White House Threatens Bob Woodward
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And we're back to changing the subject.
Steve, simple question: was the man threatened by the White House? Does that email sound threatening at all to you?
Second simple question: Did Woodward go out and suggest to the public that he'd been threatened by the White House?
Seems clear to me that the answers are no, not at all, and yes. But tell me how it looks from the Republican alternate reality.
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And imagine how laughable/frustrating it is to have someone make a claim, have that claim turn out not to be true, and then for me to point out that said person's claim wasn't true, and then get attacked for pointing out that what wasn't true wasn't true.
Way to be on the side of truth, bud.
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And then, if you want, we can get to who is right about the sequester, Sperling or Woodward, because that one seems pretty clear to me, too.
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Heck, seriously, it looks like you're going off the deep end over this.
Anyway a good thing about it is that if Woodward turns up missing there will probably at least be an investigation...
WSS
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Oh and to answer your questions: how about maybe, and not particularly but it's possible you choose the order?
I'm just pointing out the fact that the left has gone insane over this.
1 of their own suggested that maybe the president hasn't been totally honest in 1 of his many talking points?
Give us Barabbas!!!!!
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You have totally lost your mind.
A guy claims something. That something becomes a big talking point on the right. Except that it turns out it wasn't true. And now pointing out that it wasn't true is "going insane." How about figuring out which is true? Is that enough for you? Apparently not. That's not the goal. As we know, the goal is hating liberals.
Can't get in the way of that.
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So again, was Woodward threatened by the White House in that email, as Woodward claimed. Yes or no?
And here he is claiming that he was:
Digging into one of his famous folders, Woodward said the tirade [from a White House official] was followed by a page-long email from the aide, one of the four or five administration officials most closely involved in the fiscal negotiations with the Hill. “I apologize for raising my voice in our conversation today,” the official typed. “You’re focusing on a few specific trees that give a very wrong impression of the forest. But perhaps we will just not see eye to eye here. … I think you will regret staking out that claim.”
Woodward repeated the last sentence, making clear he saw it as a veiled threat. “ ‘You’ll regret.’ Come on,” he said. “I think if Obama himself saw the way they’re dealing with some of this, he would say, ‘Whoa, we don’t tell any reporter ‘you’re going to regret challenging us.’”
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Try not to pull your hair out Heck
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Steve likes to employ one the hack's old tricks, which is when you're backed up ask, "Why are you so angry?" Hannity plays it just about every night. It doesn't mean I'm angry. It means he's backed up.
This is a pretty simple one. If he could answer he'd have something to say other than accusing me of "going off the deep end" or pretending that pointing out that Woodward was wrong is somehow wild, irrational behavior, or character assassination. I just find it entertaining when they refuse to admit the obvious. It's the party in nutshell - they live in their own reality. The fact that Woodward has been publicly exposed today leaving just about everyone - including many people on the right - wondering why he put himself in this position given his career and reputation is not the issue. It's the people who are going after him who are going off the deep end! That's the story!
I've got all of my hair, don't you worry.
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Good. I know this shit gets old
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These two deserve each other, but go to about 40 seconds in and you'll see the old trick.
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yawn.
Heckbunker does more quibbling over words' definitions blah blah blah.
He would take the opposite side if Bush and co. had issued an email
saying "you'll regret" or something.
THEN it would be "sets a dangerous precedent, puts America on alert of censorship of the media,
our protection from corruption in the highest levels of gov."
But no...
now, with his fave Obamao, it's "haha".
hyprocrisy = heckbunker
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Hard to determine the tone of the "tirade" that preceded the email, but that looks like a normal friend-to-friend exchange of advice.
Maybe Woodward in his mind combined both the "tirade" and the email, but the email alone is not threatening.
At all.
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Well I freely admit that I picked up that tactic from a hack, namely you, but it sure seems true here!
You've posted enough copy on this subject to make me think you're charging by the word.
And a simple Google search should be easy enough for anyone with even as much intelligence as woody.
Check out all the liberal pundits who are now sniping at Bob Woodward.
Including White House staffers.
Here is another hack ploy : trying to take attention away from the administrations dishonesty by attacking Woodward.
But, sir, I am actually surprised that you watch Sean Hannity every night.
Do you believe Woodward was the target of an angry dressing down prior to the email?
A simple yes or no will be fine.
WSS
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Well I freely admit that I picked up that tactic from a hack, namely you, but it sure seems true here!
You've posted enough copy on this subject to make me think you're charging by the word.
And a simple Google search should be easy enough for anyone with even as much intelligence as woody.
Check out all the liberal pundits who are now sniping at Bob Woodward.
