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Should We Consider The Honey Badger?

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  • Mathieu will probably be available with our pick at the top of the 5th round.. I'd take a shot on him then, but only then.

    We will have the opportunity to draft either WR Wilson from WSU or Woods from USC with our 3rd-round pick

    In the 4th I'd like to see them grab another DE/OLB

  • Mathieu will probably be available with our pick at the top of the 5th round.. I'd take a shot on him then, but only then.

    We will have the opportunity to draft either WR Wilson from WSU or Woods from USC with our 3rd-round pick

    In the 4th I'd like to see them grab another DE/OLB

    @unsympathetic said:

    Mathieu will probably be available with our pick at the top of the 5th round.. I'd take a shot on him then, but only then.

    We will have the opportunity to draft either WR Wilson from WSU or Woods from USC with our 3rd-round pick

    In the 4th I'd like to see them grab another DE/OLB

    dude. this just shows me how out of touch you are right now with what's going on pre-draft.

    mathieu will be gone before the 3rd.

    guaranteed.

  • Ironic coming from you

  • Ironic coming from you

    @choco said:

    Ironic coming from you

    glad to see you back with your always insightful views.

    wtf is ironic about it?

    this board would be dead without mundane off season gibberish, but you'll bash those who bleed brown and orange year long and those who disagree or in your oz-like mind are below you.

    you (and others) always hate when people speak from their hearts. go back to where you were for all these glorious days tin man.

  • Pass, from what I've read he was able to take chances because he had great players at lsu to back him up. Plus when was the last time deion saunders said a guy was the real deal and turned out to be a average player.... anyone remember how much he pimped crabtree.

  • I'm tired if staying away from athletic guys because they have character concerns. Not saying Mathieu is worth it, but ruling him out because of his off the field issues is stupid. Rule the guy out based on his performance.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'm tired if staying away from athletic guys because they have character concerns. Not saying Mathieu is worth it, but ruling him out because of his off the field issues is stupid. Rule the guy out based on his performance.

    I never said not to take him because of character issues. Those are (IMHO) real, but I rule him out & so stated, because of what I see as performance shortcomings. He had pretty average showings at the combine & the WORST in lifting. He may not have been able to play last year, but he sure as hell could have (and should have!) worked out on his own. I'm just not a fan of a guy as small as he is not being outstanding in ANY other measured area. I DO rule him out based on what I see as a lack of ability to perform at a high level in the NFL coupled with his lack of maturity (again, as I see it). He will play against MUCH tougher competition at the next level. In the 1st 3 rounds, we need as close to "can't miss" guys as possible. He is NOT in that group. Simply too many question marks & flags for me.

    Mike

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I'm tired if staying away from athletic guys because they have character concerns. Not saying Mathieu is worth it, but ruling him out because of his off the field issues is stupid. Rule the guy out based on his performance.

    I never said not to take him because of character issues. Those are (IMHO) real, but I rule him out & so stated, because of what I see as performance shortcomings. He had pretty average showings at the combine & the WORST in lifting. He may not have been able to play last year, but he sure as hell could have (and should have!) worked out on his own. I'm just not a fan of a guy as small as he is not being outstanding in ANY other measured area. I DO rule him out based on what I see as a lack of ability to perform at a high level in the NFL coupled with his lack of maturity (again, as I see it). He will play against MUCH tougher competition at the next level. In the 1st 3 rounds, we need as close to "can't miss" guys as possible. He is NOT in that group. Simply too many question marks & flags for me.

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I never said not to take him because of character issues. Those are (IMHO) real, but I rule him out & so stated, because of what I see as performance shortcomings. He had pretty average showings at the combine & the WORST in lifting. He may not have been able to play last year, but he sure as hell could have (and should have!) worked out on his own. I'm just not a fan of a guy as small as he is not being outstanding in ANY other measured area. I DO rule him out based on what I see as a lack of ability to perform at a high level in the NFL coupled with his lack of maturity (again, as I see it). He will play against MUCH tougher competition at the next level. In the 1st 3 rounds, we need as close to "can't miss" guys as possible. He is NOT in that group. Simply too many question marks & flags for me.

    Mike

    And I agree. As i've said, I don't think he'll have any viable success in the NFL. He's too small, too weak, and not unremarkably fast.

    But this practice of shying away from college guys because they've had experiences with drugs or alcohol has got to stop. It's ridiculous.

    Talent is talent is talent is talent. You don't win games by having the most moral roster.

  • you could be thought of being clean -as -a-whistle coming in from the college ranks and become the biggest douchebag off the field once getting to the NFL but still be a stud on the field. ask lawrence taylor and michael irving just to name a few.

  • Pass, from what I've read he was able to take chances because he had great players at lsu to back him up. Plus when was the last time deion saunders said a guy was the real deal and turned out to be a average player.... anyone remember how much he pimped crabtree.

    @erie-dawg said:

    Pass, from what I've read he was able to take chances because he had great players at lsu to back him up. Plus when was the last time deion saunders said a guy was the real deal and turned out to be a average player.... anyone remember how much he pimped crabtree.

    wait to c what crabtree does in 2013.
  • @canton-mike said:

    I never said not to take him because of character issues. Those are (IMHO) real, but I rule him out & so stated, because of what I see as performance shortcomings. He had pretty average showings at the combine & the WORST in lifting. He may not have been able to play last year, but he sure as hell could have (and should have!) worked out on his own. I'm just not a fan of a guy as small as he is not being outstanding in ANY other measured area. I DO rule him out based on what I see as a lack of ability to perform at a high level in the NFL coupled with his lack of maturity (again, as I see it). He will play against MUCH tougher competition at the next level. In the 1st 3 rounds, we need as close to "can't miss" guys as possible. He is NOT in that group. Simply too many question marks & flags for me.

    Mike

    And I agree. As i've said, I don't think he'll have any viable success in the NFL. He's too small, too weak, and not unremarkably fast.

    But this practice of shying away from college guys because they've had experiences with drugs or alcohol has got to stop. It's ridiculous.

    Talent is talent is talent is talent. You don't win games by having the most moral roster.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    And I agree. As i've said, I don't think he'll have any viable success in the NFL. He's too small, too weak, and not unremarkably fast.

    But this practice of shying away from college guys because they've had experiences with drugs or alcohol has got to stop. It's ridiculous.

    Talent is talent is talent is talent. You don't win games by having the most moral roster.

    he reminds me of c finagan