I Love Uniform Talk

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@the-gipper said:

Well, that same kind of "gutting" is what was planned for Cleveland Muni.

On the Jags lease...that new lease deal must have just been made as I understood their lease was going to expire.

But, yea, their whole problems could probably be solved by winning...or bringing in Tim Tebow...which I understand they are NOT going to do, are they?

And is the London deal going to really be all that much of a financial boon to them? I personally would not think so.

I would have loved to have them gut the Muni. One wish I always had was to attend a Browns game in the Muni, just like my dad used to.

There's a clause in the Jags lease that stipulates if the team finishes in the red in one season, and then below league average for each of the next two seasons, they can opt out of their lease and only have to pay 60% of the aforementioned fees. Weaver stated that the team had finished in the red twice under his ownership but declined to reveal exactly what seasons they were. They keep a tight lid on their books, but it was rumored that they finished last season in the red, and I believe that's where a majority of the relocation talk originated.

I don't think the London deal will really affect them that much, but every new fan is one more they didn't have previously. Unfortunately, fan numbers don't always translate into ticket sales...especially when your fans are across the pond.

Winning will solve everything, of course. But until they can field a solid winner they need to try other tactics to get fans in the stands. With the exception of MJD, the Jags are one of the most bland teams in the NFL. They've have relatively no-named coaches, less than electrifying play, and little to no national advertising. We are becoming more technological by the day. Integrating your product is key to creating memory links with the consumer. I can count the number of times on one hand I've seen the Jaguars or it's players in commercials or on television programs...and it is one time, when MJD was on an episode of The League. That's why I never understood any of these bottom dwelling teams (ourselves included) pushing to get on HBO's Hard Knocks. They need to make themselves enticing to the consumer, they have to sell themselves. I know I wouldn't buy them right now.

DieHardBrownsFan

@the-gipper said:

Well known Chargers fan:

I think it moved.

Cielo

Browns need to go ahead and copy Oregon States new uniforms, keep the helmet the same but use the orange from the helmet with the number.

Maybe change the gray for brown?

Tim Couch Pulls Out

Those jerseys are fucking amazing.

RoyceRolls

I've been in favor of leaving the helmet unchanged but this is starting to grow on me...

The Gipper

Not that impressed by those OSU jerseys. I have seen better renditions on here.

mdmusch

I actually really like the horizontal stripe idea for the Browns... Similar to Northwestern's Football Jerseys

Cielo

@the-gipper said:

Not that impressed by those OSU jerseys. I have seen better renditions on here.

Which ones were better?

The Gipper

@cielo said:

Which ones were better?

I can't identify them by name. Its just that over the years various people have put uniform renderings on here that I have preferred to those OR St. ones.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

I like this.

cuwoohio

@roycerolls said:

I've been in favor of leaving the helmet unchanged but this is starting to grow on me...

Love this..........

Shep

Love the new uni ideas. What's clear? Those are gorgeous colors, love to see them in all kinds of ways. I'm open to anything as long as it's seal and orange.

Favorite color in the world is that really, really deep brown, man. On cars, too. Gets deep inside you. Well, that sounded like a crap reference, but you know what I mean.

Zombo

Browns AL uniform patch will disappear this season

Jul 01, 2013 -- 9:45am

By Tony Grossi | ESPNCleveland.com

Major changes to the Browns uniform won’t happen until the 2015 season (that is going to be a long offseason around here with all of the uniform homos all aflitter) after two years of market research and design study by the NFL and apparel-maker NIKE.

But a minor change is coming this year.

ESPN Cleveland has confirmed that the AL patch will no longer be worn on the Browns uniform jersey. (Yea!)

The AL patch was added after former owner Al Lerner died in October of 2002. The team continued to wear it throughout the Lerner ownership.

When Jimmy Haslam purchased the Browns from the Lerner family in August of 2012, he agreed to keep the patch through the 2012 season. Now it will come off.

In March, Haslam initiated the process with the NFL marketing department to have everything about the Browns uniform reviewed. He told ESPN Cleveland, “I will say there will be no change to the helmet. But we will look at everything else. We may change a lot. We may change a little.”

The NFL, through an independent market research firm, has conducted interviews with Browns fans in Cleveland and via telephone as part of that process. Removing the AL patch, however, was a decision made before Haslam entered the extensive process of researching a complete uniform change.

Haslam said to ESPN Cleveland that he hopes to introduce the Browns' new uniform look prior to the 2015 draft. He just doesn't know how extensive it will be.

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=19501

nickers

At the rate Haslams luck is going we may never see any change lol

PoeticG

Brown, Orange and White Prison Stripes...

miktoxic

@cielo said:

Browns need to go ahead and copy Oregon States new uniforms, keep the helmet the same but use the orange from the helmet with the number.

Maybe change the gray for brown?

are you color blind?

orange white and black.

maybe the bengals can use it.

Zombo

All of you uniform homos can do something constructive and choose the Browns classic football look over Baltiwhore's purple abomination:

http://www.nfl.com/greatestuni?campaign=Facebook_vote_uni

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@miktoxic said:

are you color blind?

orange white and black.

maybe the bengals can use it.

Our Brown home jerseys lately are essentially almost black. Subbing in our brown home jerseys wouldn't be too big of a difference

Zombo can bitch all he wants, the jerseys will be changed in two years. Sorry, Charlie.

Why don't you all go debate for the umpteenth time whether or not Gipson sucks or whether Weeden will throw for less than 20 INT'S.

miktoxic

hey, i like the layout of the jersey, but what's that got to do with uniform change?

you change the block font to a different block font? add some sponsors names to it?

that ain't much of a 'change' brother.

the only thing i did like was the wider stripes on the helmet, of course keeping it within the browns' color scheme not oregon fuckin state.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@miktoxic said:

hey, i like the layout of the jersey, but what's that got to do with uniform change?

you change the block font to a different block font? add some sponsors names to it?

that ain't much of a 'change' brother.

the only thing i did like was the wider stripes on the helmet, of course keeping it within the browns' color scheme not oregon fuckin state.

Well, to me, that is the point. The Browns are known for their traditional jersey, just like the Packers.

Modernizing that look would be much more widely accepted than completely changing the jersey style.

Changing the number style and sharpening up the lines would go a long way toward making our jerseys look badass without changing the core of what makes us us.