Including White House staffers.
Here is another hack ploy : trying to take attention away from the administrations dishonesty by attacking Woodward.
But, sir, I am actually surprised that you watch Sean Hannity every night.
Do you believe Woodward was the target of an angry dressing down prior to the email?
A simple yes or no will be fine.
WSS
Well I freely admit that I picked up that tactic from a hack, namely you, but it sure seems true here!
You've posted enough copy on this subject to make me think you're charging by the word.
And a simple Google search should be easy enough for anyone with even as much intelligence as woody.
Check out all the liberal pundits who are now sniping at Bob Woodward.
Including White House staffers.
Here is another hack ploy : trying to take attention away from the administrations dishonesty by attacking Woodward.
But, sir, I am actually surprised that you watch Sean Hannity every night.
Do you believe Woodward was the target of an angry dressing down prior to the email?
A simple yes or no will be fine.
WSS
LOL!
ZING! you cant add to this perfect take on the deal!
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Heck gets buttkicking ZING by Steve again ! Yay ! "haha" !
(btw, I started a thread on this, but heckbunker had to start another one. go figure....
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Well I freely admit that I picked up that tactic from a hack, namely you, but it sure seems true here!
You've posted enough copy on this subject to make me think you're charging by the word.
And a simple Google search should be easy enough for anyone with even as much intelligence as woody.
Check out all the liberal pundits who are now sniping at Bob Woodward.
Including White House staffers.
Here is another hack ploy : trying to take attention away from the administrations dishonesty by attacking Woodward.
But, sir, I am actually surprised that you watch Sean Hannity every night.
Do you believe Woodward was the target of an angry dressing down prior to the email?
A simple yes or no will be fine.
WSS
Well I freely admit that I picked up that tactic from a hack, namely you, but it sure seems true here!
You've posted enough copy on this subject to make me think you're charging by the word.
And a simple Google search should be easy enough for anyone with even as much intelligence as woody.
Check out all the liberal pundits who are now sniping at Bob Woodward.
Including White House staffers.
Here is another hack ploy : trying to take attention away from the administrations dishonesty by attacking Woodward.
But, sir, I am actually surprised that you watch Sean Hannity every night.
Do you believe Woodward was the target of an angry dressing down prior to the email?
A simple yes or no will be fine.
WSS
Oh, God. I know you are but what am I? Again?? Really?
Don't watch Hannity every night either. That clip was everywhere. And you don't need to watch him very long to see how often he pulls that trick. "You seem so upset? Why are you upset? When I'm just sitting here with my shit-eating grin." This is also something you do routinely. I can't tell you how many times I've written, "No, Steve, I'm not angry. I'm just fine, thanks." And your response? YOU pull that trick all the time! I learned it from watching you! Haha. You're something else.
As for all of that copy I'm posting, so I must be crazy, I don't think the facts back you up there either, do they? It's not a very long thread, and it's got a couple cut and pastes in it.
And then you refused to answer my yes or no by ...asking a yes or no.
Which I'm happy to answer. Yes, it seems Sperling and Woodward got in an argument. So what? That's not the issue. That's you changing the subject. (Again.) Politicians and their staffs get in disagreements with the press all the time. It's not news.
The issue is whether or not Sperling threatened Woodward, as he claimed. That's the news story. And if this is just a hack ploy to try and take away from the focus on the administration's threatening of a veteran DC journalist by ...pointing out and proving that they didn't threaten a veteran DC journalist, I guess you'll just have to admit what I said earlier: the point for you is not to establish truth or fact. The point is to hate liberals.
You are really something else. Especially when the thing you're accusing me of doing, to avoid talking about "the administration's dishonesty"... is something I said I'd be happy to talk about here.
Whoops.
And you see, Steve, I don't think they're wrong about Woodward's claim. I think Sperling is right. I think it's pretty clear that Sperling is right.
So again, I'll try one more time: Did the White House threaten Woodward? When Woodward says they told him "he'd regret this" was he being threatened? Yes or no.
I know in your world when the right-wing makes a charge, en masse, from Fox to Drudge to talk radio, including someone starting a thread in here about it, if liberal pundits point out that it's not true that's the fault of the liberal pundits somehow, but that's because you've lost your mind.
"Look at all of those liberal pundits pointing out why Woodward was wrong, and wondering why Woodward would peddle such a faslehood! What hacks??"
Sorry, bud. On this one, you're just all kinds of lost. And wrong. And there's no amount of retreating or changing the subject or high school debating tricks that can save you.
Works with the Cals of the world though. I'm just saying that should tell you something. And now I've taken up five minutes of my morning that I'll never get back.
