Conspiracy Theories

[heckofajobbrownie]

PPP polled Americans about "20 widespread and/or infamous conspiracy theories." Here’s what they found:

- 37% of voters believe global warming is a hoax, 51% do not. Republicans say global warming is a hoax by a 58-25 margin, Democrats disagree 11-77, and Independents are more split at 41-51. 61% of Romney voters believe global warming is a hoax

- 6% of voters believe Osama bin Laden is still alive

- 21% of voters say a UFO crashed in Roswell, NM in 1947 and the US government covered it up. More Romney voters (27%) than Obama voters (16%) believe in a UFO coverup

- 28% of voters believe secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order. A plurality of Romney voters (38%) believe in the New World Order compared to 35% who don’t

- 28% of voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks. 36% of Romney voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, 41% do not

- 20% of voters believe there is a link between childhood vaccines and autism, 51% do not

- 7% of voters think the moon landing was faked

- 13% of voters think Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, including 22% of Romney voters

- Voters are split 44%-45% on whether Bush intentionally misled about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 72% of Democrats think Bush lied about WMDs, Independents agree 48-45, just 13% of Republicans think so

- 29% of voters believe aliens exist

- 14% of voters say the CIA was instrumental in creating the crack cocaine epidemic in America’s inner cities in the 1980’s

- 9% of voters think the government adds fluoride to our water supply for sinister reasons (not just dental health)

- 4% of voters say they believe “lizard people” control our societies by gaining political power

- 51% of voters say a larger conspiracy was at work in the JFK assassination, just 25% say Oswald acted alone

- 14% of voters believe in Bigfoot

- 15% of voters say the government or the media adds mind-controlling technology to TV broadcast signals (the so-called Tinfoil Hat crowd)

- 5% believe exhaust seen in the sky behind airplanes is actually chemicals sprayed by the government for sinister reasons

- 15% of voters think the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry “invent” new diseases to make money

- Just 5% of voters believe that Paul McCartney actually died in 1966

- 11% of voters believe the US government allowed 9/11 to happen, 78% do not agree

[heckofajobbrownie]

Anyone believe in any of these?

I'd go for: aliens exist. If by that they mean there is life on other planets. I think it's likely that there is.

And I'd say Bush misled on WMD, but that's different from saying he lied. I don't know why they confuse the two here.

And I tend to think Oswald didn't act alone.

[BadNewsBrowns]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

PPP polled Americans about "20 widespread and/or infamous conspiracy theories." Here’s what they found:

- 37% of voters believe global warming is a hoax, 51% do not. Republicans say global warming is a hoax by a 58-25 margin, Democrats disagree 11-77, and Independents are more split at 41-51. 61% of Romney voters believe global warming is a hoax

Earths climate has fluctuated long before the industrial age.

- 6% of voters believe Osama bin Laden is still alive

I think the story of OBL's death was total bullshit,I also question the video tapes authenticity.

- 21% of voters say a UFO crashed in Roswell, NM in 1947 and the US government covered it up. More Romney voters (27%) than Obama voters (16%) believe in a UFO coverup

Is there other intelligent life in the universe other than us? Sure. Are they secretly visiting Earth? No.

- 28% of voters believe secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government, or New World Order. A plurality of Romney voters (38%) believe in the New World Order compared to 35% who don’t

Secret Societies? Illuminati? Bunch of stupidly wealthy & powerful families manipulating the world? probably.

- 28% of voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks. 36% of Romney voters believe Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11, 41% do not

dumb,no

- 20% of voters believe there is a link between childhood vaccines and autism, 51% do not

no

- 7% of voters think the moon landing was faked

The video is questionable and a bit suspicious, a guy walking past a flag on the moon should not cause a "breeze" to make the flag move.

- 13% of voters think Barack Obama is the anti-Christ, including 22% of Romney voters

Isn't every President the Anti-Christ?

- Voters are split 44%-45% on whether Bush intentionally misled about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. 72% of Democrats think Bush lied about WMDs, Independents agree 48-45, just 13% of Republicans think so

Obviously there were no WMD in Iraq and it was all bullcrap.

- 29% of voters believe aliens exist

see answer #3

- 14% of voters say the CIA was instrumental in creating the crack cocaine epidemic in America’s inner cities in the 1980’s

The CIA involved in the drug trade?preposterous!

