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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    if we do get lucky enough and someone wants to do a trade down with us i would definitely think about warmack. the problem is the drop off from millner to the next best corner is huge. i agree with the safety. i think this draft is loaded full of talented safeties AND LBs so they could be found in the later rounds.

    i mean warmack might finally make the browns' offense whole. as i've said in other posts that OL is the only pick i would make on the offensive side of the ball, but not in the first round.

    anyone that looks at this team knows that our defensive backfield is what we need to address, either at 6 or wherever we might land. sure i'd love warmack but we got to get a corner number one and a safety number two. then i'd pick up the best OL left and from there best player available.

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    @miktoxic said:

    if we do get lucky enough and someone wants to do a trade down with us i would definitely think about warmack. the problem is the drop off from millner to the next best corner is huge. i agree with the safety. i think this draft is loaded full of talented safeties AND LBs so they could be found in the later rounds.

    i mean warmack might finally make the browns' offense whole. as i've said in other posts that OL is the only pick i would make on the offensive side of the ball, but not in the first round.

    anyone that looks at this team knows that our defensive backfield is what we need to address, either at 6 or wherever we might land. sure i'd love warmack but we got to get a corner number one and a safety number two. then i'd pick up the best OL left and from there best player available.

    The draft is indeed loaded with OLB and CB (not safeties) which is another reason why Miliner should NOT be the pick at 6. See this list of the depth at these positions. Another concern with Miliner is all of the injuries that he has had. He has had 5 surgeries. Often injured makes him a scary pick at #6.

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      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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      I would love to add:

      Jarvis Jones

      Ziggy Ansah

      Chance Warmack

      Dion Jordan

      Dee Milliner

      Manti Teo

      Xavier Rhodes

      Tavon Austin

      Tyler Eifert

      Matt Elam

      Desmond Trufant

      Alec Ogletree

      Kenny Vaccaro

      ...any of these will do nicely! 😎

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        This would be ideal for me

        Chargers Trade 11 and 45 for 6 and 139

        11) Chance Warmack, LG, Alabama --- Solidify the line. Definitely a Top 5 Unit in the league with Warmack.

        45) Eric Reid, FS, LSU --- Would step in opposite of Ward and provide an excellent compliment.

        68) Kiko Alonso, ILB, Oregon --- A unique talent who could be moved all over. Alonso is good at disruption into the pocket, as well as, pass coverage.

        104) B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary --- Good speed and athleticism for the position. Will probably drop in draft due to competition level and his lack of man coverage (backpedal).

        164) Denard Robinson, RB/WR, Michigan --- Another athlete to pick up to move around and create mismatches. Have Denard and Benjamin split return duties and give Robinson three to four designed offensive touches a game.
        175) Lerentee McCray, OLB, Florida --- A good developmental OLB. He provides all-around ability to compliment the rushing ability of Shear/Kruger.

        227) Quinton Dial, DE, Alabama --- A good depth guy; probably would spend a year on the practice squad.

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          @miktoxic said:

          if we do get lucky enough and someone wants to do a trade down with us i would definitely think about warmack. the problem is the drop off from millner to the next best corner is huge. i agree with the safety. i think this draft is loaded full of talented safeties AND LBs so they could be found in the later rounds.

          i mean warmack might finally make the browns' offense whole. as i've said in other posts that OL is the only pick i would make on the offensive side of the ball, but not in the first round.

          anyone that looks at this team knows that our defensive backfield is what we need to address, either at 6 or wherever we might land. sure i'd love warmack but we got to get a corner number one and a safety number two. then i'd pick up the best OL left and from there best player available.

          The draft is indeed loaded with OLB and CB (not safeties) which is another reason why Miliner should NOT be the pick at 6. See this list of the depth at these positions. Another concern with Miliner is all of the injuries that he has had. He has had 5 surgeries. Often injured makes him a scary pick at #6.

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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          @browns57 said:

          The draft is indeed loaded with OLB and CB (not safeties) which is another reason why Miliner should NOT be the pick at 6. See this list of the depth at these positions. Another concern with Miliner is all of the injuries that he has had. He has had 5 surgeries. Often injured makes him a scary pick at #6.

          yeah he had 5 surgeries and missed what 2 games in his career? millner is the pick at 6 unless we trade down and warmack or hughes would be our pick then.

          OL are going to fly off the board along with CBs and safeties.

          can you really deny that our backfield is not the most important choices we have to make?

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          • PoeticGP PoeticG

            I would love to add:

            Jarvis Jones

            Ziggy Ansah

            Chance Warmack

            Dion Jordan

            Dee Milliner

            Manti Teo

            Xavier Rhodes

            Tavon Austin

            Tyler Eifert

            Matt Elam

            Desmond Trufant

            Alec Ogletree

            Kenny Vaccaro

            ...any of these will do nicely! 😎

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            @poeticg said:

            I would love to add:

            Jarvis Jones

            Ziggy Ansah

            Chance Warmack

            Dion Jordan

            Dee Milliner

            Manti Teo

            Xavier Rhodes

            Tavon Austin

            Tyler Eifert

            Matt Elam

            Desmond Trufant

            Alec Ogletree

            Kenny Vaccaro

            ...any of these will do nicely! 😎

            These are all the household names, if you will, in the draft.

            I feel many will view it a "disappointing" pick if the name called is completely off the map.

