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  • baltogs-380.jpgA lot of what I have seen here are not bad. I could live with them.

    However, on the subject of uniforms, but I am sorry, those "leotard" that the Ravens wear are terribly gauche. Those pants really look more apt for Swan Lake than NFL football.

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a ballet at times.

    I mean, they need a stripe or something. And why do they always have to wear black pants. I should think an all white uniform would be better looking.

  • When you are focused on Uniformed but forget legacy LIKE LOSER DAWG POUND and WINNER BROWNIE,,,,,,,,,,,,,yu are destined to lose because all wining and losing is forgotten for some dumb ass uniform

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    Just change it to Brown and orange- whoo-whee!!! What a look!!! Go for it!!! Totally retro- way cool!!!

  • Count me in adding a "Dawg" to the uniform and subtracting the "gay elf."

  • The Jaguars are not yet in a place where they can do much to change their roster.

    Today in a state-of-the-team type of address, they unveiled a new logo and spoke of themes, ticket process and scoreboard concepts.

    It’s part of a repackaging for the franchise, which has a long climb up from 2-14 in 2012.

    Regarding the logo, team president Mark Lamping said the team sought something more lifelike and fierce that would retain the teal accents in place since the beginning. A secondary mark is in the shape of a military style badge that incorporates the logo and the shortened Jags’ nickname. ESPN.com's Uni Watch likes the new logos.

    The biggest thing to come out of the news conference in my eyes was the start of a discussion about local revenue. Lamping said the team has fallen from No. 2 in the NFL in 1995 to 29th in 2011 in total local revenue.

    “We need to fix this,” Lamping said. “If we do not, we threaten the financial stability of the franchise.”

    Here are three big revenue generators they believe can help reverse the trend:

    New seats. EverBank Field will be revamped to include upper level loge boxes and field seats. Lamping said next year, and I interpreted that as meaning 2014 though I'm not yet certain.

    Giant upgrades to the scoreboards that would give the team the biggest boards in the NFL, turning EverBank Field into more of a destination. “It will finally give us something where we are the best,” Lamping said. The financing for these and the timing of installation were not made clear.

    A full-time salesperson in London, where the team will play a home game for the next four seasons that will create an opportunity to sell and share sponsorship money in the United Kingdom.

    As for ticket prices in the coming season: Eighty percent will remain flat, 17 percent will increase and three percent will decrease.

    The team is emphasizing three words -- proud, bold, committed -- as part of an overall theme: Stand United.

    Owner Shad Khan said the team now has an “ideal franchise model.”

    GM David Caldwell and coach Gus Bradley spoke briefly at the end of the news conference.

    Team-building and winning will trump any logo, slogan or enormous scoreboard.

    Caldwell and Bradley are the guys to take care of those two departments. Although they can evaluate now, they are a while away from being able to make the moves that will contribute to that.

    nfl_jaglogo_gb1_600.jpg

    For the first time, I envy the Jacksonville Jaguars. I've always followed them, as their colors very closely match the colors of my alma mater (if I ever apply for graduation) and I've always thought they were squandering a great thing there.

    Their stadium is right on the water and is relatively new. They have fantastic weather and are located in a high school football pipeline state. Wayne Weaver honestly just didn't know what in the fuck he was doing. It looks like Shad Khan does.

    The Jaguars are in prime position to do what the Seahawks did a year ago, and Haslam needs to be taking notes. His focus needs to be on revamping the team both on and off the field. It's time to appeal to a new generation, while still keeping our loyal fanbase. We have to completely re-imagine everything there is in relation to the Cleveland Browns. Shad Khan is on the right track with his off-the-field checklist. I hope this is what we intend on doing as well.

  • The Jaguars are not yet in a place where they can do much to change their roster.

    Today in a state-of-the-team type of address, they unveiled a new logo and spoke of themes, ticket process and scoreboard concepts.

    It’s part of a repackaging for the franchise, which has a long climb up from 2-14 in 2012.

