Official Free Agency Activity Thread
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Deal is 5 years, $34 million.
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Big guy, but looks like he has a very solid build to play DE
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Thank god DA won't be coming back here.
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Trade Rubin for picks while stock is high?
"We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever. -
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Figure Taylor has higher ceiling. Rubin was a 4th rounder?
5th and he would still be considered one of the top NT in the league. Having said that I am sure they want to try Taylor at 3-4 DE or they will trade him cause they could easily get a mid 1st rounder out of him plus another mid round pick. Rubin, since he is older and has a bigger contract, wouldn't hold as much value. Having said that you don't trade the better of the two, so they will more than likely wait until they can bring guys into camp/preseason before they start trading. We could run Rubin at NT with Taylor and Bryant running DE with Winn and Hughes at reserve. Sounds great to me.
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Why are we getting rid of guys? This guy first perfectly. Winning and Hughes are depth.
Z
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Zombo said:
Why are we getting rid of guys? This guy first perfectly. Winning and Hughes are depth.
Z
My point exactly. If we make moves and trade guys, it won't be until after we have seen what they can do in the 3-4 or if we get a great offer. People want to lean on Winn, but he was a 6th rounder, who knows what he can do. We know what Bryant can do and that is play as one of the better 3-4 DE in the league.
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Now what... We fill two of our biggest holes in the transition to the 3-4.
Do we look for a S or CB now in FA? Do we need another OLB and where would he come from, draft or FA?
These signings really have me questioning what we will do in the draft...
Do we grab Warmack or Milliner to fill one of our other two needs? Do we grab Geno (I hope not)? Are we still players for Jordan, Jones or Anzah? Maybe we go with Cordelle Patterson? Trade back and go after Tyler Eifert?
Gonna be an interesting rest of FA.
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We need a lot of DB help, and we have to go after a CB and FS in FA IMHO.
We could also use help at WR, TE, G, ILB, and more OLB help.
I still see at least one more big FA to fill one of those spots.
As for the draft, I'm still thinking J.Jones, D.Jordan, or D.Milliner. I just can't see drafting a G at #6. However, we may be able to trade down 2 spots w/ BUF since they NEED to make sure they get their QB, after cutting Fitzpatrick. Then we could look at Patterson or Warmack at #8.
Too early for all the speculating, but this is starting to get exciting!!
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Trade Rubin for picks while stock is high?
At what point is that a good idea? Winn and Hughes are unproven. Taylor/Rubin/Bryant is a fearsome DL group, the D had significant problems shutting down the run last year, and Rubin is still on a reasonable contract for a difference-maker at his position.
Hughes and Winn are both smaller in size than Rubin and Bryant, and neither have played in the 3-4 in the pros.. so we can't say conclusively that both will be good. I want them to succeed, I hope they're great.. but we can't confirm that today.
Good pickup by the Browns FO: It will allow Hughes/Winn another year+ to learn the pro game.
Also: Did the browns shut down the run on any 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 last year? I can remember exactly zero times, and someone proposes we trade away one of our starting DT's when we have a need to improve our run defense? Bad idea. Yes, Rubin's value is high -- because he is good, and we should keep him for the same reason.
Another problem with the idea of "making a trade" is that there's always the magical fantasy that we will receive equal value in return. That almost never happens. Bill Simmons has a term for it.. the pu-pu platter.
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We need a lot of DB help, and we have to go after a CB and FS in FA IMHO.
We could also use help at WR, TE, G, ILB, and more OLB help.
I still see at least one more big FA to fill one of those spots.
As for the draft, I'm still thinking J.Jones, D.Jordan, or D.Milliner. I just can't see drafting a G at #6. However, we may be able to trade down 2 spots w/ BUF since they NEED to make sure they get their QB, after cutting Fitzpatrick. Then we could look at Patterson or Warmack at #8.
Too early for all the speculating, but this is starting to get exciting!!
We need a lot of DB help, and we have to go after a CB and FS in FA IMHO.
We could also use help at WR, TE, G, ILB, and more OLB help.
I still see at least one more big FA to fill one of those spots.
As for the draft, I'm still thinking J.Jones, D.Jordan, or D.Milliner. I just can't see drafting a G at #6. However, we may be able to trade down 2 spots w/ BUF since they NEED to make sure they get their QB, after cutting Fitzpatrick. Then we could look at Patterson or Warmack at #8.
Too early for all the speculating, but this is starting to get exciting!!
Also need a kicker and hopefully a new punter.
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We need a lot of DB help, and we have to go after a CB and FS in FA IMHO.
We could also use help at WR, TE, G, ILB, and more OLB help.
I still see at least one more big FA to fill one of those spots.
As for the draft, I'm still thinking J.Jones, D.Jordan, or D.Milliner. I just can't see drafting a G at #6. However, we may be able to trade down 2 spots w/ BUF since they NEED to make sure they get their QB, after cutting Fitzpatrick. Then we could look at Patterson or Warmack at #8.
Too early for all the speculating, but this is starting to get exciting!!
We need a lot of DB help, and we have to go after a CB and FS in FA IMHO.
We could also use help at WR, TE, G, ILB, and more OLB help.
I still see at least one more big FA to fill one of those spots.
As for the draft, I'm still thinking J.Jones, D.Jordan, or D.Milliner. I just can't see drafting a G at #6. However, we may be able to trade down 2 spots w/ BUF since they NEED to make sure they get their QB, after cutting Fitzpatrick. Then we could look at Patterson or Warmack at #8.
Too early for all the speculating, but this is starting to get exciting!!
So you won't pick Warmack at 6 but you will at 8?? With the rookie pay scale now they would make about the same. I'm not saying we should pick warmack(although I'm not against it) but I just don't understand that kind of logic
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