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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    As of this morning, March 18 here is a list of players who have been added 'in the picture" over the last several days:

    QB Kevin Kolb

    S Tom Zbikowski

    WR Brandon Lloyd

    S Ben Pollard

    WR Ben Obomanu

    DE Elvis Dumerville

    LB Quincy Black

    S Kerry Rhodes

    TE Kellen Davis

    What interest is there in acquiring any of these players at various position of need for the Browns?

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    • The GipperT The Gipper

      As of this morning, March 18 here is a list of players who have been added 'in the picture" over the last several days:

      QB Kevin Kolb

      S Tom Zbikowski

      WR Brandon Lloyd

      S Ben Pollard

      WR Ben Obomanu

      DE Elvis Dumerville

      LB Quincy Black

      S Kerry Rhodes

      TE Kellen Davis

      What interest is there in acquiring any of these players at various position of need for the Browns?

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      Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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      @the-gipper said:

      As of this morning, March 18 here is a list of players who have been added 'in the picture" over the last several days:

      QB Kevin Kolb

      S Tom Zbikowski

      WR Brandon Lloyd

      S Ben Pollard

      WR Ben Obomanu

      DE Elvis Dumerville

      LB Quincy Black

      S Kerry Rhodes

      TE Kellen Davis

      What interest is there in acquiring any of these players at various position of need for the Browns?

      I'm interested in Kolb. Pollard plays same position as Ward. Dumerville is probably not going to be signed with Sheard and Kruger on board. Lukewarm, or do know enough to speak ofthe rest. No to Brandon Lloyd.

      Zombo

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      • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        Per CBSports.com's Top 100 Free agent rankings, here are the best players that were/are free agents and their disposition:

        QB Joe Flacco, resigned with Ravens prior to FA period beginning.

        ...NO other QB was listed in Top 100, though this list was made prior to the Fitzpatrick release

        RB Steven Jackson signed with the Falcons

        WR Dwayne Bowe, resigned with KC prior to FA period beginning

        ...top WR to hit market: Mike Wallace, signe by Dolphins

        TE Jared Cook, signed by Rams

        OT Ryan Clady, resigned with Broncos before FA period began

        ...top OT to hit market: Sebastian Vollmer, and he is still unsigned

        OG Andy Levitre, signed by Titans

        C no centers were ranked in CBS top 100

        DE Cliff Avril signed by Seahawks

        ...note: list prior to Dumerville release

        DT Henry Melton, resigned by Bear priot to FA period beginning

        ...top DT to hit market: Desmond Bryant signed by Browns

        OLB Paul Kruger, signed by Browns

        ILB Dannell Ellerbe, signed by Dolphins

        S Jarius Byrd, resigned by Bill prior to FA beginning

        ...top S to hit market: Dashon Goldson, signed by Tampa Bay

        CB Sean Smith signed by KC

        ...note: other lists had Grimes top, but injury situation made him a question mark.

        As mentioned, if Browns get Grimes, they could get perhaps top FA at 3 positions.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          Zibikowski would be sick

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            Note, per this CBSports.com website, 35 of the top 100 FAs available still remain unsigned. I know the Browns are talking to some of them. Who among this list should they be thinking about?

            http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/transactions/free-agents

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              Zibikowski would be sick

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              Zibikowski would be sick

              Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

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                @mld-woody said:

                Zibikowski would be sick

                Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

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                hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

                ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either. πŸ˜•

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Why would the Colts release him if he is so good? I didn't hear that they had a cap space problem.

                  ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either. πŸ˜•

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @hoorta said:

                  ditto that about Vollmer- he made the Pro Bowl @ RT. Bill B rarely makes mistakes, so he must know something we don't. Then again he thought an average of 120 receptions and 1,400 yards receiving over the last two years wasn't worth $6 million a year either. πŸ˜•

                  I don't know Vollmer's age, but perhaps he, like Welker, was a little older and BB, as he often does gets rid of guys perhaps one year early rather than one year late.

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                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                    Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                      Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they don’t have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β€” as the $2.879 million tender did β€” until they have a better idea what his market value really is.