- 9% of voters think the government adds fluoride to our water supply for sinister reasons (not just dental health)

Sure fluoride is poison and has harmful long term effects at low doses,but so do cigarettes and I'm smokin one now.

- 4% of voters say they believe “lizard people” control our societies by gaining political power

They are actually crab people.

- 51% of voters say a larger conspiracy was at work in the JFK assassination, just 25% say Oswald acted alone

absolutely,the private bankers of the fed and Israel were behind it.

- 14% of voters believe in Bigfoot

Fuck Yeah Son.

- 15% of voters say the government or the media adds mind-controlling technology to TV broadcast signals (the so-called Tinfoil Hat crowd)

Isn't that what marketing is all about,and television is it's biggest venue.

- 5% believe exhaust seen in the sky behind airplanes is actually chemicals sprayed by the government for sinister reasons

No

- 15% of voters think the medical industry and the pharmaceutical industry “invent” new diseases to make money

I wouldn't put it past them.

- Just 5% of voters believe that Paul McCartney actually died in 1966

lol,never heard this one.

- 11% of voters believe the US government allowed 9/11 to happen, 78% do not agree

There is evidence that strongly suggests people on American soil had prior knowledge of the events that were to take place on 9/11/01. Many people profited from 9/11 and the "official" 9/11 investigation was a total farce. Yes I believe it was a sham,possibly a false flag operation and the real truth of it will never be known.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Lizard people do run the country.

[Westside Steve]

Not sure of the numbers but I'd expect that a good percentage of these folks are pulling the pollsters dick.

WSS

[Kosar_For_President]

I can almost answer these questions for everyone here. Me Democrat you Republican, pound chest, go back in cave.

[VaporTrail]

[calfoxwc]

Here's a conspiracy for ya:

It's all about the money to run s socialist country - all the "fair" and

"we have to do something to protect the kids" and on and on and on.

It's all "we need more money" bs. That's what global warming is.

You can pollute and spew carbons out the wazoo = as long as you PAY UP.

You can own guns if you PAY UP.

You can let your cows fart, if you PAY UP.

You can get on the internet and buy stuff, if you PAY UP.

You can heat your house with wood, and have campfires while camping, if you PAY UP.

It's all about getting the money to buy more and more dependency on our gov, so the votes are there

for marxists to keep winning elections.

This is why they MUST HAVE gun registration. They can't tax what they can't find.

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Beware the gun tax

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David Addington at the

Heritage Foundation reports on a little something-something slipped into the rough beast of gun control laws slouching toward the Senate to be born, courtesy of majority leader Harry Reid:

Title I of the Reid gun control bill purports to "fix gun checks." The proposed "fix" in section 122 of S. 649 is to take away an individual's right to sell or give away a firearm to another individual unless, in most cases, the individual (1) uses a licensed importer, dealer, or manufacturer to make the transfer of the firearm and (2)

pays a fee to that importer, dealer, or manufacturer to make the transfer

.

 

The individual transferring the firearm is not actually receiving a service; the federal government is receiving the service. The service the government gets is a background check on the intended recipient of the firearm, because the law requires the importer, dealer, or manufacturer to run the recipient through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

 

Forcing the individual to pay for the government-mandated service, which is in fact a service to the government, is in essence a federal tax on the individual. And the amount the individual pays as a fee is not limited by the legislation; section 122(a)(4) of the Reid bill enacts a new section 922(t)(4)(

(i) of title 18 of the U.S. Code to

grant to Attorney General Eric Holder the power to set the maximum fee by regulation.

 

That sounds great! I was just thinking that what this country really needs is Eric Holder controlling more of our lives.

Besides the obvious ramifications for gun control, this is a prime example of all the little back doors installed in our liberty by Big Government. Countless taxes are disguised as "fees" and "penalties." When ObamaCare reached the Supreme Court, we learned just how quickly the political class was willing to admit they're all taxes, no matter what rhetorical sleight-of-hand is used to slip them past voters. Remember when President Obama literally laughed out loud at the idea his health-care plan would impose taxes on the middle class? On Day One of that bizarre Supreme Court hearing, he stopped laughing.

No doubt Reid, Holder, and their allies would respond to Addington's criticism by insisting that it's the American people receiving this vital universal background check "service," not the federal bureaucracy. The government's interests are always camouflaged as popular interest, with bureaucrats serving as the avatars of popular will.

