Foot In The Door, Camel's Nose In Under The Tent...
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More likely, you live in fantasyland as in, you fantasize that you have a sense of humor.
And that ain't no joke, jack.
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LOl, really? You live in some fantasy land.
You think Sarah palin would be an acceptable head of the NRA and I live in a fantasy land. Right.
You think Sarah palin would be an acceptable head of the NRA and I live in a fantasy land. Right.
lol exactly
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The Department of Homeland Security is set to purchase a further 21.6 million rounds of ammunition to add to the 1.6 billion bullets it has already obtained over the course of the last 10 months alone, figures which have stoked concerns that the federal agency is preparing for civil unrest.
A solicitation posted yesterday on the Fed Bid website details how the bullets are required for the DHS Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artesia, New Mexico.The solicitation asks for 10 million pistol cartridge .40 caliber 165 Grain, jacketed Hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds) and 10 million 9mm 115 grain jacketed hollow point bullets (100 quantities of 100,000 rounds).
The document also lists a requirement for 1.6 million pistol cartridge 9mm ball bullets (40 quantities of 40,000 rounds).
An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months stands at around 1.625 billion. In March 2012, ATK announced that they had agreed to provide the DHS with
a maximum of 450 million bullets over four years, a story that prompted questions about why the feds were buying ammunition in such large quantities. In September last year, the federal agency purchased a further 200 million bullets.To put that in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq,
US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. Extrapolating the figures, the DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale war for almost 30 years.Such massive quantities of ammo purchases have stoked fears that the agency is preparing for some kind of domestic unrest. In 2011, Department of Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano directed Immigration and Customs Enforcement to
prepare for a mass influx of immigrants into the United States, calling for the plan to deal with the “shelter” and “processing” of large numbers of people.The federal agency’s primary concern is now centered around thwarting “homegrown terrorism,” but information produced and used by the DHS to train its personnel routinely equates conservative political ideology with domestic extremism.
A study funded by the Department of Homeland Security that was leaked last year characterizes Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.In August 2012, the DHS censored information relating to the amount of bullets purchased by the federal agency on behalf of Immigration & Customs Enforcement, citing an “unusual and compelling urgency” to acquire the bullets, noting that there is a shortage of bullets which is threatening a situation that could cause “substantial safety issues for the government” should law enforcement officials not be adequately armed.As we highlighted last month, the DHS’ previous ammunition solicitation was awarded to Evian Group, an organization that was formed just five days before the announcement of the solicitation and appeared to be little more than a front organization since it didn’t have a genuine physical address, a website, or even a phone number.While Americans are being browbeaten with rhetoric about the necessity to give up semi-automatic firearms in the name of preventing school shootings, the federal government is arming itself to the teeth with both ammunition and guns. Last September,
the DHS purchased no less than 7,000 fully automatic assault rifles, labeling them “Personal Defense Weapons.” -
Aren't some of those numbers just the total amount of ammo bought of the length of a contract?
Also, what are you saying this is? Do you think Obama is arming a special militia to come take your guns, bibles and apple pie? I couldn't imagine living inside your paranoid head for even a day...
Cuz fuck training exercises, those aren't even a thing!
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ah, you are learning how to use the "straw man" tactic from heckbunker. so, you aren't COMPLETELY stupid.
Just a whole hell of a lot.
The concern is, on my part, that the enormous amount of ammo for training, is being purchased for
....decades and decades. Obamao marxit pig uses economic leverage as a weapon.
And, he has voted to dramatically raise ammo price taxes, etc etc etc.
So, they are trying to explode the price of ammo. Brilliant - when Obamao marxist pig is no longer president,
they won't have to buy ammo anymore for a long while. And the price will go down, and then the sales to
regular ole Americans will skyrocket past where it is now.
You still have no meaningful contribute to this thread. Perhaps you'd like to stay out of threads
where you aren't contributing to the THREAD SUBJECT. You keep proving that you are heckbunker's flea.
So much like the little, ignorant squirt down the street who was always saying stupid stuff, then running
back in his house while crying for "help".
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Won't ammo makers just up production on ammo to keep in line with the growing demand? They'll just end up making more money. Its not like its a completely finite resource.
Its hardly a straw man argument when half your posts are about the imposing Obama Nazi army
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Aren't some of those numbers just the total amount of ammo bought of the length of a contract?
Also, what are you saying this is? Do you think Obama is arming a special militia to come take your guns, bibles and apple pie? I couldn't imagine living inside your paranoid head for even a day...
