Can Josh Gordon Avoid The Sophomore Slump?
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I expressed a feeling earlier in the year about Josh, and I definetly still have it. He will be the best receiver in the history of the Browns
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Gordon is a beast with a skill set we haven't had in years.
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No doubt it could happen.
A couple of things factor in that area.
First, the rest of the league isn't caught off guard. They now know he can make plays, so he draws more attention.
Second, sometimes a 2nd year player starts to feel comfortable with his standing on the team and doesn't go about his business with the same intensity.
I don't want to say they get lazy, they just aren't as focused on doing the things they felt they had to do to make the team as they did when they were a rookie.
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No doubt it could happen.
A couple of things factor in that area.
First, the rest of the league isn't caught off guard. They now know he can make plays, so he draws more attention.
Second, sometimes a 2nd year player starts to feel comfortable with his standing on the team and doesn't go about his business with the same intensity.
I don't want to say they get lazy, they just aren't as focused on doing the things they felt they had to do to make the team as they did when they were a rookie.
No doubt it could happen.
A couple of things factor in that area.
First, the rest of the league isn't caught off guard. They now know he can make plays, so he draws more attention.
Second, sometimes a 2nd year player starts to feel comfortable with his standing on the team and doesn't go about his business with the same intensity.
I don't want to say they get lazy, they just aren't as focused on doing the things they felt they had to do to make the team as they did when they were a rookie.
I think the key for Gordon is Travis Benjamin.
We need to re-sign Cribbs and keep Benjamin off special teams and on the offense as a big play guy and a decoy to free up Little underneath and Gordon deep.
The other key is to get a tight end who is a threat in the middle of the field. I don't if that's Cameron, I'm OK with re-signing Watson until we find out.
If defenses have to be concerned with Richardson first, and then they have to cover Little a tight end and possible Benjamin too ... that opens up things for Gordon to be a playmaker.
I really don't see WR as an off-season priority, those three are all young and very talented and are only going to get better, and then you have Cooper or Norwood as the fourth WR.
I think our needs on offense are TE, FB and guard ... and those aren't big ticket items for the most part.
Gordon will be a star, no reason why he won't continue to ascend as long as we keep talent around him.
Weeden is the guy on offense that needs to ascend.
I hope Chud and Norv make the most of that talented right arm.
Zombo
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I expressed a feeling earlier in the year about Josh, and I definetly still have it. He will be the best receiver in the history of the Browns
I expressed a feeling earlier in the year about Josh, and I definetly still have it. He will be the best receiver in the history of the Browns
Paul Warfield and Dante Lavelli are in the Hall of Fame. Is he going to eclipse them and become a Hall of Famer?
I hope you are right.
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Like Zombo said, how much any of our other offensive guys improve or regress depends on whether Weeden can help them make plays by becoming the first round calibre qb he was drafted as.
Gordon would have been forgiven if he spent all of last season just learning plays and getting back in the groove considering he spent the previous year doing nothing. The fact he picked things up so quickly bodes well for future.
Its easy to understand why teams catch up and make the adjustments in the second year, but by the same token he and our staff need to be making adjustments to help him move forward and stay a threat. I personally think he will continue to improve under better coaches with braver play calling and can't wait to see what he's capable of next season.
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Let's see him be the best Browns WR since the team came back before anointing him the best Browns WR ever.
He's got a long ways to go to even be in the same zipcode as Warfield. Right now, Gordon isn't as good as Edwards.
One step at a time.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
all on weeden. rookie QBs are known for the 'sophomore slump', not WRs. as long as the ball is thrown in his window he should catch it. i mean we didn't see any sign of BE2 last year did we?
now with a new OC hopefully weeds can give that thing between his ears a wake-up call.
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Let's see him be the best Browns WR since the team came back before anointing him the best Browns WR ever.
He's got a long ways to go to even be in the same zipcode as Warfield. Right now, Gordon isn't as good as Edwards.
One step at a time.
Let's see him be the best Browns WR since the team came back before anointing him the best Browns WR ever.
He's got a long ways to go to even be in the same zipcode as Warfield. Right now, Gordon isn't as good as Edwards.
One step at a time.
I guess you're talking about my post.... I'm not anointing him anything. I have a feeling that Gordon will be the best in Browns history up to this point. Webster Slaughter is about as far as I go back, watching games as a very little kid. I've only seen film of Warfield. But what was he known for? Speed, grace, jumping ability, awesome hands? All I'm saying is that Gordon appears to have enough raw talent, that with a decent QB and coaching staff will, "eclipse" all the others. All the things you see in the past Browns HOFers I think you can see in him
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No doubt it could happen.
A couple of things factor in that area.
First, the rest of the league isn't caught off guard. They now know he can make plays, so he draws more attention.
Second, sometimes a 2nd year player starts to feel comfortable with his standing on the team and doesn't go about his business with the same intensity.