    Regarding the logo, team president Mark Lamping said the team sought something more lifelike and fierce that would retain the teal accents in place since the beginning. A secondary mark is in the shape of a military style badge that incorporates the logo and the shortened Jags’ nickname. ESPN.com's Uni Watch likes the new logos.

    The biggest thing to come out of the news conference in my eyes was the start of a discussion about local revenue. Lamping said the team has fallen from No. 2 in the NFL in 1995 to 29th in 2011 in total local revenue.

    “We need to fix this,” Lamping said. “If we do not, we threaten the financial stability of the franchise.”

    Here are three big revenue generators they believe can help reverse the trend:

    New seats. EverBank Field will be revamped to include upper level loge boxes and field seats. Lamping said next year, and I interpreted that as meaning 2014 though I'm not yet certain.

    Giant upgrades to the scoreboards that would give the team the biggest boards in the NFL, turning EverBank Field into more of a destination. “It will finally give us something where we are the best,” Lamping said. The financing for these and the timing of installation were not made clear.

    A full-time salesperson in London, where the team will play a home game for the next four seasons that will create an opportunity to sell and share sponsorship money in the United Kingdom.

    As for ticket prices in the coming season: Eighty percent will remain flat, 17 percent will increase and three percent will decrease.

    The team is emphasizing three words -- proud, bold, committed -- as part of an overall theme: Stand United.

    Owner Shad Khan said the team now has an “ideal franchise model.”

    GM David Caldwell and coach Gus Bradley spoke briefly at the end of the news conference.

    Team-building and winning will trump any logo, slogan or enormous scoreboard.

    Caldwell and Bradley are the guys to take care of those two departments. Although they can evaluate now, they are a while away from being able to make the moves that will contribute to that.

    nfl_jaglogo_gb1_600.jpg

    For the first time, I envy the Jacksonville Jaguars. I've always followed them, as their colors very closely match the colors of my alma mater (if I ever apply for graduation) and I've always thought they were squandering a great thing there.

    Their stadium is right on the water and is relatively new. They have fantastic weather and are located in a high school football pipeline state. Wayne Weaver honestly just didn't know what in the fuck he was doing. It looks like Shad Khan does.

    The Jaguars are in prime position to do what the Seahawks did a year ago, and Haslam needs to be taking notes. His focus needs to be on revamping the team both on and off the field. It's time to appeal to a new generation, while still keeping our loyal fanbase. We have to completely re-imagine everything there is in relation to the Cleveland Browns. Shad Khan is on the right track with his off-the-field checklist. I hope this is what we intend on doing as well.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    For the first time, I envy the Jacksonville Jaguars. I've always followed them, as their colors very closely match the colors of my alma mater (if I ever apply for graduation) and I've always thought they were squandering a great thing there.

    Their stadium is right on the water and is relatively new. They have fantastic weather and are located in a high school football pipeline state. Wayne Weaver honestly just didn't know what in the fuck he was doing. It looks like Shad Khan does.

    The Jaguars are in prime position to do what the Seahawks did a year ago, and Haslam needs to be taking notes. His focus needs to be on revamping the team both on and off the field. It's time to appeal to a new generation, while still keeping our loyal fanbase. We have to completely re-imagine everything there is in relation to the Cleveland Browns. Shad Khan is on the right track with his off-the-field checklist. I hope this is what we intend on doing as well.

    He's just getting ready to move to LA.

  • I guess I can see why this was moved to the uniform thread but I was looking more towards conversation on the other aspects of Khan's rebuild, such as upgrading the scoreboard and stadium, harnessing a central theme, and trying to delve into relatively untapped overseas market. That's why I didn't put it in the uniform thread.

    I guess I should have been more clear.

  • The Jaguars are not yet in a place where they can do much to change their roster.

    Today in a state-of-the-team type of address, they unveiled a new logo and spoke of themes, ticket process and scoreboard concepts.

    It’s part of a repackaging for the franchise, which has a long climb up from 2-14 in 2012.

    Regarding the logo, team president Mark Lamping said the team sought something more lifelike and fierce that would retain the teal accents in place since the beginning. A secondary mark is in the shape of a military style badge that incorporates the logo and the shortened Jags’ nickname. ESPN.com's Uni Watch likes the new logos.

