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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Zombo brought up the Browns Legends in his trivia question. Here is the list of those persons that are in that group, fyi:

    Browns Legends

    Hall of Fame Members (inducted in 2001)

    Jim Brown - Fullback

    Len Ford - Defensive End

    Frank Gatski - Center

    Otto Graham - Quarterback

    Lou Groza - Offensive Tackle/Kicker

    Leroy Kelly - Running Back

    Dante Lavelli- End

    Mike McCormack - Tackle

    Bobby Mitchell - Wide Receiver/Halfback

    Marion Motley - Fullback

    Ozzie Newsome - Tight End

    Paul Warfield - Wide Receiver

    Bill Willis - Middle Guard

    Hall of Fame Members (inducted in 2003)

    Joe DeLamielleure - Guard

    Hall of Fame Members (inducted in 2007)

    Gene Hickerson - Guard

    Class of 2001

    Ray Renfro - Wide Receiver

    Greg Pruitt - Running Back

    Gene Hickerson - Guard

    Bernie Kosar - Quarterback

    Michael Dean Perry - Defensive Tackle

    Class of 2002

    Mac Speedie - Wide Receiver

    Brian Sipe - Quarterback

    Clay Matthews - Linebacker

    Class of 2003

    Bob Gain - Defensive Tackle

    Dick Schafrath - Offensive Tackle

    Hanford Dixon - Cornerback

    Class of 2004

    Tommy James - Defensive Back

    Dub Jones - Wide Receiver

    Gary Collins - Wide Receiver/ Punter

    Mike Pruitt - Running Back

    Class of 2005

    Jim Ray Smith - Guard

    Frank Ryan - Quarterback

    Jerry Sherk - Defensive Tackle

    Frank Minnifield - Cornerback

    Class of 2006

    Walt Michaels - Linebacker

    Jim Houston - Defensive End/ Linebacker

    Doug Dieken - Offensive Tackle

    Earnest Byner - Running Back

    Class of 2007

    Horace Gillom - Punter/Wide Receiver

    Bill Glass - Defensive End

    Don Cockroft - Kicker/Punter

    Kevin Mack - Running Back

    Class of 2008

    Warren Lahr - Defensive Back

    Paul Wiggin - Defensive End

    Walter Johnson - Defensive Tackle

    Eric Metcalf - Running Back

    Class of 2010

    John Wooten - Offensive Line

    Cody Risien - Offensive Tackle

    Class of 2011

    Vince Costello - Linebacker

    Tom DeLeone - Center

    Class of 2012

    Clarence Scott – Defensive Back

    Ernie Green – Running Back

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    • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      The question: Who is not on this list who should be on it? I will give this some thought myself.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        A few possibles that I have thought of:

        Tony Adamle

        Abe Gibron 4 time Pro Bowler for Browns

        Erich Barnes

        Eric Turner

        Webster Slaughter

        Chip Banks

        Thom Darden

        Bernie Parish

        Dick Modzewlewski

        Bill Nelsen

        Dave Logan

        Reggie Rucker

        Brian Brennan

        Eddie Johnson

        Mike Johnson

        Any others?

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        • The GipperT The Gipper

          The question: Who is not on this list who should be on it? I will give this some thought myself.

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          @the-gipper said:

          The question: Who is not on this list who should be on it? I will give this some thought myself.

          Looks like we are missing some linebackers: Dick Ambrose, Chip Banks, Mike Johnson ...

          Eric Turner is another guy ...

          Zombo

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          • The GipperT The Gipper

            A few possibles that I have thought of:

            Tony Adamle

            Abe Gibron 4 time Pro Bowler for Browns

            Erich Barnes

            Eric Turner

            Webster Slaughter

            Chip Banks

            Thom Darden

            Bernie Parish

            Dick Modzewlewski

            Bill Nelsen

            Dave Logan

            Reggie Rucker

            Brian Brennan

            Eddie Johnson

            Mike Johnson

            Any others?

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            @the-gipper said:

            A few possibles that I have thought of:

            Tony Adamle

            Abe Gibron 4 time Pro Bowler for Browns

            Erich Barnes

            Eric Turner

            Webster Slaughter

            Chip Banks

            Thom Darden

            Bernie Parish

            Dick Modzewlewski

            Bill Nelsen

            Dave Logan

            Reggie Rucker

            Brian Brennan

            Eddie Johnson

            Mike Johnson

            Any others?

            Good list. If I were going to add two next year, I'd say Web Slaughter and Mike Johnson.

            I think most of the guys you named will make it...

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            • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              When there time comes, surely JT, Dawson and Cribbs will make it.

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                Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                Thom Darden deserves to be on it. Still the career leader in interceptions.