Cuz fuck training exercises, those aren't even a thing!
Aren't some of those numbers just the total amount of ammo bought of the length of a contract?
Also, what are you saying this is? Do you think Obama is arming a special militia to come take your guns, bibles and apple pie? I couldn't imagine living inside your paranoid head for even a day...
Cuz fuck training exercises, those aren't even a thing!
Right? I think this guy truly lives in fear that a street thug army is going to make war on his farm. Cal...its ridiculous. Give it up. Obama will fade away in 2016 and build a library or something. He's not going to become Hitler. You're fine.
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I'll repeat this but here's where NRA fucked everything up.
Everybody wants, or says they want, background checks.
Aside from the fact that they probably won't have enough teeth to make any difference they really should have put together a severe, tough and stringent set of rules.
Pass that bill ASAP and let the left tear it apart over privacy concerns.
It's all politics anyway.
WSS
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LOl, really? You live in some fantasy land.
You think Sarah palin would be an acceptable head of the NRA and I live in a fantasy land. Right.
You think Sarah palin would be an acceptable head of the NRA and I live in a fantasy land. Right.
No, that you think that it would be the death knell of the NRA is fantasy land. NRA isn't going anywhere. You and Woody need reading comprehension.
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You think Sarah palin would be an acceptable head of the NRA and I live in a fantasy land. Right.
No, that you think that it would be the death knell of the NRA is fantasy land. NRA isn't going anywhere. You and Woody need reading comprehension.
No, that you think that it would be the death knell of the NRA is fantasy land. NRA isn't going anywhere. You and Woody need reading comprehension.
Sarah palin being the head of the NRA would immediately make it a national joke and ruin any political power they have. That shit would be lampooned on SNL, the onion, the daily show etc. mercilessly. Sarah Palin is just an awful choice. Just awful. As bad or worse than sweaty teddy nugent. If you want to go the celebrity route you'd have to try and snag Arnold Schwarzenegger. At least he's got some credibility and you'd think he'd have some healthy respect for guns.
Still, at this time David Keene would probably be a much more tolerable spokesperson. Do you really want to rally around LaPierre?
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I don't care about Pierre. Members of the NRA care about their freakin RIGHTS that they will NEVER GIVE UP.
That's it. That's all.
I'm fine with background checks. But kids who get their hands on guns that aren't theirs....
and go violent and shoot and murder people....
can any lib on this board see how background checks don't stop the kid?
So, if it doesn't stop the kid, doesn't stop criminals,
what in the HELL is the point then?
The only reasonable answer is....
anti gun foot in the door, Cass Sunstein "Nudge" disarming of Americans. That's the logical conclusion.
And don't bother disagreeing unless you have a genuine explanation about the hypocrisy of
"wanting a solution" that doesn't solve any alleged problem.
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sad part is, you aren't kidding.
You are just venting, and refusing to admit your emotional outbursts are invalid.
You don't offer ANY kind of legit solution to the PROBLEM. NONE. zero any.
nada.
zilch.
But go ahead and scream that making magazines smaller by 5 or 10 rounds will stop even one violent murder from happening.
You know it won't, but the emotions are all that matter, lib style.
Too bad. It's knee jerks like the anti-gunners that are reponsible for the impasse of finding genuine solutions to this violence with guns problem.
And going after millions and milions of gun owners who are not the problem....is knee jerk.
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I don't care about Pierre. Members of the NRA care about their freakin RIGHTS that they will NEVER GIVE UP.
That's it. That's all.
I'm fine with background checks. But kids who get their hands on guns that aren't theirs....
and go violent and shoot and murder people....
can any lib on this board see how background checks don't stop the kid?
So, if it doesn't stop the kid, doesn't stop criminals,
what in the HELL is the point then?
The only reasonable answer is....
anti gun foot in the door, Cass Sunstein "Nudge" disarming of Americans. That's the logical conclusion.
And don't bother disagreeing unless you have a genuine explanation about the hypocrisy of
"wanting a solution" that doesn't solve any alleged problem.
I don't care about Pierre. Members of the NRA care about their freakin RIGHTS that they will NEVER GIVE UP.
That's it. That's all.
I'm fine with background checks. But kids who get their hands on guns that aren't theirs....
and go violent and shoot and murder people....
can any lib on this board see how background checks don't stop the kid?
So, if it doesn't stop the kid, doesn't stop criminals,
what in the HELL is the point then?