    The biggest thing to come out of the news conference in my eyes was the start of a discussion about local revenue. Lamping said the team has fallen from No. 2 in the NFL in 1995 to 29th in 2011 in total local revenue.

    “We need to fix this,” Lamping said. “If we do not, we threaten the financial stability of the franchise.”

    Here are three big revenue generators they believe can help reverse the trend:

    New seats. EverBank Field will be revamped to include upper level loge boxes and field seats. Lamping said next year, and I interpreted that as meaning 2014 though I'm not yet certain.

    Giant upgrades to the scoreboards that would give the team the biggest boards in the NFL, turning EverBank Field into more of a destination. “It will finally give us something where we are the best,” Lamping said. The financing for these and the timing of installation were not made clear.

    A full-time salesperson in London, where the team will play a home game for the next four seasons that will create an opportunity to sell and share sponsorship money in the United Kingdom.

    As for ticket prices in the coming season: Eighty percent will remain flat, 17 percent will increase and three percent will decrease.

    The team is emphasizing three words -- proud, bold, committed -- as part of an overall theme: Stand United.

    Owner Shad Khan said the team now has an “ideal franchise model.”

    GM David Caldwell and coach Gus Bradley spoke briefly at the end of the news conference.

    Team-building and winning will trump any logo, slogan or enormous scoreboard.

    Caldwell and Bradley are the guys to take care of those two departments. Although they can evaluate now, they are a while away from being able to make the moves that will contribute to that.

    nfl_jaglogo_gb1_600.jpg

    For the first time, I envy the Jacksonville Jaguars. I've always followed them, as their colors very closely match the colors of my alma mater (if I ever apply for graduation) and I've always thought they were squandering a great thing there.

    Their stadium is right on the water and is relatively new. They have fantastic weather and are located in a high school football pipeline state. Wayne Weaver honestly just didn't know what in the fuck he was doing. It looks like Shad Khan does.

    The Jaguars are in prime position to do what the Seahawks did a year ago, and Haslam needs to be taking notes. His focus needs to be on revamping the team both on and off the field. It's time to appeal to a new generation, while still keeping our loyal fanbase. We have to completely re-imagine everything there is in relation to the Cleveland Browns. Shad Khan is on the right track with his off-the-field checklist. I hope this is what we intend on doing as well.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    For the first time, I envy the Jacksonville Jaguars. I've always followed them, as their colors very closely match the colors of my alma mater (if I ever apply for graduation) and I've always thought they were squandering a great thing there.

    What school is that?

    Their stadium is right on the water and is relatively new.

    Uhh, no. That stadium is the old, but renovated Gator Bowl. It may have originally been built in the 40s or 50s.

    (But, fyi, what they did to that stadium WAS the original plan for Cleveland Muni....the plan that Modell originally came up with himself but then rejected after he got the 75 million dollar bribe from Baltimore)

    They have fantastic weather and are located in a high school football pipeline state. Wayne Weaver honestly just didn't know what in the fuck he was doing. It looks like Shad Khan does.

    The Jaguars are in prime position to do what the Seahawks did a year ago, and Haslam needs to be taking notes. His focus needs to be on revamping the team both on and off the field. It's time to appeal to a new generation, while still keeping our loyal fanbase. We have to completely re-imagine everything there is in relation to the Cleveland Browns. Shad Khan is on the right track with his off-the-field checklist. I hope this is what we intend on doing as well.

    I still think you need to check their lease situation because I believe the term of it is over soon. Yes, perhaps if they can get the financing to do a number of those things...and get more revenue then they will stay. Otherwise, yes, a potential move to LA may be in order.

  • Most of the Gator Bowl was destroyed, except for the parts they had renovated 10 years prior to building Jacksonville Muni. It still took them 2 years to destroy most of the original and outdated Gator Bowl and then erect what is now known as Everbank Field. The only parts of the Gator Bowl that are still intact are essentially the outside areas, like the pedestrian ramps. Essentially, they gutted an old watermelon rind and filled it with new fruit.