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Well I freely admit that I picked up that tactic from a hack, namely you, but it sure seems true here!
You've posted enough copy on this subject to make me think you're charging by the word.
And a simple Google search should be easy enough for anyone with even as much intelligence as woody.
Check out all the liberal pundits who are now sniping at Bob Woodward.
Including White House staffers.
Here is another hack ploy : trying to take attention away from the administrations dishonesty by attacking Woodward.
But, sir, I am actually surprised that you watch Sean Hannity every night.
Do you believe Woodward was the target of an angry dressing down prior to the email?
A simple yes or no will be fine.
WSS
Oh, God. I know you are but what am I? Again?? Really?
Don't watch Hannity every night either. That clip was everywhere. And you don't need to watch him very long to see how often he pulls that trick. "You seem so upset? Why are you upset? When I'm just sitting here with my shit-eating grin." This is also something you do routinely. I can't tell you how many times I've written, "No, Steve, I'm not angry. I'm just fine, thanks." And your response? YOU pull that trick all the time! I learned it from watching you! Haha. You're something else.
As for all of that copy I'm posting, so I must be crazy, I don't think the facts back you up there either, do they? It's not a very long thread, and it's got a couple cut and pastes in it.
And then you refused to answer my yes or no by ...asking a yes or no.
Which I'm happy to answer. Yes, it seems Sperling and Woodward got in an argument. So what? That's not the issue. That's you changing the subject. (Again.) Politicians and their staffs get in disagreements with the press all the time. It's not news.
The issue is whether or not Sperling threatened Woodward, as he claimed. That's the news story. And if this is just a hack ploy to try and take away from the focus on the administration's threatening of a veteran DC journalist by ...pointing out and proving that they didn't threaten a veteran DC journalist, I guess you'll just have to admit what I said earlier: the point for you is not to establish truth or fact. The point is to hate liberals.
You are really something else. Especially when the thing you're accusing me of doing, to avoid talking about "the administration's dishonesty"... is something I said I'd be happy to talk about here.
Whoops.
And you see, Steve, I don't think they're wrong about Woodward's claim. I think Sperling is right. I think it's pretty clear that Sperling is right.
So again, I'll try one more time: Did the White House threaten Woodward? When Woodward says they told him "he'd regret this" was he being threatened? Yes or no.
I know in your world when the right-wing makes a charge, en masse, from Fox to Drudge to talk radio, including someone starting a thread in here about it, if liberal pundits point out that it's not true that's the fault of the liberal pundits somehow, but that's because you've lost your mind.
"Look at all of those liberal pundits pointing out why Woodward was wrong, and wondering why Woodward would peddle such a faslehood! What hacks??"
Sorry, bud. On this one, you're just all kinds of lost. And wrong. And there's no amount of retreating or changing the subject or high school debating tricks that can save you.
Works with the Cals of the world though. I'm just saying that should tell you something. And now I've taken up five minutes of my morning that I'll never get back.
So again, I'll try one more time: Did the White House threaten Woodward? When Woodward says they told him "he'd regret this" was he being threatened? Yes or no.
In the email? No. Not at all.
In the tirade preceding the email? We don't know.
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Steve likes to employ one the hack's old tricks, which is when you're backed up ask, "Why are you so angry?" Hannity plays it just about every night. It doesn't mean I'm angry. It means he's backed up.
This is a pretty simple one. If he could answer he'd have something to say other than accusing me of "going off the deep end" or pretending that pointing out that Woodward was wrong is somehow wild, irrational behavior, or character assassination. I just find it entertaining when they refuse to admit the obvious. It's the party in nutshell - they live in their own reality. The fact that Woodward has been publicly exposed today leaving just about everyone - including many people on the right - wondering why he put himself in this position given his career and reputation is not the issue. It's the people who are going after him who are going off the deep end! That's the story!
I've got all of my hair, don't you worry.
Steve likes to employ one the hack's old tricks, which is when you're backed up ask, "Why are you so angry?" Hannity plays it just about every night. It doesn't mean I'm angry. It means he's backed up.
This is a pretty simple one. If he could answer he'd have something to say other than accusing me of "going off the deep end" or pretending that pointing out that Woodward was wrong is somehow wild, irrational behavior, or character assassination. I just find it entertaining when they refuse to admit the obvious. It's the party in nutshell - they live in their own reality. The fact that Woodward has been publicly exposed today leaving just about everyone - including many people on the right - wondering why he put himself in this position given his career and reputation is not the issue. It's the people who are going after him who are going off the deep end! That's the story!
I've got all of my hair, don't you worry.
That's the post that says Hannity does it almost every night.
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