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                • The GipperT The Gipper

                  A few possibles that I have thought of:

                  Tony Adamle

                  Abe Gibron 4 time Pro Bowler for Browns

                  Erich Barnes

                  Eric Turner

                  Webster Slaughter

                  Chip Banks

                  Thom Darden

                  Bernie Parish

                  Dick Modzewlewski

                  Bill Nelsen

                  Dave Logan

                  Reggie Rucker

                  Brian Brennan

                  Eddie Johnson

                  Mike Johnson

                  Any others?

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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  A few possibles that I have thought of:

                  Tony Adamle

                  Abe Gibron 4 time Pro Bowler for Browns

                  Erich Barnes

                  Eric Turner

                  Webster Slaughter

                  Chip Banks

                  Thom Darden

                  Bernie Parish

                  Dick Modzewlewski

                  Bill Nelsen

                  Dave Logan

                  Reggie Rucker

                  Brian Brennan

                  Eddie Johnson

                  Mike Johnson

                  Any others?

                  I was going to say, we are starting to run out of guys....of that list Darden is a no brainer IMO....and maybe Turner.

                  We did this too fast.....maybe a Cleveland thing, the R&R HOF is running out of worthy bands. Bernie as an example should be getting in maybe now, or just a season or two ago.....not 12-13 years ago.

                  Larry Benz had a 107 yard int return.....maybe we should induct him.

                  How about Ken Coleman or Gib Shanley....those guys are Browns to me.

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    A few possibles that I have thought of:

                    Tony Adamle

                    Abe Gibron 4 time Pro Bowler for Browns

                    Erich Barnes

                    Eric Turner

                    Webster Slaughter

                    Chip Banks

                    Thom Darden

                    Bernie Parish

                    Dick Modzewlewski

                    Bill Nelsen

                    Dave Logan

                    Reggie Rucker

                    Brian Brennan

                    Eddie Johnson

                    Mike Johnson

                    Any others?

                    I was going to say, we are starting to run out of guys....of that list Darden is a no brainer IMO....and maybe Turner.

                    We did this too fast.....maybe a Cleveland thing, the R&R HOF is running out of worthy bands. Bernie as an example should be getting in maybe now, or just a season or two ago.....not 12-13 years ago.

                    Larry Benz had a 107 yard int return.....maybe we should induct him.

                    How about Ken Coleman or Gib Shanley....those guys are Browns to me.

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                    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                    @ballpeen said:

                    I was going to say, we are starting to run out of guys....of that list Darden is a no brainer IMO....and maybe Turner.

                    We did this too fast.....maybe a Cleveland thing, the R&R HOF is running out of worthy bands. Bernie as an example should be getting in maybe now, or just a season or two ago.....not 12-13 years ago.

                    Larry Benz had a 107 yard int return.....maybe we should induct him.

                    How about Ken Coleman or Gib Shanley....those guys are Browns to me.

                    I'll go one further and say Nev Chandler,,,He was IMO the best of the best browns play by play radio announcers.

                    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                      @ballpeen said:

                      I was going to say, we are starting to run out of guys....of that list Darden is a no brainer IMO....and maybe Turner.

                      We did this too fast.....maybe a Cleveland thing, the R&R HOF is running out of worthy bands. Bernie as an example should be getting in maybe now, or just a season or two ago.....not 12-13 years ago.

                      Larry Benz had a 107 yard int return.....maybe we should induct him.

                      How about Ken Coleman or Gib Shanley....those guys are Browns to me.

                      I'll go one further and say Nev Chandler,,,He was IMO the best of the best browns play by play radio announcers.

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      @nickers said:

                      I'll go one further and say Nev Chandler,,,He was IMO the best of the best browns play by play radio announcers.

                      Maybe because you didn't hear or remember the others, but Nev as well for sure.

                      None the less, we are running out of candidates for this ring. The more we add, the less honorable it gets. Since our return Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson are in,,,,,,Cribbs probably, but at the rate we are going Darren Chevrinni might make it.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                        Ill throw one out to think about.

                        What do you think of Matt Bahr?

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                          Otto Graham or Jim Brown?

                          http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/02/02/greatest-cleveland-browns-player-of-all-time/

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                            I was reading an interesting article on RantSports today that debated weather or not Jim Brown or Otto Graham was the best Browns player ever.

                            *Here is the link below*

                            http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/02/02/greatest-cleveland-browns-player-of-all-time/

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                              @nickers said:

                              I'll go one further and say Nev Chandler,,,He was IMO the best of the best browns play by play radio announcers.

                              Maybe because you didn't hear or remember the others, but Nev as well for sure.