    Jacksonville's lease is up in 2030. The only reason they're included in the relocation talk is because they've been having trouble filling seats. It's not because their lease is up. If they did move, they would have to pay off the city nearly $100 million up front, and then $1 million in parking and ticket surcharges for every year that was left on the lease.

  • Most of the Gator Bowl was destroyed, except for the parts they had renovated 10 years prior to building Jacksonville Muni. It still took them 2 years to destroy most of the original and outdated Gator Bowl and then erect what is now known as Everbank Field. The only parts of the Gator Bowl that are still intact are essentially the outside areas, like the pedestrian ramps. Essentially, they gutted an old watermelon rind and filled it with new fruit.

    Jacksonville's lease is up in 2030. The only reason they're included in the relocation talk is because they've been having trouble filling seats. It's not because their lease is up. If they did move, they would have to pay off the city nearly $100 million up front, and then $1 million in parking and ticket surcharges for every year that was left on the lease.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Jacksonville's lease is up in 2030. The only reason they're included in the relocation talk is because they've been having trouble filling seats. It's not because their lease is up. If they did move, they would have to pay off the city nearly $100 million up front, and then $1 million in parking and ticket surcharges for every year that was left on the lease.

    Which is why the Chargers are the team that comes up a lot. They have an out clause in their lease that allows them to leave San Diego every year between February and like April. They've said it won't happen this year but I'd be shocked if it doesn't happen next year.

  • Most of the Gator Bowl was destroyed, except for the parts they had renovated 10 years prior to building Jacksonville Muni. It still took them 2 years to destroy most of the original and outdated Gator Bowl and then erect what is now known as Everbank Field. The only parts of the Gator Bowl that are still intact are essentially the outside areas, like the pedestrian ramps. Essentially, they gutted an old watermelon rind and filled it with new fruit.

    Jacksonville's lease is up in 2030. The only reason they're included in the relocation talk is because they've been having trouble filling seats. It's not because their lease is up. If they did move, they would have to pay off the city nearly $100 million up front, and then $1 million in parking and ticket surcharges for every year that was left on the lease.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Most of the Gator Bowl was destroyed, except for the parts they had renovated 10 years prior to building Jacksonville Muni. It still took them 2 years to destroy most of the original and outdated Gator Bowl and then erect what is now known as Everbank Field. The only parts of the Gator Bowl that are still intact are essentially the outside areas, like the pedestrian ramps. Essentially, they gutted an old watermelon rind and filled it with new fruit.

    Jacksonville's lease is up in 2030. The only reason they're included in the relocation talk is because they've been having trouble filling seats. It's not because their lease is up. If they did move, they would have to pay off the city nearly $100 million up front, and then $1 million in parking and ticket surcharges for every year that was left on the lease.

    Well, that same kind of "gutting" is what was planned for Cleveland Muni.

    On the Jags lease...that new lease deal must have just been made as I understood their lease was going to expire.

    But, yea, their whole problems could probably be solved by winning...or bringing in Tim Tebow...which I understand they are NOT going to do, are they?

    And is the London deal going to really be all that much of a financial boon to them? I personally would not think so.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Jacksonville's lease is up in 2030. The only reason they're included in the relocation talk is because they've been having trouble filling seats. It's not because their lease is up. If they did move, they would have to pay off the city nearly $100 million up front, and then $1 million in parking and ticket surcharges for every year that was left on the lease.

    Which is why the Chargers are the team that comes up a lot. They have an out clause in their lease that allows them to leave San Diego every year between February and like April. They've said it won't happen this year but I'd be shocked if it doesn't happen next year.

    @mark-o said:

    Which is why the Chargers are the team that comes up a lot. They have an out clause in their lease that allows them to leave San Diego every year between February and like April. They've said it won't happen this year but I'd be shocked if it doesn't happen next year.

    Well, apparently a deal for a new stadium is in place in LA. However, it all appears to be contingent on getting an NFL team.

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/story/_/id/8457561/agreement-signed-build-nfl-stadium-la

    So, I see you are betting on it being the Chargers. I wonder who else may be a candidate?

