dropping because they would keep winning most of the games.
As for the weather....who cares....both teams are playing in the same conditions. One wins, one loses, 80 degree temps or a ice field.
You can't tell me that OSU as an example is at some disadvantage playing in 75 degree temps in Dec/Jan.
It sounds like you are wanting teams to play in crappy weather to possibly gain your team some possible advantage.
Good weather doesn't handicap any team.....sorry, it doesn't.
You weather guys kill me.
The Big 10 is a storied conference with a ton of power 100 years ago. Bowl games would have been played in Cleveland had the Big 10 insisted. They didn't because they wanted good weather and didn't want weather to fuck up their plans....yes, I cussed. I do every now and again.
Face it, nobody wants to play in crap weather unless they know they are at a disadvantage and seek some sort of advantage. In good weather, it's all equal.
I don't know if weather is that much of a factor....perhaps the home team concept is a bit.
The Big Ten does have a problem traveling. For many years they would go out to the Rose Bowl and get beat by the Pac-10 (almost always a home game for the USC and UCLAs). But when those teams would meet up in a regular season game in the home of the Big Ten schools...or even on the road, the Big Ten won more than their share.
Maybe the long layoff has something to do with it. Not sure why it would.
Same with regular season games with SEC schools...though for a long time, as someone said, no SEC school will venture north or west. Even when they are scheduled to they renege. I know that OSU scheduled a home game with Vanderbilt. Vandy backed out. Not sure why...some lame excuse. Though I think OSU does have some future games scheduled with SEC teams. Maybe a home and home with Tennessee? Not sure.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
A few points of interest to me.
People like to project good, wholesom values onto the things they love. I have never been that way, when something is a lie, or bullshit, even when my own interests are at hand, I call a spade a spade.
That said, it has always amazed when people tell me of their preferences to college ball over teh NFL. They base this on a variety of uphamisms, platitudes and fantasy observations that they are convinced adorn college sports.
The truth of the matter is that sport in general are polluted with cheats, wrongdoers and crooks. Even pee-pee football, where we first come to understand that the least talented athletes on teh field, are the offensive linemen. Now, I digress.
There is no more fucking honor in the NCAA than their is in the NFL. Winning is important above all, and whether it is the unanimous use of steroids, purposeful injuring of star players through bounties, paying officials, faking test scores and intimidatingthe law makers, sports is as rotted to the core as is American society.
Alabama won the National Championship and they ass fucked Notre Dumb. ANy other story is a lie.
The ancient Romans had sport dead on. Hire gladiators, give them staus, women, pussy, money and comfort. Then, when they lose a step, feed them to the lions as part of the entertainment.
Any team whose owner thinks otherwise, is a loser.
I thought this was really funny - the peepee football part, and the ghoolie sarcasm that manages to get another SHOT on O linemen !
(but ghool-aid aside, they really are the smartest guys on the field)
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Do we really wanna get into all the reasons the SEC has an advantage?
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Corrrect to a point Ballpeen- yes, 7 in a row is impressive.
What is not impressive is how the conference gets a free pass on their scheduling. The SEC has always had this arrogance of not traveling outside of their region, because the conference games are so brutal. I agree that the conference schedule is tough, but so are MANY conference schedules. I don't have a schedule on hand to verify this, but I remember reading about how Florida hadn't gone west of Arkansas or north of Kentucky in 25 years.
They have the significant advantage of weather conditions over all the other conferences. Just about all the Bowl games their representatives play in are in their own backyard. I know it's not the conference's fault on those two important facts, but they are big factors in their conference's success.
Other conference schedules aren't that tough. The SEC pits top 10-15 team against top 10-15 teams for weeks until some lose and finally drop in the rankings. In other conferences, guess what?? They wouldn't be dropping because they would keep winning most of the games.
As for the weather....who cares....both teams are playing in the same conditions. One wins, one loses, 80 degree temps or a ice field.
You can't tell me that OSU as an example is at some disadvantage playing in 75 degree temps in Dec/Jan.
It sounds like you are wanting teams to play in crappy weather to possibly gain your team some possible advantage.
Good weather doesn't handicap any team.....sorry, it doesn't.
You weather guys kill me.
The Big 10 is a storied conference with a ton of power 100 years ago. Bowl games would have been played in Cleveland had the Big 10 insisted. They didn't because they wanted good weather and didn't want weather to fuck up their plans....yes, I cussed. I do every now and again.
Face it, nobody wants to play in crap weather unless they know they are at a disadvantage and seek some sort of advantage. In good weather, it's all equal.
Other conference schedules aren't that tough. The SEC pits top 10-15 team against top 10-15 teams for weeks until some lose and finally drop in the rankings. In other conferences, guess what?? They wouldn't be dropping because they would keep winning most of the games.