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            • PoeticGP PoeticG

              I would love to add:

              Jarvis Jones

              Ziggy Ansah

              Chance Warmack

              Dion Jordan

              Dee Milliner

              Manti Teo

              Xavier Rhodes

              Tavon Austin

              Tyler Eifert

              Matt Elam

              Desmond Trufant

              Alec Ogletree

              Kenny Vaccaro

              ...any of these will do nicely! 😎

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              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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              @poeticg said:

              I would love to add:

              Jarvis Jones

              Ziggy Ansah

              Chance Warmack

              Dion Jordan

              Dee Milliner

              Manti Teo

              Xavier Rhodes

              Tavon Austin

              Tyler Eifert

              Matt Elam

              Desmond Trufant

              Alec Ogletree

              Kenny Vaccaro

              ...any of these will do nicely! 😎

              Not a Teo fan, and it's extremely doubtful the Browns are interested in him.

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                @poeticg said:

                I would love to add:

                Jarvis Jones

                Ziggy Ansah

                Chance Warmack

                Dion Jordan

                Dee Milliner

                Manti Teo

                Xavier Rhodes

                Tavon Austin

                Tyler Eifert

                Matt Elam

                Desmond Trufant

                Alec Ogletree

                Kenny Vaccaro

                ...any of these will do nicely! 😎

                Not a Teo fan, and it's extremely doubtful the Browns are interested in him.

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                miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                @hoorta said:

                Not a Teo fan, and it's extremely doubtful the Browns are interested in him.

                well at least we know who the first nfl player to come out of the closet publicly will be. probably end up in NE, where beliichik can just mumble throw all jis answers when asked about how it is have a bone smuggler in the locker room.

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                  @browns57 said:

                  The draft is indeed loaded with OLB and CB (not safeties) which is another reason why Miliner should NOT be the pick at 6. See this list of the depth at these positions. Another concern with Miliner is all of the injuries that he has had. He has had 5 surgeries. Often injured makes him a scary pick at #6.

                  yeah he had 5 surgeries and missed what 2 games in his career? millner is the pick at 6 unless we trade down and warmack or hughes would be our pick then.

                  OL are going to fly off the board along with CBs and safeties.

                  can you really deny that our backfield is not the most important choices we have to make?

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                  @miktoxic said:

                  yeah he had 5 surgeries and missed what 2 games in his career? millner is the pick at 6 unless we trade down and warmack or hughes would be our pick then.

                  OL are going to fly off the board along with CBs and safeties.

                  can you really deny that our backfield is not the most important choices we have to make?

                  Our backfield is TERRIBLE but I really don't think we need to address it at 6 in order to find a good CB. With a better defensive scheme bringing more pressure our CB play will already seem better, and there are plenty of guys in his draft who can be had in the second or even third round. I would take BPA and that isn't Miliner if we are picking at 6.

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                    Would it be a reach on Vaccaro taking him at 6 if he's going to be an Elite FS for the next 10 years?

                    Which in your opinion is more important. A #2 CB or a #1 FS? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm actually serious.

                    It would be Ideal to trade down slightly and pick up second rounder and use that one on a Cornerback if he's going to be the number two right?

                    I would love to have 2 Elite Cornerbacks out there every game. I'm concerned though that I don't think we have a FS on the roster that would start on many other teams... Would Vaccaro be that guy? Is he that good?

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                      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                      This is a sportscience episode featuring Kenny Vaccaro, I think that he would be sick as a free safety, as they are saying he scored in the 90th precentile along with Joe Haden. That would make our secondary pretty awesome. I think that picking KV would be a bigger boost than adding a CB, right?

                      The only thing that scares me is that he looks so relaxed and effortless while doing all this. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

                      The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                        Would it be a reach on Vaccaro taking him at 6 if he's going to be an Elite FS for the next 10 years?

                        Which in your opinion is more important. A #2 CB or a #1 FS? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm actually serious.

                        It would be Ideal to trade down slightly and pick up second rounder and use that one on a Cornerback if he's going to be the number two right?

                        I would love to have 2 Elite Cornerbacks out there every game. I'm concerned though that I don't think we have a FS on the roster that would start on many other teams... Would Vaccaro be that guy? Is he that good?

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @poeticg said:

                        Would it be a reach on Vaccaro taking him at 6 if he's going to be an Elite FS for the next 10 years?

                        Which in your opinion is more important. A #2 CB or a #1 FS? I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm actually serious.

                        It would be Ideal to trade down slightly and pick up second rounder and use that one on a Cornerback if he's going to be the number two right?

                        I would love to have 2 Elite Cornerbacks out there every game. I'm concerned though that I don't think we have a FS on the roster that would start on many other teams... Would Vaccaro be that guy? Is he that good?

                        I think the consensus opinion on here is that trading down a few spots, picking up a second rounder, and then addressing CB and FS with the first two picks would represent a successful bit of manoeuvring, assuming we draft the right players - something like Rhodes in the first and The best available FS in the second (as long as it's not a reach). Whether it's Reid, Vaccaro, Swearinger is not a huge issue. After all, T.J. Ward was a second rounder and is now one of the top SS in the league. I like the sounds of Haden - Ward - Swearinger - Rhodes. Equally good would be Haden - Ward - Vaccaro - Banks. Leaves us free to target BPA from round 3 onwards. Hopefully an OG, maybe pick up 'The New Josh Cribbs' in Denard Robinson, just generally see who falls and we can pick up.

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