  • Here is a link that has several articles in a sort of reverse time line for the LA Stadium deal:

    http://la.curbed.com/tags/nfl-stadium

  • From NFL.com, though this is a bit old. Written in May 2012:

    Here's a quick breakdown of where things stand for each franchise ...

    San Diego Chargers

    San Diego has a three-month escape clause at the beginning of each calendar year at this point in its lease, and could leave next year by paying just $22 million in outstanding bonds. Still, there's a feeling that the Spanos family doesn't want to leave, the NFL doesn't want to lose the San Diego market and a reasonable stadium deal will keep the Bolts there.

    They have the easiest out, and the shortest, most painless path, but they've already had the chance to go, and haven't. And they might not be the NFL's ideal answer to the L.A. question. Plus, there's the fact that -- and this effects the Raiders, too -- the California government won't be overly enthusiastic to help a stadium plan if it's simply robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    St. Louis Rams

    The team has submitted a proposal to renovate the Edward Jones Dome to the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission. If it's accepted, the team's lease extends through 2025. If it's rejected, an arbitrator will work out a compromise plan, and the city accepting that one in December would also extend the lease to '25. If the city turns that one down, an out could be enacted in the Rams' lease in January 2015, pending some litigation.

    What we know is owner Stan Kroenke has deep pockets and Los Angeles ties. The ball, for now, is in St. Louis' court to get the dome into the lease-prescribed "top 25 percent" of venues in the league.

    Oakland Raiders

    The Raiders' lease is up after 2013. Sharing the 49ers' Santa Clara digs, set to open in 2014, is an option. A better one for the team would be gutting the Coliseum, which is located on a plot of land in Oakland the team feels is ideal. But the central question with the latter plan -- and really the former one, too -- is whether or not the Bay Area can support two teams, from a corporate standpoint, from a suite-selling standpoint, and -- if they were to play in separate venues long term -- from a naming-rights standpoint.

    While some speculation exists that estate taxes will eventually force Mark Davis to sell the team, my understanding is that a plan is in place for the club to remain in the family. But that doesn't mean the family won't eventually see greener pastures in its old area code if its current region simply doesn't have room for two clubs to thrive financially.

    Jacksonville Jaguars

    The bottom line here is that Jacksonville simply hasn't grown the way the NFL envisioned when it awarded the city a franchise in 1995. But the club has been creative in trying to make its challenging conditions work. And with new ownership, the Jags probably aren't going anywhere for a while. One reason is the team's lease, which runs through 2030.

    There is an out, but a tough one to enact. The Jaguars would have to prove they lost money three years in a row -- not an easy feat now, and one that might be tougher when the new TV deals kick in -- and then pay a significant fee on top of that. Also, Wayne Weaver put additional penalties for moving the team into his deal to sell the club to Shahid Khan, making it even more costly to do so. For now, Khan seems committed to making it work in Jacksonville. And really, for the time being, he doesn't have a choice.

    Buffalo Bills

    Owner Ralph Wilson, who is in his 90s, has said the team will not be moved while he's still living. The club's succession plan is to put the team in a trust and sell to the highest bidder. Still, the club is negotiating a new lease and renovation plan, and its regionalization efforts have been largely successful. Thirty-two percent of the club's tickets sales have come from Rochester, an hour away, and Southern Ontario, and the league is interested in continuing to cultivate the Toronto market.

    Down the line, could a new deep-pocketed owner swoop in, and whisk the team away? It's not impossible. But chances are, that won't happen any time soon.

    ***

    So as we close in on the 20th anniversary of the Raiders' and Rams' escape from L.A., we still don't know the Where or the Who -- and now even the Why is coming into question when it comes to reestablishing the league's presence in the City of Angels.

    The bottom line is the NFL is thriving. The TV deals are done. And those in Los Angeles that follow the NFL have displayed a contentment with being fed the premier games on a week-to-week basis, even if it means that the closest team is located more than 100 miles away.

