Knives Vs Guns
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14 wounded. WOUNDED. If you can't see the difference you cannot see anything.
14 wounded. WOUNDED. If you can't see the difference you cannot see anything.
Good lord Cysco, STFU already. You're getting boring.
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14 wounded. WOUNDED. If you can't see the difference you cannot see anything.
Good lord Cysco, STFU already. You're getting boring.
Good lord Cysco, STFU already. You're getting boring.
You already got there a long time ago chum, so at least I won't be alone. I'll assume you mean you dont want to see one of the dumber pro gun arguments debunked and leave it there.
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Good lord Cysco, STFU already. You're getting boring.
You already got there a long time ago chum, so at least I won't be alone. I'll assume you mean you dont want to see one of the dumber pro gun arguments debunked and leave it there.
You already got there a long time ago chum, so at least I won't be alone. I'll assume you mean you dont want to see one of the dumber pro gun arguments debunked and leave it there.
Assume means make an ass out of you and me Air Farce. And you've done that plenty of times.
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The difference is obvious. And yet there's nobody who could propose that we do away with the type of gun that this guy could have had almost as easily as he had the knife, so it doesn't really matter.
But yes, the difference is lethality should be obvious to everyone.
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The difference is obvious. And yet there's nobody who could propose that we do away with the type of gun that this guy could have had almost as easily as he had the knife, so it doesn't really matter.
But yes, the difference is lethality should be obvious to everyone.
The difference is obvious. And yet there's nobody who could propose that we do away with the type of gun that this guy could have had almost as easily as he had the knife, so it doesn't really matter.
But yes, the difference is lethality should be obvious to everyone.
It should be but in every gun control debate without exception the first place they turn is "well you could still kill people with a knife". Sure. You COULD but in reality its not as easy as all that, hence the death total here of zero.
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Do we know a motive or intent?
Stabbing victims always heal up good as new physically, and mentally. No emotional issues to deal with either.
Knives it is then.
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Do we know a motive or intent?
Stabbing victims always heal up good as new physically, and mentally. No emotional issues to deal with either.
Knives it is then.
Do we know a motive or intent?
Stabbing victims always heal up good as new physically, and mentally. No emotional issues to deal with either.
Knives it is then.
Not the point is it? Would you rather get your kids therapy to understand why some freak stabbed them? Or put them in the ground?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
but but but, cars kill people too Cysko! Ah ha!
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Do we know a motive or intent?
Stabbing victims always heal up good as new physically, and mentally. No emotional issues to deal with either.
Knives it is then.
Not the point is it? Would you rather get your kids therapy to understand why some freak stabbed them? Or put them in the ground?
Not the point is it? Would you rather get your kids therapy to understand why some freak stabbed them? Or put them in the ground?
I wasn't necessarily framing my reference as a parent of a victim of either type of attack. There are witnesses etc. that will also be impacted by this. I also don't think this kid fits into your mold of "no way this kid is obtaining a gun illegally" either (like you were doing with Lanza). Articles I've read said the kid confessed to "having fantasies about stabbing people to death since he was younger"
I'm looking at the whole picture. The cause and the effect - not just body count. We've spent pages showing that guns rank low in terms of body count when it comes to violent crime according to the FBI stats.
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...if someone had a gun they could have shot this sick guy and ended his run after the first couple stabs. If he really wanted to he could have killed many more. Anything can be used as a weapon, what if he had been weilding a samurai sword, if he had the outcome would have been much worse, limbs amputated and heads severed...
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...if someone had a gun they could have shot this sick guy and ended his run after the first couple stabs. If he really wanted to he could have killed many more. Anything can be used as a weapon, what if he had been weilding a samurai sword, if he had the outcome would have been much worse, limbs amputated and heads severed...
...if someone had a gun they could have shot this sick guy and ended his run after the first couple stabs. If he really wanted to he could have killed many more. Anything can be used as a weapon, what if he had been weilding a samurai sword, if he had the outcome would have been much worse, limbs amputated and heads severed...
Samurai sword? Yeah maybe a real one. It's a lit easier to get a fake though, and someone is still able to take you down before you get 26 or 35 it whatever. The level of nihilism is strong.
And, legacy or whoever, I didn't claim that this kid couldn't have gotten a gun like Lanza. I'm merely pointing out the different outcomes of a mass attack with a knife vs a mass attack with a gun. You guys are scrambling to defend something I didn't say. Want another example?
22 poor kids wounded, the same day 20 American parents had theirs murdered.
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Rover on Rover's morning glory, who by the way is a gun rights guy, is having this arguement right now, and his position is the same as what I said about this. Interesting stuff.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
But a citizen with ccw license and his weapon could have shot both knife murderers,
and saved all those college students, and young children, and adults from any harm at all.
Meanwhile, we were fishing at a local lake with friends, (a bit too early for bluegill and crappies weren't hitting either),
and an elderly couple drove up and asked if the fish were biting. Ended up with them saying they loved the outdoors,
but in their older age, they were afraid, anymore, of going out when there weren't a lot of people out.