The only reasonable answer is....
anti gun foot in the door, Cass Sunstein "Nudge" disarming of Americans. That's the logical conclusion.
And don't bother disagreeing unless you have a genuine explanation about the hypocrisy of
"wanting a solution" that doesn't solve any alleged problem.
Good. Let's disarm America then. I'm all in for that.
I'm done talking about this with you. We'll agree that our points of view can not and must not ever be rectified because I simply can't understand where your head is. It's in a dark place, that's for sure. I'll leave it to your imagination to decide where that dark place may be.
I've offered numerous small measures which could add up to a large reduction, but before we talk about any more of them I want you to just go ahead and admit that you won't support any single measure that would force any responsibility on any gun owner at all. Once we both admit that that is your position, we can talk about why there hasn't been a single positive step forward. It will be a short conversation.
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sad part is, you aren't kidding.
You are just venting, and refusing to admit your emotional outbursts are invalid.
You don't offer ANY kind of legit solution to the PROBLEM. NONE. zero any.
nada.
zilch.
But go ahead and scream that making magazines smaller by 5 or 10 rounds will stop even one violent murder from happening.
You know it won't, but the emotions are all that matter, lib style.
Too bad. It's knee jerks like the anti-gunners that are reponsible for the impasse of finding genuine solutions to this violence with guns problem.
And going after millions and milions of gun owners who are not the problem....is knee jerk.
sad part is, you aren't kidding.
You are just venting, and refusing to admit your emotional outbursts are invalid.
You don't offer ANY kind of legit solution to the PROBLEM. NONE. zero any.
nada.
zilch.
But go ahead and scream that making magazines smaller by 5 or 10 rounds will stop even one violent murder from happening.
You know it won't, but the emotions are all that matter, lib style.
Too bad. It's knee jerks like the anti-gunners that are reponsible for the impasse of finding genuine solutions to this violence with guns problem.
And going after millions and milions of gun owners who are not the problem....is knee jerk.
The emotion that I have is terrible terrible sadness for the parents of the newtown GUN massacre, coupled with anger at those who think their toy is more important than those children's lives. The one you have is anger coupled with insecurity and crippling paranoia that the evil Marxist brownshirts are going to take your toy away.
So when you're complaining about EMOTING feel free to read that above statement which is an amalgram of everything you say on every subject. Useless, emoting, spouting rhetoric. I don't think ill accept your EMOTING arguement anymore. It would imply that you're logical. You're anything but logical.
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bs.
American gun owners have absolutely NO responsibility for these murders.
No more than you are responsible for some nutjob crashing his car into a bunch of school children on a picnic.
Or, would you feel that "something must be done" so you would give up your car, because that killer used one,
and you'd go through your life on a tricycle?
Of course, I'd say that is inane, but you might actually consider it seriously to make a difference.
After all, pass all sorts of laws against transportation, especially cars.
The killer will have a car anyways.
So, you getting rid of your car was all for nothing. If you won't see this, then continue emoting and lashing out hysterically on the issue -
but you haven't even for a sec, considered a genuine SOLUTION to the problem.
Perhaps a tricycle is more your style, emoter and lashingouter.
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bs.
American gun owners have absolutely NO responsibility for these murders.
No more than you are responsible for some nutjob crashing his car into a bunch of school children on a picnic.
Or, would you feel that "something must be done" so you would give up your car, because that killer used one,
and you'd go through your life on a tricycle?
Of course, I'd say that is inane, but you might actually consider it seriously to make a difference.
After all, pass all sorts of laws against transportation, especially cars.
The killer will have a car anyways.
So, you getting rid of your car was all for nothing. If you won't see this, then continue emoting and lashing out hysterically on the issue -
but you haven't even for a sec, considered a genuine SOLUTION to the problem.
Perhaps a tricycle is more your style, emoter and lashingouter.
bs.
American gun owners have absolutely NO responsibility for these murders.
No more than you are responsible for some nutjob crashing his car into a bunch of school children on a picnic.
Or, would you feel that "something must be done" so you would give up your car, because that killer used one,
and you'd go through your life on a tricycle?
Of course, I'd say that is inane, but you might actually consider it seriously to make a difference.
After all, pass all sorts of laws against transportation, especially cars.
The killer will have a car anyways.
So, you getting rid of your car was all for nothing. If you won't see this, then continue emoting and lashing out hysterically on the issue -
but you haven't even for a sec, considered a genuine SOLUTION to the problem.
