Combine Impressions
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I figured I'd put up a thread on the combine since there's not much else to talk about. I watched a decent bit of yesterday with the QB's and WR's and the only thing that stood out is there is flat out speed in this year's class. Shit, two OL ran a 4.6 and a 4.7. Before you all blast me I don't take 40 times as a basis for drafting people, but it's amazing how fast athletes are becoming. I think 5? WR's ran sub 4.4's and Gooodwin from Texas clearly ran a tad quicker than his 4.27 official time.
The only other thing that stood out was a few interviews with Geno Smith. He impressed me with his ability to say the right things despite basically being told he's the best of the worst for the QB class. I also was impressed with the fact he put himself out there to throw/run because top prospect QB's typically dodge the combine. I'm not sure if the rumors are true but if Alex Smith heads to the Chiefs Geno might be sitting there at 6. He did also say he met with the Browns in an interview FWIW.
Also another random note: Steve Breaston meeting with the Browns Tuesday. That would definitely upgrade our slot receiver position.
Also another random note: Steve Breaston meeting with the Browns Tuesday. That would definitely upgrade our slot receiver position.
Blows. Sign Brian Hartline.
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Here's just a fun tidbit I yanked from an article. God Bless the raiders haha:
"Interestingly, there appears to be a chance that whoever gets the top billing will play for the Oakland Raiders at some point in his career. As Rovell notes, the player who posted the top time in four of the past six Combines has played for the Raiders. Oakland drafted DeMarcus Van Dyke (2011), Jacoby Ford (2010) and Darrius Heyward-Bey (2009) and signed Yamon Figurs (2007) in 2010."
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Mr. Moore did not help him self this weekend. 12 how the hell does a 248lb de/olb only get 12 reps @225
Mr. Moore did not help him self this weekend. 12 how the hell does a 248lb de/olb only get 12 reps @225
who is moore?
mingo baby!
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defensive backfield day! WOO HOO!!
gonna be interesting to see who flops (like teo' did yesterday) and who impresses.
teo' will be lucky to get drafted in the first round after yesterday's showing. he better juice up between now and his pro day.wonder if all the media attention has fucked with his mind so much that he suddenly has become mediocre (not saying that he wasn't all along). i tell you what he should sue the fuck out of that fruit that fucked up his whole life and embarrassed him on a national stage.
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Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
i'm not saying he won't be a good linebacker. i was listening to a couple of former GMs talk about, based on the numbers he put up yesterday, if he could be a 3 down LB. if he can't his stock goes way down.
overall my point was that in recent years, no one has come in more touted at their position than teo' and he basically shit the bed. but he wasn't the only one.
i'm interested to see what mathieu is gonna do today.
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Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
Maybe he isn't....but apparently GMs around the league are.
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Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
I heard a really interesting piece about 40 times and LB's in the NFL. Bill Polian actually alluded to this on Sportscenter this morning too. I can't recall exactly but a significant amount of starting OLB's (which he will play in the NFL) ran under a 4.7 I know he ran a 4.8 which is very close but GM's use it a fair tool, especially evaluating potential 3-4 outside guys.
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Dee Milliner ran a 4.31 40 his morning. Is he still in the discussion at 6?
I would think so. I have checked and only like 20 guys have ever run a faster 40 time in the official history of the combine...though that official history only goes back to like 1999. Here is the list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash
For what its worth. Some of these great, fast players haven't been worth spit in the NFL. Others certainly have.
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Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
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Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
Endymion said:
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
It's not like he was getting much help from the rest of his team in that game. They were outplayed in every single position and facet of the game. I think he could be a solid guy in the NFL. Not a world-beater, but he may make a Pro Bowl in his career, depending on where he goes.
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Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
Endymion said:
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
i don't know about the gay thing being a concern. i mean you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a fag nowadays.
anyways.... i think in teo's case it's all about the numbers and his exaggeration of what he was doing in his workouts before the combine. i think he is just feeling the pressure from everyone staring at him. he was smiling like a chesire cat after putting up 4.81 40 time.
i don't know about you but if i just lost millions of dollars because i under-performed at something, i'd be quite pissed.
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Yeah, homophobia aside...
I think everyone is putting too much stock into that gf thing
Film is film
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Are people really putting that much stock in Teo's 40?
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
Endymion said:
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
Easy there, Drama Queen.
I watched that segment and Harbs looked disappointed that Te'o didn't have another gear ... disgusted? WTF.
What do you mean by many teams think he is "gay"? Why is gay in quotes? Entire teams think he is gay? Many of them?
Did you check your sources at TMZ.com?
It'll come down to what happened between the white lines when he lined up as the leader of ND's defense, it always comes down to the football. The film.