    Maybe that changes sometime in the near future. But as of right now, there doesn't seem to be any real urgency to make that happen.

  • From NFL.com, though this is a bit old. Written in May 2012:

    Here's a quick breakdown of where things stand for each franchise ...

    San Diego Chargers

    San Diego has a three-month escape clause at the beginning of each calendar year at this point in its lease, and could leave next year by paying just $22 million in outstanding bonds. Still, there's a feeling that the Spanos family doesn't want to leave, the NFL doesn't want to lose the San Diego market and a reasonable stadium deal will keep the Bolts there.

    They have the easiest out, and the shortest, most painless path, but they've already had the chance to go, and haven't. And they might not be the NFL's ideal answer to the L.A. question. Plus, there's the fact that -- and this effects the Raiders, too -- the California government won't be overly enthusiastic to help a stadium plan if it's simply robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    St. Louis Rams

    The team has submitted a proposal to renovate the Edward Jones Dome to the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission. If it's accepted, the team's lease extends through 2025. If it's rejected, an arbitrator will work out a compromise plan, and the city accepting that one in December would also extend the lease to '25. If the city turns that one down, an out could be enacted in the Rams' lease in January 2015, pending some litigation.

    What we know is owner Stan Kroenke has deep pockets and Los Angeles ties. The ball, for now, is in St. Louis' court to get the dome into the lease-prescribed "top 25 percent" of venues in the league.

    Oakland Raiders

    The Raiders' lease is up after 2013. Sharing the 49ers' Santa Clara digs, set to open in 2014, is an option. A better one for the team would be gutting the Coliseum, which is located on a plot of land in Oakland the team feels is ideal. But the central question with the latter plan -- and really the former one, too -- is whether or not the Bay Area can support two teams, from a corporate standpoint, from a suite-selling standpoint, and -- if they were to play in separate venues long term -- from a naming-rights standpoint.

    While some speculation exists that estate taxes will eventually force Mark Davis to sell the team, my understanding is that a plan is in place for the club to remain in the family. But that doesn't mean the family won't eventually see greener pastures in its old area code if its current region simply doesn't have room for two clubs to thrive financially.

    Jacksonville Jaguars

    The bottom line here is that Jacksonville simply hasn't grown the way the NFL envisioned when it awarded the city a franchise in 1995. But the club has been creative in trying to make its challenging conditions work. And with new ownership, the Jags probably aren't going anywhere for a while. One reason is the team's lease, which runs through 2030.

    There is an out, but a tough one to enact. The Jaguars would have to prove they lost money three years in a row -- not an easy feat now, and one that might be tougher when the new TV deals kick in -- and then pay a significant fee on top of that. Also, Wayne Weaver put additional penalties for moving the team into his deal to sell the club to Shahid Khan, making it even more costly to do so. For now, Khan seems committed to making it work in Jacksonville. And really, for the time being, he doesn't have a choice.

    Buffalo Bills

    Owner Ralph Wilson, who is in his 90s, has said the team will not be moved while he's still living. The club's succession plan is to put the team in a trust and sell to the highest bidder. Still, the club is negotiating a new lease and renovation plan, and its regionalization efforts have been largely successful. Thirty-two percent of the club's tickets sales have come from Rochester, an hour away, and Southern Ontario, and the league is interested in continuing to cultivate the Toronto market.

    Down the line, could a new deep-pocketed owner swoop in, and whisk the team away? It's not impossible. But chances are, that won't happen any time soon.

    ***

    So as we close in on the 20th anniversary of the Raiders' and Rams' escape from L.A., we still don't know the Where or the Who -- and now even the Why is coming into question when it comes to reestablishing the league's presence in the City of Angels.

    The bottom line is the NFL is thriving. The TV deals are done. And those in Los Angeles that follow the NFL have displayed a contentment with being fed the premier games on a week-to-week basis, even if it means that the closest team is located more than 100 miles away.

    Maybe that changes sometime in the near future. But as of right now, there doesn't seem to be any real urgency to make that happen.

    @the-gipper said:

    From NFL.com, though this is a bit old. Written in May 2012:

    Here's a quick breakdown of where things stand for each franchise ...

