Steelers vs Browns: A true rivalry
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My bad.....thought I posted link. A really cool site. Check it out.
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My bad.....thought I posted link. A really cool site. Check it out.
My bad.....thought I posted link. A really cool site. Check it out.
my bad. I thought we had a super intelligent steelers fan here. but it was a still a nice find. next you will be posting articles about how it is okay to marry your kin in pittsburgh.
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didnt you read the part about the 2 cities being mirror images of each other? What you say about Pittsburgh, you say about yourself.
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Look, risking sounding like a traitor here I've got to say it.
I admire the Steelers, it's an organization with a stable front office that knows how to pick the right guys in the draft and has plenty of time to develope later round picks into quality backups or starters year in and out. They are competitive every year, always have a good or better defense that is consistently aggressive and know how to line up and smash the ball down your throats. They don't overspend on FAs and know WHEN it's time to cut ties to a guy. They're in the mix almost every season and a "bad" year is .500 or a little better. Best of all, when we were going to lose our team, they voted against the move because they know what football means to us, because it means the same to them.
I want US to be like that. Bring on all the comments about roids or cheating all you want, but 5 rings don't lie and how many of us would complain if we had won 5 superbowls since it had been put into place and we were gearing up for a possible 6th?
Don't get me wrong, I love my Browns, but if we want a model to build off of we have to look no further than our rival as to how to put a team together and keep it together.
I'm always glad to see a good post from our blue collared brethren. Grant it, we get some trolls that just won't stop with the gloating, but we've gt assholes of our own that troll their forums as well. It's a two way street. The internet is a haven for the anonymous, so every idiot that wants to rile someone up is going to do everything they can to get under your skin if you let them.
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didnt you read the part about the 2 cities being mirror images of each other? What you say about Pittsburgh, you say about yourself.
didnt you read the part about the 2 cities being mirror images of each other? What you say about Pittsburgh, you say about yourself.
you only think that because you wish you lived and cheered for all Ohio Teams except the bungals. your pathetic slime!
and besides we dont marry kin you perverted Retard!
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@winslow-s-urologist said:
And THAT is the truth that every Brownie fan here has to live with -- even when you try the sleazy trick of only giving credit to the other franchise that voted against the move.That's the hilarious irony of it all -- every time you root for whichever team happens to be playing the Steelers at the time, you're cheering for some team that thought it was just fine for the Brownies to leave town. (Unless the Steelers are playing Buffalo.) Because the fact is, every other owner in football said "screw Cleveland, who gives a crap if they have a team or not." That goes from Jerry Jones to Danny Snyder to any of those other swell guys you admire so much.
That's why Steeler fans, far from being hated here, should have the freakin' red carpet rolled out for us.
Dan Rooney said keep football in Cleveland when everyone else said screw Cleveland. And don't you ever forget it.
Well I for one don't admire any owner. And you do know that the Browns saved football for your town too. Back when the Steelers were in their multi decade slouch (yes guys actually sucked on field longer the we have in our current state. I am talking actual suckage not rivalry suckage)
βWhat Can BROWN Do For You!β Record for the year. 9-7 + or - 1 and not being swept by any team in the division. -
As I stated on another Post ,the STEELER~BROWNS Rivalry will ALWAYS BE a Rivalry. Because HISTORY still means something. Yes Cleveland is down and out. And has been that way longer than a normal Bad stretch. But they will arise from the Ashes in the Future and ALL the Hatred will Ignite , and the thing will Blow up ! I respct the Browns , because i was raised to Hate the Browns not to Disrespect them. The Rivalry lives. The Intensity is down ... it just needs a Spark. (MAngini ??) While i certainly dont look forward to Losing to Cleveland...I really Enjoyed last season when they were right in the Thick of things. It adds excitement to the Air... But then I have been Watching these teams play each other 2 times a year since 1970. Memories ...some that warp with time , but Fun stuff Bennie Cunningham TD in OT ...0-51 41-0 games... Freaking Eric Metcalf... kicking our Butts ...Ben owning the Browns and Bernie owning the Steelers ! This stuff aint life and death. It just make life a tad more enjoyable at times. ( and frustrating at others.) But in all honesty IF you think there is NO Rivalry here, are you REALLY A Fan ? OR just someone who Hopped on Board during one of the "Good Time" Runs ?
