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  • VaporTrail VaporTrailV Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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    The discussion about gun control and mental health got me thinking about genetic medicine, that is genomics, transcriptomics, proteomics, and interactomics (yes the last one is a real thing). With genomics becoming cheaper every month and CPU processing power still growing according to Moore's law (and if we figure out quantum computing, who knows how fast the limit will be), it won't be long before sequencing your genome is a medical norm. As it is, only a few hundred people (if that) have had their genomes sequenced, but as more and more people get sequenced, researchers will likely begin to identify never before seen genes and motifs that correlate with the presence of certain diseases. Once these genes of interest are identified, that gives scientists access to a brand new arsenal of therapeutic techniques. This untapped potential is why the human genome pioneers won a Nobel prize a decade ago. The scientist side of me is screaming for everyone to start getting sequenced to see what we can learn, however, this sequencing information comes with a slew of legal issues.

    For the information to be meaningful, we'll need a large sample size, and the genomes of these subjects, along with their medical history, must be made available to researchers. At this point, it's easy to see why many people will have a problem with this, as this information needs to stay the hell away from insurance companies since you may be able to identify risks that an individual may be predisposed to. For me, this is the biggest reason that I want a socialized health care system, financial feasibility aside. It might be the case that genomic databases only get recorded in countries with a national healthcare system, which unfortunately limits the data that could be collected.

    I'm just curious of everyone's thoughts on this subject. What do you think?

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      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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      Absolutely, genome sequencing is something I'm very much looking forward to! It's just such a cool thing to have, to start with, but beyond that, as you say, the medical benefits could be enormous. Imagine if we manage to find that 98% of cancer sufferers have some defect in a gene (for example)? Medicine specifically targeting the 'correction' of that gene, if possible, would essentially be a vaccine against cancer. The same goes for other things like AIDS, ALS, and thousands of other presently incurable diseases. Except lupus, it's never lupus.

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        Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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        Roughly 5 % of our genome encodes for "genes." The rest we aren't really sure what it does. And of that 5% this is what we're looking at:

        640px-Human_genome_by_functions.svg.png

        I think we're a loooong way off from recognizing "behavioral" genomics and even further from understanding it. Would definitely be cool though.

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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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          to be honest, legacy, I don't know how cool it would end up being. we need to take into account Murphys law, the law of unexpected consequences and the Rod Serling affect.

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            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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              Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

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              gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

              For reference, check hollywood? Not sure what things like this we've fucked up in the past, this is extremely ground breaking.

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                Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

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                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

                We're not really "fucking around with things," in genomics. -omics is just the collection of genetic data and the analysis of such. And really, if that's your opinion, how do you feel about vaccines and not having to worry about measles or polio?

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                  Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

                  I wonder how many times that has been said in human history. Only to have us end up better off

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    Some things are better off left alone. This is one of them. When man starts fucking around with things, he always fucks them up.

                    I wonder how many times that has been said in human history. Only to have us end up better off

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                    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    I wonder how many times that has been said in human history. Only to have us end up better off

                    Like the Atom genius? Boy, that sure did a lot of good huh. We can kill and destroy things well. And pollute the planet with nuclear plant mishaps.

                    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                      @mld-woody said:

                      I wonder how many times that has been said in human history. Only to have us end up better off

                      Like the Atom genius? Boy, that sure did a lot of good huh. We can kill and destroy things well. And pollute the planet with nuclear plant mishaps.

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                      VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                      Like the Atom genius? Boy, that sure did a lot of good huh.

                      Powering a huge percentage of the grid for decades? Nuclear medicine? Isotopic dating? The potential of fusion? Yeah, terrible. Obviously we still don't know what to do with the radioactive waste, but to say in jest that it "did a lot of good huh," is quite ignorant.

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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                        Problem with man is they will always find something bad to do with their findings. I agree that nuclear medicine is good. Nuclear Bombs, bad. I imagine somewhere in the world there is already a human being cloned in some top secret lab. I don't expect a future scientist or whatever you become would agree, but many don't agree. This is the liberal diehard.

                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                          Don't know much about this. It's interesting stuff though. And inevitable.

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                            Problem with man is they will always find something bad to do with their findings. I agree that nuclear medicine is good. Nuclear Bombs, bad. I imagine somewhere in the world there is already a human being cloned in some top secret lab. I don't expect a future scientist or whatever you become would agree, but many don't agree. This is the liberal diehard.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @diehardbrownsfan said:

                            Problem with man is they will always find something bad to do with their findings. I agree that nuclear medicine is good. Nuclear Bombs, bad. I imagine somewhere in the world there is already a human being cloned in some top secret lab. I don't expect a future scientist or whatever you become would agree, but many don't agree. This is the liberal diehard.

                            Right

                            and fire

                            I mean,

                            Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                            What do with fire?

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              @diehardbrownsfan said:

                              Problem with man is they will always find something bad to do with their findings. I agree that nuclear medicine is good. Nuclear Bombs, bad. I imagine somewhere in the world there is already a human being cloned in some top secret lab. I don't expect a future scientist or whatever you become would agree, but many don't agree. This is the liberal diehard.

                              Right

                              and fire

                              I mean,

                              Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                              What do with fire?

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                              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Right

                              and fire

                              I mean,

                              Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                              What do with fire?

                              I don't make fun of the mentally disabled.

                              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                Problem with man is they will always find something bad to do with their findings. I agree that nuclear medicine is good. Nuclear Bombs, bad. I imagine somewhere in the world there is already a human being cloned in some top secret lab. I don't expect a future scientist or whatever you become would agree, but many don't agree. This is the liberal diehard.

                                Right

                                and fire

                                I mean,

                                Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                                What do with fire?

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Right

                                and fire

                                I mean,

                                Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                                What do with fire?

                                This was honestly pretty funny. I laughed and that is an absolute rarity on this board. Spot on, woody. I got it.

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                  Problem with man is they will always find something bad to do with their findings. I agree that nuclear medicine is good. Nuclear Bombs, bad. I imagine somewhere in the world there is already a human being cloned in some top secret lab. I don't expect a future scientist or whatever you become would agree, but many don't agree. This is the liberal diehard.

                                  Right

                                  and fire

                                  I mean,

                                  Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                                  What do with fire?

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                                  F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Right

                                  and fire

                                  I mean,

                                  Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                                  What do with fire?

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                                    T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Right

                                      and fire

                                      I mean,

                                      Fire good, make warm. Fire bad, make pain!

                                      What do with fire?

                                      This was honestly pretty funny. I laughed and that is an absolute rarity on this board. Spot on, woody. I got it.

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      @the-cysko-kid said:

                                      This was honestly pretty funny. I laughed and that is an absolute rarity on this board. Spot on, woody. I got it.

                                      😁

                                      No one ever gets/finds my jokes funny lol

                                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                        @the-cysko-kid said:

                                        This was honestly pretty funny. I laughed and that is an absolute rarity on this board. Spot on, woody. I got it.

                                        😁

                                        No one ever gets/finds my jokes funny lol

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                                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        😁

                                        No one ever gets/finds my jokes funny lol

                                        for the record I liked it too!

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          😁

                                          No one ever gets/finds my jokes funny lol

                                          for the record I liked it too!

                                          WSS

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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          for the record I liked it too!

                                          WSS

                                          😁

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