    San Diego Chargers

    San Diego has a three-month escape clause at the beginning of each calendar year at this point in its lease, and could leave next year by paying just $22 million in outstanding bonds. Still, there's a feeling that the Spanos family doesn't want to leave, the NFL doesn't want to lose the San Diego market and a reasonable stadium deal will keep the Bolts there.

    They have the easiest out, and the shortest, most painless path, but they've already had the chance to go, and haven't. And they might not be the NFL's ideal answer to the L.A. question. Plus, there's the fact that -- and this effects the Raiders, too -- the California government won't be overly enthusiastic to help a stadium plan if it's simply robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    St. Louis Rams

    The team has submitted a proposal to renovate the Edward Jones Dome to the St. Louis Convention and Visitors Commission. If it's accepted, the team's lease extends through 2025. If it's rejected, an arbitrator will work out a compromise plan, and the city accepting that one in December would also extend the lease to '25. If the city turns that one down, an out could be enacted in the Rams' lease in January 2015, pending some litigation.

    What we know is owner Stan Kroenke has deep pockets and Los Angeles ties. The ball, for now, is in St. Louis' court to get the dome into the lease-prescribed "top 25 percent" of venues in the league.

    Oakland Raiders

    The Raiders' lease is up after 2013. Sharing the 49ers' Santa Clara digs, set to open in 2014, is an option. A better one for the team would be gutting the Coliseum, which is located on a plot of land in Oakland the team feels is ideal. But the central question with the latter plan -- and really the former one, too -- is whether or not the Bay Area can support two teams, from a corporate standpoint, from a suite-selling standpoint, and -- if they were to play in separate venues long term -- from a naming-rights standpoint.

    While some speculation exists that estate taxes will eventually force Mark Davis to sell the team, my understanding is that a plan is in place for the club to remain in the family. But that doesn't mean the family won't eventually see greener pastures in its old area code if its current region simply doesn't have room for two clubs to thrive financially.

    Jacksonville Jaguars

    The bottom line here is that Jacksonville simply hasn't grown the way the NFL envisioned when it awarded the city a franchise in 1995. But the club has been creative in trying to make its challenging conditions work. And with new ownership, the Jags probably aren't going anywhere for a while. One reason is the team's lease, which runs through 2030.

    There is an out, but a tough one to enact. The Jaguars would have to prove they lost money three years in a row -- not an easy feat now, and one that might be tougher when the new TV deals kick in -- and then pay a significant fee on top of that. Also, Wayne Weaver put additional penalties for moving the team into his deal to sell the club to Shahid Khan, making it even more costly to do so. For now, Khan seems committed to making it work in Jacksonville. And really, for the time being, he doesn't have a choice.

    Buffalo Bills

    Owner Ralph Wilson, who is in his 90s, has said the team will not be moved while he's still living. The club's succession plan is to put the team in a trust and sell to the highest bidder. Still, the club is negotiating a new lease and renovation plan, and its regionalization efforts have been largely successful. Thirty-two percent of the club's tickets sales have come from Rochester, an hour away, and Southern Ontario, and the league is interested in continuing to cultivate the Toronto market.

    Down the line, could a new deep-pocketed owner swoop in, and whisk the team away? It's not impossible. But chances are, that won't happen any time soon.

    ***

    So as we close in on the 20th anniversary of the Raiders' and Rams' escape from L.A., we still don't know the Where or the Who -- and now even the Why is coming into question when it comes to reestablishing the league's presence in the City of Angels.

    The bottom line is the NFL is thriving. The TV deals are done. And those in Los Angeles that follow the NFL have displayed a contentment with being fed the premier games on a week-to-week basis, even if it means that the closest team is located more than 100 miles away.

    Maybe that changes sometime in the near future. But as of right now, there doesn't seem to be any real urgency to make that happen.

    Like to see the Rams back in LA. It's where they belong.

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  • Fantastic pictures...but not many in San Diego will even notice and it's not like they're moving across the country. It's a 2 hour drive north and staying in the same state.