                      Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/vacchiano-tendering-cruz-article-1.1290695#ixzz2NvGKI2Wk

                      The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .

                      Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .

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                        Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they don’t have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β€” as the $2.879 million tender did β€” until they have a better idea what his market value really is.

                        Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/vacchiano-tendering-cruz-article-1.1290695#ixzz2NvGKI2Wk

                        The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .

                        Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .

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                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                        @joeb said:

                        Cruz is still a year away from unrestricted free agency so they don’t have to give him a mega-contract at the moment. They can buy time β€” as the $2.879 million tender did β€” until they have a better idea what his market value really is.

                        Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/vacchiano-tendering-cruz-article-1.1290695#ixzz2NvGKI2Wk

                        The giants have been walking a fine line with Cruz way to long and need to be called on the " Your so happy in Ny the greatest city on the planet Line " While paying him somewhere around 330,000 $ Next year he will demand 12 Mill and the giants are going to pull a Mike Wallace and smash his reputation in the media . Cruz deserves a Chance to be Someones # 1 and the NY talking heads are cuddling the fact , The only thing holding him there is the fear of the NY media .

                        Cleveland need to at least sweeten the deal for him so this travesty doesn't play out in the form of Wallace to Miami after a media circus . Im sure Miami would have given up the Ryan Tannenhill pick for Wallace at 4.5 mill last year . A lesson Cleveland should look at , as a positive not a loss .

                        So NY won't pay him $12 million next year but Cleveland should give him that kind of money, and ship the #6 pick to the Giants on top of it? Instant Cap Hell. Welker only got $6 million. No thanks. I like what we have in Gordon and Little.

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                          Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

                          Grow up.

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            Moves yesterday involving players at positions of Browns needs, these guys are now "Out of the Picture" for the Browns:

                            TE Matt Spaeth signed by Steelers

                            LB Antwan Barnes signed by Jets

                            TE Ben Watson signed by Saints

                            LB Ramon Humber signed by Saints

                            CB Cassius Vaughn resigned by Colts

                            LB Rey Maualaga resigned by Bengals.

                            DE Marcus spears signed by Ravens

                            P Sav Rocca signed by Redskins

                            TE Tom Crabtree signed by Bucs

                            LB Kevin Burnett signed by Raiders

                            TE Ben Hartsock signed by Panthers

                            DB Craig Dahl signed by 49ers

                            K Nick Folk signed by Jets

                            LB Rob Francois signed by Packers

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Cuz Zibikowski in the only Notre Dame player I've ever liked and he's a good user safety in Madden πŸ™‚

                              Grow up.

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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              @the-gipper said:

                              Grow up.

                              You first

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @the-gipper said:

                                Grow up.

                                You first

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                You first

                                I am growing old, I am growing out, I am growing grey. At this point I may even be retracting in my growth.

                                11When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    More "out of the picture" this afternoon March 19th:

                                    QB Ryan Fitzpatrick...got his St. Pats present, signed by Titans

                                    QB Matt Hasselback...signed by Colts

                                    OG Nate Garner...signed by Dolphins

                                    WR Louis Murphy...signed by Giants.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      Another group of "Outs":

                                      CB DJ Moore signs with Panthers

                                      OG Seth Olsen signs with Vikings

                                      QB David Carr resigns with Giants

                                      and, of course, Phil Dawson.

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                                        Really, really loved the Browns first two moves. Really, really hate that they've missed out on all those affordable corners and now it's down to paying more for a potentially terrific CB who's gonna be 30 and coming off a torn achilles. Could work out... could make us yearn for Keenan Lewis.

                                        I figured we should focus on D and RG because it's gonna be tough to get f/a passcatchers to come here until we have a settled and productive QB sitch.

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                                          BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                                          I'm cautiously optimistic about the signings, I think the biggest factor will be Horton and not the free agents we signed.

                                          Quinton Groves was on the radio today and the way these guys talk about Horton and his D makes it sound like he is Bill Walsh reincarnated as a defensive guy. Can't wait for the new season should be exciting.

                                          I wish we would of signed Sean Smith the corner who went to KC,hopefully we can land Grimes.

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