                              None the less, we are running out of candidates for this ring. The more we add, the less honorable it gets. Since our return Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson are in,,,,,,Cribbs probably, but at the rate we are going Darren Chevrinni might make it.

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                              @ballpeen said:

                              Maybe because you didn't hear or remember the others, but Nev as well for sure.

                              None the less, we are running out of candidates for this ring. The more we add, the less honorable it gets. Since our return Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson are in,,,,,,Cribbs probably, but at the rate we are going Darren Chevrinni might make it.

                              The reason we are running out of candidates is because the Browns simply haven't had a sufficient supply of outstanding players in the last 25 years or so.

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                                @ballpeen said:

                                Maybe because you didn't hear or remember the others, but Nev as well for sure.

                                None the less, we are running out of candidates for this ring. The more we add, the less honorable it gets. Since our return Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson are in,,,,,,Cribbs probably, but at the rate we are going Darren Chevrinni might make it.

                                The reason we are running out of candidates is because the Browns simply haven't had a sufficient supply of outstanding players in the last 25 years or so.

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                                @the-gipper said:

                                The reason we are running out of candidates is because the Browns simply haven't had a sufficient supply of outstanding players in the last 25 years or so.

                                True on the lack of fresh supply, but I don't think we are "running out" of legends just yet.

                                I think we can all agree on Thomas, Cribbs and Dawson from the new era, and I think Alex Mack, DQ Jackson and Joe Haden are headed in that direction.

                                and then as mentioned:

                                Tony Adamle

                                Abe Gibron

                                Erich Barnes

                                Eric Turner

                                Webster Slaughter

                                Chip Banks

                                Thom Darden

                                Bernie Parish

                                Dick Modzewlewski

                                Bill Nelson

                                Dick Ambrose

                                Dave Logan

                                Reggie Rucker

                                Brian Brennan

                                Eddie Johnson

                                Mike Johnson

                                Matt Bahr

                                There's 25 guys. If 20 of them make it, that's 10 years of two guys per year. Eventually every team's is going to slow down because you don't normally add two legends per year, but we were lucky to have so many in the early years.

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  I don't know. Maybe we just do it to create some excitement. The Cowboys have 20 and the Packers have 21 in their's. At the rate we are going we'll have the stadium filled with names.

                                  We haven't won a championship in what, 48 years? We couldn't have had that many good plays in that time frame.

                                  JMO

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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                                    These are Browns Legends not Ring of Honor

                                    As good as Chip Banks was there is noway he should be considered a Browns Legend

                                    I'll throw in Big Daddy Carl Hairston into the list

                                    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
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                                      Just curious: Who makes the decision about who goes into the Browns Legends, and is there any criteria other than "once played for the Browns"? Is there a requisite number of years they must have played here? Is there a certain percentage of their careers they must have played here? Several Hall of Famers had cups of coffee with the Browns...but I don't think any of them are in (Guys like Len Dawson/Henry Jordan/Willie Davis/Doug Atkins/Tommy McDonald etc.)

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                                        @nickers said:

                                        I'll go one further and say Nev Chandler,,,He was IMO the best of the best browns play by play radio announcers.

                                        Maybe because you didn't hear or remember the others, but Nev as well for sure.

                                        None the less, we are running out of candidates for this ring. The more we add, the less honorable it gets. Since our return Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson are in,,,,,,Cribbs probably, but at the rate we are going Darren Chevrinni might make it.

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                                        nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                        @ballpeen said:

                                        Maybe because you didn't hear or remember the others, but Nev as well for sure.

                                        None the less, we are running out of candidates for this ring. The more we add, the less honorable it gets. Since our return Joe Thomas and Phil Dawson are in,,,,,,Cribbs probably, but at the rate we are going Darren Chevrinni might make it.

                                        I heard Gib Shanley and IMO...he was boring and he stunk.

                                        Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                                          Just curious: Who makes the decision about who goes into the Browns Legends, and is there any criteria other than "once played for the Browns"? Is there a requisite number of years they must have played here? Is there a certain percentage of their careers they must have played here? Several Hall of Famers had cups of coffee with the Browns...but I don't think any of them are in (Guys like Len Dawson/Henry Jordan/Willie Davis/Doug Atkins/Tommy McDonald etc.)

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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          Just curious: Who makes the decision about who goes into the Browns Legends, and is there any criteria other than "once played for the Browns"? Is there a requisite number of years they must have played here? Is there a certain percentage of their careers they must have played here? Several Hall of Famers had cups of coffee with the Browns...but I don't think any of them are in (Guys like Len Dawson/Henry Jordan/Willie Davis/Doug Atkins/Tommy McDonald etc.)

                                          Apparently there is a "Selection Panel".

                                          http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2012/09/23/sports/nh6017676.txt

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