Pathetic State Of Browns Fandom
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anyone over 30 that uses facebook for personal use (not biz promo) and tweets are queefs. i personally think it's nothing but a site for pedophiles to find prey. 'like' me, 'friend' me. GTFO!!
good to know some idiot came up with some supposed fan base demographic based on sexual preference.
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anyone over 30 that uses facebook for personal use (not biz promo) and tweets are queefs. i personally think it's nothing but a site for pedophiles to find prey. 'like' me, 'friend' me. GTFO!!
good to know some idiot came up with some supposed fan base demographic based on sexual preference.
anyone over 30 that uses facebook for personal use (not biz promo) and tweets are queefs. i personally think it's nothing but a site for pedophiles to find prey. 'like' me, 'friend' me. GTFO!!
good to know some idiot came up with some supposed fan base demographic based on sexual preference.
I've used facebook to reconnect with old friends from the Air Force that I hadn't heard from in 25 years. Other than than, I've probably
unfriended more people than I actually have as friends because of the extremely annoying habit people have of posting whatever
random thought that happens to walk through their minds. "Chicken and fresh veggies from the garden for dinner--Yummy!" Jesus Christ.
Some of the shit on facebook makes me want to throw my laptop out into the front yard.
OK, one last rant--seeing an interesting article and clicking on it and getting the pop-up "To read article, like us on facebook." WTF
I need to stop--I could write two pages of shit about facebook that pisses me off.
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Ok this doesn't even make sense. It marks my home county of Mercer as Bengals, but from actually living there it is obvious that the top team is Cleveland and if there was going to be a team that beat the Browns out, it would be the Steelers. Also up in Wood and Lucas county they have it as Steelers but I would honestly say it would be Detroit.
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The reason these polls don't work is you tend to find fans of the succesful teams living in areas not associated with their team more like click the like button than say a Detroit fan living in Detroit.
It's all to do with these people trying to convince themselves and everyone else that they are true fans, rather than glory following, plastic fans that the rest of the people living in their area, supporting their more local team, view them as.
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there is so much wrong with this map its actually incredible. It's only cool for the fact that they were able to illustrate this random sample on a map....
1) As said before, the demographic of this map is skewed heavily towards younger populations. And, I'll admit that because my generation is so inclined for instance gratification, young diehard Browns fans are very hard to come by outside of the CLE metro
2) NW actually makes sense, though in reality Toledo is extremely Lions-based.
3) This map doesn't illustrate population variances in counties. Who gives two shits if the two voters in hoe-dunk county Wyoming voted for ___? And, Montana looks like an Xmas tree.... wonder why...
4) We fight for fans in one of the most difficult spots in the country. Within 6 hours of CLE we have 6 (or just a shade under 20% of) NFL teams: BUF, PIT, CIN, DET, IND, and CHI. People make fun of the notion that the Browns and Bengals have such small fan bases, but the reality is that pussy organizations like the Cowboys are aided by geographic isolation in terms of the proximity of NFL teams.
and.....
5) Browns backers club. It has chapters in fucking Spain (where I'm at currently... hell yes) and Israel. Nuff said
5) Browns backers club. It has chapters in fucking Spain (where I'm at currently... hell yes) and Israel. Nuff said
There's no Backers club in Italy as far as I know. But I know at least one italian idiot rooting for the Browns...
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NFL.com should do this poll. That would be the target audience. Facebook is a broad spectrum of people but you're also taking into account all the mommies, teeny boppers, and others who most likely don't care much for football.
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Thats the culture now, how many Facebook likes? Give me a fucking break. Who cares.
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I feel like the northwest Ohio side of things is wrong.
In living here the past two NFL seasons it seems like 90%+ of residents are either Cleveland or Detroit fans, with the majority of fans being Detroit.
In most sports bars if browns and lions overlap they put the sound of the lions on
.We went to 3 places one Sunday and ended up just going home because they were all playing Detroit sound. -
Just based on that on my view, we have the smallest fanbase, with no cross over to another state.
Just based on that on my view, we have the smallest fanbase, with no cross over to another state.
Russ, even if you made the assumption that this map has any validity...which it does not, what you say is not true at all.
Look at the Jets.....one single county.
Look at Houston...just a few local counties
Same with the Jags.
And the Chargers....that looks like a bit of blue, but it is mostly desert.
And I can tell you from personal experience that the Steelers are by no means the favorite team of central South Carolina. Again, that is probably just at best a handful of voters that make the difference in a county.
And...oh, yeah. Look at Alameda County, California....home of the Raiders. This says they don't even carry their own county. Sorry, but as messed up as the Raiders are you can't tell me that the 49ers are more popular in Alameda County than the Raiders are.
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Dude... it's based on Facebook likes! There are so many other factors that could affect these results. The biggest one being that Facebook is typically used by the younger generations (which have seen nothing but shitty Browns football), and pretty much means that a HUGE GIGANTIC PORTION of older fans/non Facebook members have no input on this.
COME ON SON!
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I think this is fair indicator but not a be all on fandom. I mean even if this correlated would anyone be shocked? We've been a below average team for over a decade. I'm not saying that detracts from my support in the slightest, but you're not going to have people hopping on a ship that's sinking. The browns have one of the most dedicated fan bases in the NFL, and that's the way I like it. No amount of Facebook "likes" will change that.