Once Harry Reid's background check tax is in place, it could easily become a clamp for choking off gun rights, by simply cranking the fee up high enough. At some point, this would prompt dramatically increased interest in black-market gun transfers, which would tend to defeat the entire purpose of universal background checks – which won't be much of an impediment to criminals anyway, although supporters of the idea hope it will dissuade the "straw purchasers" who buy weapons legally and funnel them to the underworld.

Placing a stiff "fee" on a background check system for even the most casual transfer of firearms would provide a monetary incentive for people to avoid using the system, measured against the risk of getting arrested for violating the law. If the background check system is truly a universal public interest, shouldn't it be financed out of general taxation and provided "free" to those who need it, just like every other socialized necessity? We hear a lot about how public subsidies are necessary to guarantee "access" to our "rights." For example, it has become received wisdom on the Left that if people are obliged to pay for their own birth control, they are being denied "access" to it. Why shouldn't that logic apply to gun rights, which really are explicitly spelled out in the Bill of Rights? If we're not going to subsidize legal gun purchases under this principle of "access," we should at least provide those universal background checks for "free."

It's hard to resolve a tax on the purchase or transfer of all firearms with the concept of a "right to keep and bear arms that shall not be infringed." Taxing the exercise of a right is a clear infringement upon it, as any discussion of poll taxes would swiftly make clear. In fact, Eric Holder's Justice Department has a habit of arguing that even minor incidental expenses incurred in the course of obtaining voter identification, such as the cost of traveling to an election office to pick up a free ID card, are unacceptable infringements upon voting rights. Attorney General Holder himself has not been shy about denouncing these expenses as a racist conspiracy to suppress the minority vote. Wouldn't Harry Reid's gun tax be a comparable conspiracy to suppress the exercise of Second Amendment rights by law-abiding minority gun buyers?

Or should we stop asking such impertinent questions, and accept the judgment of politicians and government officials about just how alienable our inalienable rights must become, on a case-by-case basis?

Tags: Eric Holder, Gun control, Harry Reid, Second Amendment, taxes, universal background check

[MLD Woody]

I don't think Cal is a real person

[calfoxwc]

Well, Canton Mike knows me well, us and our wives have been to dinner, etc.

Steve has met me in person.

You are all soaked in Egypt, Woody.

[MLD Woody]

@calfoxwc said:

Well, Canton Mike knows me well, us and our wives have been to dinner, etc.

Steve has met me in person.

You are all soaked in Egypt, Woody.

You must get all warm and fuzzy inside when you type one of your catch phrases

My conspiracy theory is still that you aren't a real person. Maybe just some code made by someone as a joke. Maybe you are bunch of conservative squirrels running on a keyboard. Maybe you are one monkey standing on another monkeys shoulders wearing a large trench coat

[MLD Woody]

22% of Romney voters think Obama is the anti-Christ

WTF?

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@mld-woody said:

22% of Romney voters think Obama is the anti-Christ

WTF?

And? Lets see a real post. Besides "WTF"?

[The Cysko Kid]

@mld-woody said:

I don't think Cal is a real person

If two people on this forum believe that, what's that make the pecentage of active posters on the political forum? 10%?

Approximately 10% of the posters on this forum don't believe cal is real.

[heckofajobbrownie]

When I first joined the board I didn't think he was real either. I thought he was a guy fucking around, playing a character. But Cal has to be real, if only because there's no way someone could keep up his performance for that many years. Andy Kaufman couldn't even do that.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Frontline runs a three-hour Oswald special every year around 11/22 that I thought made a pretty convincing case that there was at least a decent chance that Oswald had a Cuban co-conspirator with him at the time of the shooting. He was seen with some in the days before the assassination.

We'll probably never know.

[FairHooker11]

I thought the movie "JFK" by Oliver Stone gave some interesting versions of what wasnt disclosed by the Warren commision...

Is that available to the public yet?

[DieHardBrownsFan]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Frontline runs a three-hour Oswald special every year around 11/22 that I thought made a pretty convincing case that there was at least a decent chance that Oswald had a Cuban co-conspirator with him at the time of the shooting. He was seen with some in the days before the assassination.

We'll probably never know.

I have absolutely no proof but I highly doubt that Oswald acted alone, or for that matter was even the actual shooter. We will never know the truth on that one.

[heckofajobbrownie]

I think we know for certain he was one of the shooters, if not the only one.

[MLD Woody]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

And? Lets see a real post. Besides "WTF"?

obvious troll is obvious

to think i actually need an in depth response to explain how Retarded that stat is