Perhaps a tricycle is more your style, emoter and lashingouter.
A little test for you:
1. I believe barack Obama is a Marxist freedom hating Nazi who wants to erode all my rights to fulfill his lust for power.
A: yes
B: no
2. I consider myself a rational person and a logical thinker.
A: yes
B: no
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bs.
American gun owners have absolutely NO responsibility for these murders.
No more than you are responsible for some nutjob crashing his car into a bunch of school children on a picnic.
Or, would you feel that "something must be done" so you would give up your car, because that killer used one,
and you'd go through your life on a tricycle?
Of course, I'd say that is inane, but you might actually consider it seriously to make a difference.
After all, pass all sorts of laws against transportation, especially cars.
The killer will have a car anyways.
So, you getting rid of your car was all for nothing. If you won't see this, then continue emoting and lashing out hysterically on the issue -
but you haven't even for a sec, considered a genuine SOLUTION to the problem.
Perhaps a tricycle is more your style, emoter and lashingouter.
A little test for you:
1. I believe barack Obama is a Marxist freedom hating Nazi who wants to erode all my rights to fulfill his lust for power.
A: yes
B: no
2. I consider myself a rational person and a logical thinker.
A: yes
B: no
A little test for you:
1. I believe Wayne LaPierre is a Totalitarian child-hating scumbag who wants to trade the lives of children to fulfill his lust for power.
A: yes
B: no
2. I consider myself a rational person and a logical thinker.
A: yes
B: no
Fixed.
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Do you know the meaning of totaltarian? I thought you were a smart guy, but that sentance makes no sense.
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Wow.
You've essentially stated (paraphrasing) laPierre only seeks to arm and control the citizens of the US "with those toys" because he's in the gun manufacturers pocket.
Scholars such as Lawrence Aronsen, Richard Pipes, Leopold Labedz, Franz Borkenau, Walter Laqueur, Karl Popper, Eckhard Jesse, Leonard Schapiro, Adam Ulam, Raymond Aron, Claude Lefort, Richard Löwenthal, Hannah Arendt, Robert Conquest, Karl Dietrich Bracher, Carl Joachim Friedrich and Juan Linz describe totalitarianism in slightly different ways. They all agree, however, that totalitarianism seeks to mobilize entire populations in support of an official state ideology, and is intolerant of activities which are not directed towards the goals of the state, entailing repression or state control of business, labour unions, churches or political parties.
Is it that hard for you to separate the NRA organization and political "state" in your imagination? They share similar structure and mechanisms. Not everyone on this board is trying to immediately compare everything with Hitler, Mao, or Stalin.
Try and keep up.
It was also a joke pointing out your emotionally induced hysteria is no different from the constant barrage of ObamMao etc.
Holy shit.
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Wow.
You've essentially stated (paraphrasing) laPierre only seeks to arm and control the citizens of the US "with those toys" because he's in the gun manufacturers pocket.
Scholars such as Lawrence Aronsen, Richard Pipes, Leopold Labedz, Franz Borkenau, Walter Laqueur, Karl Popper, Eckhard Jesse, Leonard Schapiro, Adam Ulam, Raymond Aron, Claude Lefort, Richard Löwenthal, Hannah Arendt, Robert Conquest, Karl Dietrich Bracher, Carl Joachim Friedrich and Juan Linz describe totalitarianism in slightly different ways. They all agree, however, that totalitarianism seeks to mobilize entire populations in support of an official state ideology, and is intolerant of activities which are not directed towards the goals of the state, entailing repression or state control of business, labour unions, churches or political parties.
Is it that hard for you to separate the NRA organization and political "state" in your imagination? They share similar structure and mechanisms. Not everyone on this board is trying to immediately compare everything with Hitler, Mao, or Stalin.
Try and keep up.
It was also a joke pointing out your emotionally induced hysteria is no different from the constant barrage of ObamMao etc.
Holy shit.
Wow.
You've essentially stated (paraphrasing) laPierre only seeks to arm and control the citizens of the US "with those toys" because he's in the gun manufacturers pocket.
Is it that hard for you to separate the NRA organization and political "state" in your imagination? They share similar structure and mechanisms. Not everyone on this board is trying to immediately compare everything with Hitler, Mao, or Stalin.
Try and keep up.
It was also a joke pointing out your emotionally induced hysteria is no different from the constant barrage of ObamMao etc.
Holy shit.
Good try, still doesn't work.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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