Zombo
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Endymion said:
John Harbaugh apparently is, or at least acted disqusted by Te'os poor 40 time. Apparently, both the Steelers and Ravens are interested in Te'o (to replace Farrior or Lewis respectively). Many teams will shy away from Te'o, because they believe he is "gay" due to his imaginary girlfriend scandal, per profootballtalk.com.
Even though a preponderence of Yinzers seem to want Te'o, I hope the Steelers stay far, far away from him. He's not worth a 1st round pick, maybe worth a gamble in the 3rd or 4th rounds. Against Pitt and Alabama he was of no impact, with the latter being as close to an NFL team as college gets. Hopefully, people in the Steelers organization are putting stock in his 40 time and moving him way down on their draft boards.
Easy there, Drama Queen.
I watched that segment and Harbs looked disappointed that Te'o didn't have another gear ... disgusted? WTF.
What do you mean by many teams think he is "gay"? Why is gay in quotes? Entire teams think he is gay? Many of them?
Did you check your sources at TMZ.com?
It'll come down to what happened between the white lines when he lined up as the leader of ND's defense, it always comes down to the football. The film.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Easy there, Drama Queen.
I watched that segment and Harbs looked disappointed that Te'o didn't have another gear ... disgusted? WTF.
What do you mean by many teams think he is "gay"? Why is gay in quotes? Entire teams think he is gay? Many of them?
Did you check your sources at TMZ.com?
It'll come down to what happened between the white lines when he lined up as the leader of ND's defense, it always comes down to the football. The film.
Zombo
Hey Golden Domer Homer- I agree with Endy our Steeler friend- I wouldn't touch T'eo even in the third round. I still have Brady Quinn phobia about over-rated Notre Dame guys. Ya, Ray Lewis slid because of a lousy 40 time, but damn man- 4.8 is SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWW for a LB in today's NFL. He'll get eaten alive in pass coverage, every down. I'd say 90%+ of NFL TEs can run at least that fast, and any slug slot receiver will be wide open by two steps if they isolate on him.
Other than the speed issue Z, if you watched the 'Bama game he was getting his ass blown out of the picture on virtually every play. That's what killed Mike Junkin and Tom Cousineau- inability to shed blocks. Should I add he over pursued and took bad angles the whole game too? Sure it was just one game, but it was a total stinker.
I don't think the phony girlfriend thing will scare off most teams- but if he does lousy on the bench press at his Pro Day, it sure will.
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With the sixth pick in the 2013 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns select....Leon Sandcastle
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Zombo said:
Easy there, Drama Queen.
I watched that segment and Harbs looked disappointed that Te'o didn't have another gear ... disgusted? WTF.
What do you mean by many teams think he is "gay"? Why is gay in quotes? Entire teams think he is gay? Many of them?
Did you check your sources at TMZ.com?
It'll come down to what happened between the white lines when he lined up as the leader of ND's defense, it always comes down to the football. The film.
Zombo
Hey Golden Domer Homer- I agree with Endy our Steeler friend- I wouldn't touch T'eo even in the third round. I still have Brady Quinn phobia about over-rated Notre Dame guys. Ya, Ray Lewis slid because of a lousy 40 time, but damn man- 4.8 is SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWW for a LB in today's NFL. He'll get eaten alive in pass coverage, every down. I'd say 90%+ of NFL TEs can run at least that fast, and any slug slot receiver will be wide open by two steps if they isolate on him.
Other than the speed issue Z, if you watched the 'Bama game he was getting his ass blown out of the picture on virtually every play. That's what killed Mike Junkin and Tom Cousineau- inability to shed blocks. Should I add he over pursued and took bad angles the whole game too? Sure it was just one game, but it was a total stinker.
I don't think the phony girlfriend thing will scare off most teams- but if he does lousy on the bench press at his Pro Day, it sure will.
Hey Golden Domer Homer- I agree with Endy our Steeler friend- I wouldn't touch T'eo even in the third round. I still have Brady Quinn phobia about over-rated Notre Dame guys. Ya, Ray Lewis slid because of a lousy 40 time, but damn man- 4.8 is SSSSSLLLLLOOOOOWWWWWW for a LB in today's NFL. He'll get eaten alive in pass coverage, every down. I'd say 90%+ of NFL TEs can run at least that fast, and any slug slot receiver will be wide open by two steps if they isolate on him.
Other than the speed issue Z, if you watched the 'Bama game he was getting his ass blown out of the picture on virtually every play. That's what killed Mike Junkin and Tom Cousineau- inability to shed blocks. Should I add he over pursued and took bad angles the whole game too? Sure it was just one game, but it was a total stinker.
I'm not a T'eo fan, I was mocking the Steeler fan for the Entertainment Tonight-like scouting report.
I'm saying it will come down to the football. However much he impresses on film, that's where he'll get drafted.
Zombo
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