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  • W Westside Steve

    Pssst Heck....

    Remember when we planned to burglarize Legacy house?

    I think I changed my mind......

    WSS

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    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    Pssst Heck....

    Remember when we planned to burglarize Legacy house?

    I think I changed my mind......

    WSS

    lmao

    I promise I don't have a bunker with 5 gal buckets of freeze dried food.

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      @westside-steve said:

      Pssst Heck....

      Remember when we planned to burglarize Legacy house?

      I think I changed my mind......

      WSS

      lmao

      I promise I don't have a bunker with 5 gal buckets of freeze dried food.

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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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      @legacy-fan said:

      lmao

      I promise I don't have a bunker with 5 gal buckets of freeze dried food.

      Well hell then there's no reason to rob you...

      I have an addiction to reconstituted Beef stroganoff.

      Wss

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        Just something to think about for all the anti gun people who grudgingly admit they might have a use for self defense...

        And for those who claim that our pistols are for self defense...

        That gun will do you absolutely no good if its locked up.

        Unless it's loaded and with in a hands reach you're probably not going to be able to defend yourself against a home invasion.

        Just saying.

        Wss

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        The answer is biometric pistol safes. Our guns are locked up, all of them. I won't have a loaded gun in the house....but

        that will change when I get a safe like I mentioned. It reads your finger prints, pops open, and you are ready to defend.

        Bolts into the studs in the wall. Can be programmed to accept the fingerprints of more than one person, they run somewhere between

        a hundred and two hundred fifty, maybe. I'm shopping, I want the best quality for the money.

        I haven't gotten to the point where I think I may have to have one loaded at all times, but it's closing in. There have been several home breakins in our area...

        and it seems like the criminals are branching out into the suburbs from the cities more and more.

        The loaded gun thing should scare the hell out of most anybody. If, God forbid, that day came, I'm not shooting at someone until I clearly see that they

        intend to do me harm or no good if they've broken in. Like I've said before, if it's some drunk calling out for his "Mabel", not knowing he's in the wrong house,

        I'm not shooting that intruder. Gun training in safety, and even common sense self defense in different situations is important.

        I have to figure out where to buy 12 gauge black powder shotgun shells for my Dad's old double barrel twelve gauge I haven't shot in years.

        Fun squirrel gun.

        No bunker, Legacy, but I have been dehydrating and canning food. A major part of the giant garden will be designed for that purpose. I think all I can handle is

        600 tomato plants without risking another torn up shoulder or something. But most of the time when I watch "Doomsday Preppers" on tv, I shake my head and

        think "those people are not right in the head".......

        Although, when I build our chicken house on an old wagon so I can tractor it to different places on the farm.....

        would somebody say that about me and our chicken coop on wheels? eh....

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          Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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          Cal - I think the biometrics at that price range are a waste of money if you're looking for them to be quick in an emergency. The quality of the readers isn't what you'd expect and you have to put your finger on the reader with extreme precision for it to register.

          I've read that some folks get around this by spending a little more and getting the ones that allow for multiple people to access and placing their finger on it a bunch different ways so in a panic they are hopefully ok when they don't get their finger down precisely the 1st time.

          That's too risky IMO, and I'm not spending over $1000 for a bedside safe to have a top quality fingerprint reader. A pushbutton lock (like a simplex door lock at the office or wherever) is the way to go) It's quick, and secure and most have a key access for backup. Mechanical components instead of electrical ones always make me feel a little more confident anyway.

          Very nice safes can be had in the $250 range.

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            What you call a "simplex" lock (simplex is largely a fire protection company) or a mag-lock/electronic strike would probably be a decent choice if it were built into the safe with a combination. Having a seperate release button that opens it is very likely to defeat the purpose as anyone with a little bit of electronics knowlegde will know how to defeat a lock like that. In the case of an electronic strike, which is fail-secure you can defeat it by supplying power in the wiring with as little as a nine volt battery. With a mag-lock which is typically fail open you could simply cut the wire, which will drop power to the lock and boom, its open. There's a reason why at your office all that stuff is most likely inside the doorframes or above the ceiling. Electronic locks are onl,y secure if no one could get to the wiring. If you had a button that releases your gun safe by the bed or whatever, then your gun safe is anything but. It's literally an open door.

