Gop Needs Redormation?
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Social issues will always matter. If the general population feels current laws are not just, they will change.
It is easy for people to say "Stop legislating morality! We have more important issues!" etc, when the current social laws in place are on the side they agree with.
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I see ultra conservatives more than liberals as trying to legislate morality. I mean, really, with so many problems in this country who gives a crap about gays? Just let them be. This whole gays in scouts things is bring held up by the religious right. Give it a rest. Like gays don't want to hike and camp learn to do stuff, all they can think about is their uncontrollable need to corrupt the straight.
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I will offer this for consideration.
Who cares about a brand name?
If you have core values then what difference does it make if your party gives them up?
If you truly believe abortion is murder then why would you want your party to agree that it's OK at anytime for any reason?
For you Lefties who were so outraged at War criminal George Bush's treatment of the Constitution?
So what difference does it make whether you have a donkey or an elephant on your ball cap?
Let's say you drink diet coke.
If the people at corporate headquarters decide it would sell better if it had more sugar than regular coke, why would you buy it?
Those of us on the left or on the right have seen our ideals eroded.
The brand probably isn't, or shouldn't be, that important.
WSS
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Would you rather vote for the party that has all the values you believe in but lose the election
Or compromise on some and have a party where you believe in most of the values and have them win?
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Would you rather vote for the party that has all the values you believe in but lose the election
Or compromise on some and have a party where you believe in most of the values and have them win?
Would you rather vote for the party that has all the values you believe in but lose the election
Or compromise on some and have a party where you believe in most of the values and have them win?
I suppose I'd need to weigh out each of those issues, but frankly I can't see where that would make much difference.
There is more parity in the political parties than in the NFL.
I think we basically pick our guy and then, after that, start to compile a list of reasons.
WSS
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Well I'm guessing (hoping) most people pick their guy based on how he aligns with their beliefs.
Unless they just blindly pick by party affiliation.
But then again I guess that's going by your values as well.
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The problem imo is that both sides have become to polarizing, the republicans suffer more since their base tends to be people who have established themselves more financially(usually older adults). To often to get the presidential nomination from either side they have to pander to the far right(or left) being to far away from the center to pick up more "swing" votes. If the republicans want to get serious and to take back the white house in 4yrs they should focus more on their fiscal responsibilities issues(and not just be the party of "no" to everything brought by the president) and less on "morality" type of issues, I am not saying to come out and be pro-abortion/gay marriage, but try and move the focus from those issues.
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I think most people vote for the person they think will help THEM the most.
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I think most people vote for the person they think will help THEM the most.
I think most people vote for the person they think will help THEM the most.
Which is precisely the reason the GOP needs to pander more to the center. If you're going to win on nothing but extreme right views you simply will not win.
Steve wonders why anyone would compromise their positions on subjects like abortion...because you want to win. Nothing more.
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Actually Cysko there arent too many issues that are of dire importance to me.
What let's say there was.
If party A decides that they will do exactly what party B wants and neither agree with me then who cares?
Is there any issue that really matters to you?
I'm being facetious now but let's say 1 party agreed with you on every issue except that they want to bring back slavery ....
WSS
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Actually Cysko there arent too many issues that are of dire importance to me.
What let's say there was.
If party A decides that they will do exactly what party B wants and neither agree with me then who cares?
Is there any issue that really matters to you?
I'm being facetious now but let's say 1 party agreed with you on every issue except that they want to bring back slavery ....
WSS
Actually Cysko there arent too many issues that are of dire importance to me.
What let's say there was.
If party A decides that they will do exactly what party B wants and neither agree with me then who cares?
Is there any issue that really matters to you?
I'm being facetious now but let's say 1 party agreed with you on every issue except that they want to bring back slavery ....
WSS
That's a ridiculous example.
Of course you have to weigh each issue's importance to you though.
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Actually Cysko there arent too many issues that are of dire importance to me.
What let's say there was.
If party A decides that they will do exactly what party B wants and neither agree with me then who cares?
Is there any issue that really matters to you?
I'm being facetious now but let's say 1 party agreed with you on every issue except that they want to bring back slavery ....
WSS
That's a ridiculous example.
Of course you have to weigh each issue's importance to you though.
That's a ridiculous example.
Of course you have to weigh each issue's importance to you though.
Of course it's a ridiculous example, woody.
But as I say most issues don't freak me out much.
There are some people that take other things very seriously.
I mentioned the right to life people and the anti war crowd.
WSS
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so the fact remains - the 47% voters of red states / counties reacted to the self styled "center"
position of the libs when they actually decided to go the left of center....the republicans did not have the right guy this time (again) and never mind about voter fraud.....
like Cal said, ebb and flow - besides, the nation will go to the conservative party when it comes time to fix the real problems of its financial house...
right now its just an admiration society
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