He said in his younger days, he knew he'd just battle anybody who might come after them, but he was much older now,
and knew that he couldn't stop muggers at all.
Well, I ended up mentioning that they could get ccw licenses... and found out they already had them ! But they still
didn't want to go out unless they had several people out at the same place with them.
I shudder to think how many crimes would be committed, if muggers/murderers knew that every victim would
be completely defenseless to their knife or illegally owned gun.
There have been many tens of millions of background checks done, during Obamao's reign of leftist garbage alone.
And lib political wonks like Cysko find a small number of horrors to blame the right for. While refusing to seriously talk about
any solution like Cysko did with my serious questions.
And just like I said before - they claim "gee I'm so tired of talking about this", then they wait a few days whatever, and they start it up again
with the same emotional screaming on the issue on their terms. You can take every single American legal, responsible gun owner,
take all their guns, and put them all in Fema camps under lock and key, and criminals will find guns and continue committing these
murder atrocities.
The left know that. But at least, they figure they will be happy with the false solution.....
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You guys still don't get it at all. All you want to hear is total victory or total defeat. Think somewhere in the middle. If gun deaths could be lowered in the same way dui deaths have been lowered everyone would call that acceptable
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But the reality is, even if you could flip a switch in history, and all guns on earth would disappear, and were never invented....
one crazed murdered could still murder a bunch of innocent people - he'd just have to do it without using guns.
Like some horror movie...locked the doors to a church, and set it on fire with gasoline. whatever that movie I turned off was...
Violent murderers will use whatever weapons they can use. To say that harrassing all legal gun owners would at least
"limit" the crimes to a little bit less...what sense does that make?
It's past time to start thinking of why these things are occuring, and what we can do to keep those murderers from being
able to act out in the first place.
Bernadine Dorn and the weather underground got their hands on explosives. That was illegal. But they did it anyways.
Oklahoma City...made their own bomb. Something's wrong, and it has nothing to do with guns. The attack on guns
is solely...? a political attack on a section of our society who enjoy the freedom of our 2nd Amendment. BTW, we are, I believe,
the only country on earth WITH a "2nd Amendment". And we lead the world in freedom and democracy. Go figure, eh?
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Rover on Rover's morning glory, who by the way is a gun rights guy, is having this arguement right now, and his position is the same as what I said about this. Interesting stuff.
Rover on Rover's morning glory, who by the way is a gun rights guy, is having this arguement right now, and his position is the same as what I said about this. Interesting stuff.
Rover appears to be more intelligent than he actually is because he's typically arguing with the Dieter and Douchey. Those two are the biggest idiots in radio.
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But the reality is, even if you could flip a switch in history, and all guns on earth would disappear, and were never invented....
one crazed murdered could still murder a bunch of innocent people - he'd just have to do it without using guns.
Like some horror movie...locked the doors to a church, and set it on fire with gasoline. whatever that movie I turned off was...
Violent murderers will use whatever weapons they can use. To say that harrassing all legal gun owners would at least
"limit" the crimes to a little bit less...what sense does that make?
It's past time to start thinking of why these things are occuring, and what we can do to keep those murderers from being
able to act out in the first place.
Bernadine Dorn and the weather underground got their hands on explosives. That was illegal. But they did it anyways.
Oklahoma City...made their own bomb. Something's wrong, and it has nothing to do with guns. The attack on guns
is solely...? a political attack on a section of our society who enjoy the freedom of our 2nd Amendment. BTW, we are, I believe,
the only country on earth WITH a "2nd Amendment". And we lead the world in freedom and democracy. Go figure, eh?
But the reality is, even if you could flip a switch in history, and all guns on earth would disappear, and were never invented....
one crazed murdered could still murder a bunch of innocent people - he'd just have to do it without using guns.
Like some horror movie...locked the doors to a church, and set it on fire with gasoline. whatever that movie I turned off was...
Violent murderers will use whatever weapons they can use. To say that harrassing all legal gun owners would at least
"limit" the crimes to a little bit less...what sense does that make?
It's past time to start thinking of why these things are occuring, and what we can do to keep those murderers from being
able to act out in the first place.
Bernadine Dorn and the weather underground got their hands on explosives. That was illegal. But they did it anyways.
Oklahoma City...made their own bomb. Something's wrong, and it has nothing to do with guns. The attack on guns
is solely...? a political attack on a section of our society who enjoy the freedom of our 2nd Amendment. BTW, we are, I believe,
the only country on earth WITH a "2nd Amendment". And we lead the world in freedom and democracy. Go figure, eh?
See my above post as a response to this one.
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Rover on Rover's morning glory, who by the way is a gun rights guy, is having this arguement right now, and his position is the same as what I said about this. Interesting stuff.
Rover appears to be more intelligent than he actually is because he's typically arguing with the Dieter and Douchey. Those two are the biggest idiots in radio.
Rover appears to be more intelligent than he actually is because he's typically arguing with the Dieter and Douchey. Those two are the biggest idiots in radio.
I just found it to he interesting, I'm not speaking on what you percieve to be his intelligence.
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