As for the weather....who cares....both teams are playing in the same conditions. One wins, one loses, 80 degree temps or a ice field.
You can't tell me that OSU as an example is at some disadvantage playing in 75 degree temps in Dec/Jan.
It sounds like you are wanting teams to play in crappy weather to possibly gain your team some possible advantage.
Good weather doesn't handicap any team.....sorry, it doesn't.
You weather guys kill me.
Look at it this way- I'm a 22 year old college kid under overcast skies for months, and now I'm in Pasadena with sunshine, beautiful girls on the beach. Do I really have to look at my playbook? Of course weather is a factor!
LSU & OSU had a home & home in the late 80s, that's about the extent of a Big 10 vs. SEC matchup outside of bowl games that I can ever recall.
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I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
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I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
The Nat'l Championship had nothing to do with the SEC, and I hate when people start hooting and hollering about it.
Alabama would have made the Nat'l Championship regardless of what conference they played in. Had they played in the ACC, Big East, etc. they would have won every game by 30 points. The only other team I see beating Alabama would have been Ohio State, and that's only because Urban Meyer knows how to beat the SEC.
At Florida, Meyer went something like 35-9 against SEC opponents. Unfortunately most of those losses were to the (then) "Big 3" (Alabama, LSU, Auburn). It will be interesting to see how Meyer does in the National Championship next year, and I can only assume it will be against Saban.
The SEC isn't infallible. All these people screaming "SEC" seem to forget Florida losing to Louisville, Vandy dropping one against Northwestern, Missouri losing against Syracuse, UK losing to WKU, and Arkansas losing to UL- Monroe. It may be the best conference in the NCAA at the moment, but it has it's fair share of garbage teams like the rest of the country.
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I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
I definitely agree with that. Really gay.
Conferences are there for two reasons: ease of scheduling and to pool money resources.
I mean, why would someone from Florida all of a sudden jump on the Missouri or Texas A&M band wagon when they joined the SEC...for money.
I mean, Maryland and Rutgers are now going to be members of the Big Ten? Whoopdefuckingdoo.
Those moves were made so that the Big Ten and its network could move into the prime markets of Washington/Baltimore and New York City...and reap more money.
Even the conferences that my high school belonged to was simply for the ease of scheduling.
If every school were an independent....which they ought to be, then an athletic director would actually have to work for a living to schedule games. As is, 80-90% of their schedule is already made...in all sports, by belonging to a conference.
It allows the AD to then sit back and drink coffee all afternoon. That is what conferences are for.
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After reading all these comments I have come to a conclusion. I don't give a fuck about any of the college teams.
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I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
No it isn't.
Just like I root for Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Baltimore when they make the playoffs.
To me it's homo to root against a team in your conference/division.
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I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
No it isn't.
Just like I root for Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Baltimore when they make the playoffs.
To me it's homo to root against a team in your conference/division.
No it isn't.
Just like I root for Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Baltimore when they make the playoffs.
To me it's homo to root against a team in your conference/division.
I can't do it. I don't root for a team (or teams) to lose every week all season and then when the playoffs or bowl games come around suddenly change over and start rooting for them to win. I'd root for a combination of North Korea, Iraq, and the cold war Russians before I'd root for Cincy, Pittsburgh, Baltimore or that team up north or any other big 10 school.
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No it isn't.
Just like I root for Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Baltimore when they make the playoffs.
To me it's homo to root against a team in your conference/division.
I can't do it. I don't root for a team (or teams) to lose every week all season and then when the playoffs or bowl games come around suddenly change over and start rooting for them to win. I'd root for a combination of North Korea, Iraq, and the cold war Russians before I'd root for Cincy, Pittsburgh, Baltimore or that team up north or any other big 10 school.
I can't do it. I don't root for a team (or teams) to lose every week all season and then when the playoffs or bowl games come around suddenly change over and start rooting for them to win. I'd root for a combination of North Korea, Iraq, and the cold war Russians before I'd root for Cincy, Pittsburgh, Baltimore or that team up north or any other big 10 school.
^+1 I hate the Donkeys (in general) and Dino teeth (in particular) with a passion, but I'll be rooting for them to send "The Little Criminal" and the Ratbirds packing.
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I know that I'd never want Michigan to win a bowl game or championship. By the way, LSU lost to Clemson. Florida lost to Louisville.
Rooting for a conference = gay
No it isn't.
Just like I root for Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Baltimore when they make the playoffs.
To me it's homo to root against a team in your conference/division.
No it isn't.
Just like I root for Pittsburgh, Cincy, and Baltimore when they make the playoffs.
To me it's homo to root against a team in your conference/division.
I generally root against Pittsburgh and Baltimore when they are in the playoffs.
Cincy hasn't been good enough to even give any thought to.
No, no way are you ever going to see me "rooting for the AFC North".
Die mothereffers.
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