I don't want to say they get lazy, they just aren't as focused on doing the things they felt they had to do to make the team as they did when they were a rookie.
I think the key for Gordon is Travis Benjamin.
We need to re-sign Cribbs and keep Benjamin off special teams and on the offense as a big play guy and a decoy to free up Little underneath and Gordon deep.
The other key is to get a tight end who is a threat in the middle of the field. I don't if that's Cameron, I'm OK with re-signing Watson until we find out.
If defenses have to be concerned with Richardson first, and then they have to cover Little a tight end and possible Benjamin too ... that opens up things for Gordon to be a playmaker.
I really don't see WR as an off-season priority, those three are all young and very talented and are only going to get better, and then you have Cooper or Norwood as the fourth WR.
I think our needs on offense are TE, FB and guard ... and those aren't big ticket items for the most part.
Gordon will be a star, no reason why he won't continue to ascend as long as we keep talent around him.
Weeden is the guy on offense that needs to ascend.
I hope Chud and Norv make the most of that talented right arm.
Zombo
Zombo said:
I think the key for Gordon is Travis Benjamin.
We need to re-sign Cribbs and keep Benjamin off special teams and on the offense as a big play guy and a decoy to free up Little underneath and Gordon deep.
The other key is to get a tight end who is a threat in the middle of the field. I don't if that's Cameron, I'm OK with re-signing Watson until we find out.
If defenses have to be concerned with Richardson first, and then they have to cover Little a tight end and possible Benjamin too ... that opens up things for Gordon to be a playmaker.
I really don't see WR as an off-season priority, those three are all young and very talented and are only going to get better, and then you have Cooper or Norwood as the fourth WR.
I think our needs on offense are TE, FB and guard ... and those aren't big ticket items for the most part.
Gordon will be a star, no reason why he won't continue to ascend as long as we keep talent around him.
Weeden is the guy on offense that needs to ascend.
I hope Chud and Norv make the most of that talented right arm.
Zombo
Nice take, and I agree, except maybe the Cribbs part. We are good at receiver....no doubt we really need to lock in a TE who can work the seam. If we get that, we could be scary good. My hope is Cameron can do that, and think he will. I think the big hang-up with the last much is he wasn't much of a blocker. My hope is Chud and crew look at TE's more as weapons then being a blocker. If Ozzie was stuck with a Pat Shurmer type coach when he came out, his career path would have been totally different.
I think Cameron is going to break out next year. I know I just picked him up in my keeper league. We don't have to cut down to 15 keepers until mid August...enough time to see how we plan to use the guy. He might become one of my two TE keepers.
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Zombo said:
I think the key for Gordon is Travis Benjamin.
We need to re-sign Cribbs and keep Benjamin off special teams and on the offense as a big play guy and a decoy to free up Little underneath and Gordon deep.
The other key is to get a tight end who is a threat in the middle of the field. I don't if that's Cameron, I'm OK with re-signing Watson until we find out.
If defenses have to be concerned with Richardson first, and then they have to cover Little a tight end and possible Benjamin too ... that opens up things for Gordon to be a playmaker.
I really don't see WR as an off-season priority, those three are all young and very talented and are only going to get better, and then you have Cooper or Norwood as the fourth WR.
I think our needs on offense are TE, FB and guard ... and those aren't big ticket items for the most part.
Gordon will be a star, no reason why he won't continue to ascend as long as we keep talent around him.
Weeden is the guy on offense that needs to ascend.
I hope Chud and Norv make the most of that talented right arm.
Zombo
Nice take, and I agree, except maybe the Cribbs part. We are good at receiver....no doubt we really need to lock in a TE who can work the seam. If we get that, we could be scary good. My hope is Cameron can do that, and think he will. I think the big hang-up with the last much is he wasn't much of a blocker. My hope is Chud and crew look at TE's more as weapons then being a blocker. If Ozzie was stuck with a Pat Shurmer type coach when he came out, his career path would have been totally different.
I think Cameron is going to break out next year. I know I just picked him up in my keeper league. We don't have to cut down to 15 keepers until mid August...enough time to see how we plan to use the guy. He might become one of my two TE keepers.
Nice take, and I agree, except maybe the Cribbs part. We are good at receiver....no doubt we really need to lock in a TE who can work the seam. If we get that, we could be scary good. My hope is Cameron can do that, and think he will. I think the big hang-up with the last much is he wasn't much of a blocker. My hope is Chud and crew look at TE's more as weapons then being a blocker. If Ozzie was stuck with a Pat Shurmer type coach when he came out, his career path would have been totally different.
I think Cameron is going to break out next year. I know I just picked him up in my keeper league. We don't have to cut down to 15 keepers until mid August...enough time to see how we plan to use the guy. He might become one of my two TE keepers.
Well, the last guy that Norv Turner handled that was a basketball player in college turned NFL TE, like Cameron is, was Antonio Gates.
If Cameron Jordan....or is it Jordan Cameron... can swing like Gates that would be OK
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