            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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              I have to research it. I know my CCW instructor said to not buy a cheap one, and his work terrific.

              Food for thought though -

              what would happen if the power goes out? Stays locked? hmm.

              Then, maybe just get one that locks with a key, put the key in it at night - (only with no kids in the house),

              and take it out and....

              goin to have to research this a lot....@@

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                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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                Typically youd have a battery backup for such a set up, cal, in case of power outage

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  What you call a "simplex" lock (simplex is largely a fire protection company) or a mag-lock/electronic strike would probably be a decent choice if it were built into the safe with a combination. Having a seperate release button that opens it is very likely to defeat the purpose as anyone with a little bit of electronics knowlegde will know how to defeat a lock like that. In the case of an electronic strike, which is fail-secure you can defeat it by supplying power in the wiring with as little as a nine volt battery. With a mag-lock which is typically fail open you could simply cut the wire, which will drop power to the lock and boom, its open. There's a reason why at your office all that stuff is most likely inside the doorframes or above the ceiling. Electronic locks are onl,y secure if no one could get to the wiring. If you had a button that releases your gun safe by the bed or whatever, then your gun safe is anything but. It's literally an open door.

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                  Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  What you call a "simplex" lock (simplex is largely a fire protection company) or a mag-lock/electronic strike would probably be a decent choice if it were built into the safe with a combination. Having a seperate release button that opens it is very likely to defeat the purpose as anyone with a little bit of electronics knowlegde will know how to defeat a lock like that. In the case of an electronic strike, which is fail-secure you can defeat it by supplying power in the wiring with as little as a nine volt battery. With a mag-lock which is typically fail open you could simply cut the wire, which will drop power to the lock and boom, its open. There's a reason why at your office all that stuff is most likely inside the doorframes or above the ceiling. Electronic locks are onl,y secure if no one could get to the wiring. If you had a button that releases your gun safe by the bed or whatever, then your gun safe is anything but. It's literally an open door.

                  These are what I'm talking about. Not a simple pushbutton, but a series of pushbuttons used in a combination.

                  http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearm-accessories/firearms-storage/articles/1665415-Handgun-Safes-with-Simplex-Lock-Mechanisms-Secure-Fast-Easy-Access/

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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    What you call a "simplex" lock (simplex is largely a fire protection company) or a mag-lock/electronic strike would probably be a decent choice if it were built into the safe with a combination. Having a seperate release button that opens it is very likely to defeat the purpose as anyone with a little bit of electronics knowlegde will know how to defeat a lock like that. In the case of an electronic strike, which is fail-secure you can defeat it by supplying power in the wiring with as little as a nine volt battery. With a mag-lock which is typically fail open you could simply cut the wire, which will drop power to the lock and boom, its open. There's a reason why at your office all that stuff is most likely inside the doorframes or above the ceiling. Electronic locks are onl,y secure if no one could get to the wiring. If you had a button that releases your gun safe by the bed or whatever, then your gun safe is anything but. It's literally an open door.

                    These are what I'm talking about. Not a simple pushbutton, but a series of pushbuttons used in a combination.

                    http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearm-accessories/firearms-storage/articles/1665415-Handgun-Safes-with-Simplex-Lock-Mechanisms-Secure-Fast-Easy-Access/

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                    @legacy-fan said:

                    These are what I'm talking about. Not a simple pushbutton, but a series of pushbuttons used in a combination.

                    http://www.policeone.com/police-products/firearm-accessories/firearms-storage/articles/1665415-Handgun-Safes-with-Simplex-Lock-Mechanisms-Secure-Fast-Easy-Access/

                    Well there you go it looks pretty safe.

                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      That was an education, there. I went to the Versa.net site, and it went to Godaddy whatever.

                      I'm going to check it out. Thanks !

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