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Personal experience is anecdotal and can't be used as proof of anything. Example: "I walked down my street and didn't see one Steelers flag, so therefore no one around here likes the Steelers." No one is saying Facebook "likes" is 100% proof of anything, but to say data is wrong because YOU haven't seen it is just foolish.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
At the risk of some of you thin skinned fans accusing me of "trolling", my opinions are honest and heartfelt and NOT meant to piss anyone off. If they do piss you off, perhaps before whining and complaining you might want to take a real honest look at Browns fandom.
I have maintained and taken a lot of pounding for my positions that the huge numbers represented by teh Browns Backers clubs are meaningless, which, they are. Once a member, you can die, but you will still be counted every year.
Do you actually think that the membership of the Browns Backers club is less indicative than this list of Facebook likes?
Complainers always bitch about the poll being inaccurate. Well, like it or not, Facebook statistics persuade billions of dollars of investments and are deadly accurate in defining the norms of our time. I am not praising Facebook, but being honest about it. It is an excellent way to take the pulse of the nation.
Perhaps....but it is by no means a scientific research methodology. e.g. I do NOT think for one minute that there are more Steeler fans in Columbus than there are either Browns or Bengals fans.
And like I said before, it doesn't take into account the FRAK factor. 50% of these yabos that said they like one team this month will change and like another team next month...based on who wins the Super Bowl.
You cannot blame dwindling Browns support on losing, because other losers have more popularity than the Browns do.
If you are being honest, when you travel, you don't see Browns colors, stores seldom carry Browns stuff and the average guy on the street couldn't name 3 browns players. There is more than a losing record at the root of this poor support.
The move, the poor behavior of fans throwing things, threatening coache Belichiks kid, Booing an injured Tim Couch....... and on it goesz. It all add up, it is cumulative.
No, I think you are wrong about that. Any of that shit would not matter one iota if the Browns had been playing in multiple Super Bowls the last decade. It is 90% about the winning and losing. The other 10% is about the marketing. That is why the Cowboys are still popular. They have really done fuck all of what the Browns have done since the mid-90s....but of course they did have that 90s run that helps them...and they have the best know multi-set of tits and asses with their cheerleaders. Marketing helps.
This overall attitude of " hey, if they don't know how great we are, fuck em" is self deprecating. Many Browns fans live in a weird world. But hey, you guys know better. Far be it from me to prevent you from enjoying a shrinking fan base.
Are you saying that we should all turn into FRAKs, or willingly invite the FRAKs in when the Browns get good?
Are YOU, Mr. Volchak willing to embrace a guy that has worn a Steeler jacket who then jumps off that bandwagon in a year or two and onto the Browns bandwagon when the Browns become the far better team in a year or two?
More than 50% of Ohio is Steeler fans, and Cleveland has no culpability in that trend?
First off, I don't believe that for one goddamn minute. Some of that eastern edge is probably a majority Steeler fans...but not Central Ohio or certainly not Northwest Ohio.
As far as Cleveland's culpability in what you think that is....if there is culpability it has to do with one thing only: losing. So, just win baby and all that will change. Trust Me.
Okay, if thats what allows you to sleep at night, by all means carry on.
That and a stiff belt, OK, sure.
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anyone over 30 that uses facebook for personal use (not biz promo) and tweets are queefs. i personally think it's nothing but a site for pedophiles to find prey. 'like' me, 'friend' me. GTFO!!
good to know some idiot came up with some supposed fan base demographic based on sexual preference.
anyone over 30 that uses facebook for personal use (not biz promo) and tweets are queefs. i personally think it's nothing but a site for pedophiles to find prey. 'like' me, 'friend' me. GTFO!!
good to know some idiot came up with some supposed fan base demographic based on sexual preference.
Mik, I'm way on the high side of the demographic- but Facebook does have it's uses.
There are caveats to using it-
1) You never post anything there you wouldn't want the whole world to know- because eventually they will.
2) don't "like" everything in sight. LOL, this dude from Australia gets a free trip to the next World Cup final from his wife if he gets enough "likes". (thinking it's 100,000)
3) Don't friend the whole world. One of my nieces has 2,000 friends.
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That cant be right. Columbus is weighted towards the Browns, ask the CBS reps who have to deal with us when they decide to air the Bungles. We only miss 2-3 games a year lol.
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
That cant be right. Columbus is weighted towards the Browns, ask the CBS reps who have to deal with us when they decide to air the Bungles. We only miss 2-3 games a year lol.
Yessir, you are 100% correct on this. C-Bus is a Browns town, not bungle land, not steeler masterbation nation either.
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Just based on that on my view, we have the smallest fanbase, with no cross over to another state.
Just based on that on my view, we have the smallest fanbase, with no cross over to another state.
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This thread has no merit
I agree, no -one can see the widespread fanbase everywhere else! We are here in Minnesota... there are SO many fans that have left Cleveland to anywhere, everywhere from promotion or other reasons....
just wait til they start winning - yes some bandwagoners (screw em) but ALOT of true fans are out there will be flocking back to our team!
(and bandwagoners will have to prove themselves by taking and passing one of gippers trivia quizes!)
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