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@winslow-s-urologist said:
And THAT is the truth that every Brownie fan here has to live with -- even when you try the sleazy trick of only giving credit to the other franchise that voted against the move.That's the hilarious irony of it all -- every time you root for whichever team happens to be playing the Steelers at the time, you're cheering for some team that thought it was just fine for the Brownies to leave town. (Unless the Steelers are playing Buffalo.) Because the fact is, every other owner in football said "screw Cleveland, who gives a crap if they have a team or not." That goes from Jerry Jones to Danny Snyder to any of those other swell guys you admire so much.
That's why Steeler fans, far from being hated here, should have the freakin' red carpet rolled out for us.
Dan Rooney said keep football in Cleveland when everyone else said screw Cleveland. And don't you ever forget it.
Well I for one don't admire any owner. And you do know that the Browns saved football for your town too. Back when the Steelers were in their multi decade slouch (yes guys actually sucked on field longer the we have in our current state. I am talking actual suckage not rivalry suckage)
Well I for one don't admire any owner. And you do know that the Browns saved football for your town too. Back when the Steelers were in their multi decade slouch (yes guys actually sucked on field longer the we have in our current state. I am talking actual suckage not rivalry suckage)
There's 2 different threads about this rivalry for some reason so here's my reply to the other one as well:
I think free agency in the modern era of sports diminishes rivalries to an extent when a Rod Woodson goes and plays for the Baltimore Ravens or an Earl Holmes and Orpheus Roye leaves Pittsburgh for a couple more digits in Cleveland. In baseball there's Red Sox becoming Yankees and Yankees becoming Red Sox leaving the rivalry between the fan bases.
One thing I WILL say is that Pittsburgh has cherished the draft over the years so guys grow up in the league with more of a connection to the local fanbase and vice versa. Baltimore is similar (Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, T-Suggs, McClain, Flacco are draftees).
Unfortunately, the Cleveland Browns have remained over-reliant on free agency so many of the guys coming here care more about the game checks than calling Cleveland their NFL home and connecting with the fanbase. It's also wreaked havoc on continuity and capanomics. There's a couple exceptions to that staement and some of those were local Ohio kids (JJ and Bentley) - others were Steinbach and Rogers wanting to prove their value and commitment to a team and it's fans. I'd probably like free agency better if we found more Steinbachs and Rogers types who actually justified their cap commitments. Last but not least, free agency means severe overpayment to guys like Jason Fisk, Kevin Shaffer, Joe Andruzzi, Antwan Peek, and Gary Baxter (3rd highest paid player on our team and it's not like he came to us with a Deion Sanders resume).
If our soon-to-be GM is deeper than previous lip services, we're in business to make this more of a rivalry between the players. I'm being honest when I say I haven't found guys I connect with today the way I did so with Ozzie Newsome, Clay Matthews, Greg Pruitt, Mike Johnson, Hanford Dixon, Brian Sipe, Ernest Byner, Jerry Sherk and even EDDIE Johnson for that matter. I'm TRYING to but when I hear our cap isn't healthy and we're stuck on pause averaging 4-5 wins a year, faith that HISTORY will be restored is my biggest bond. I actually LIKE seeing Lerner's sincerity to better the situation. If we're being honest, the Rooneys had a similar start until they looked to a Paul brown pupil to put them on the NFL map. We've come full circle to Lerner trying to hire the RIGHT guy. Perseverance works better than sticking your head between your legs and wussing out. Hey Steeler fans tell Angelina Ghoo-lie his former friends say hello on your message boards.
- Tom F.
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As I stated on another Post ,the STEELER~BROWNS Rivalry will ALWAYS BE a Rivalry. Because HISTORY still means something. Yes Cleveland is down and out. And has been that way longer than a normal Bad stretch. But they will arise from the Ashes in the Future and ALL the Hatred will Ignite , and the thing will Blow up ! I respct the Browns , because i was raised to Hate the Browns not to Disrespect them. The Rivalry lives. The Intensity is down ... it just needs a Spark. (MAngini ??) While i certainly dont look forward to Losing to Cleveland...I really Enjoyed last season when they were right in the Thick of things. It adds excitement to the Air... But then I have been Watching these teams play each other 2 times a year since 1970. Memories ...some that warp with time , but Fun stuff Bennie Cunningham TD in OT ...0-51 41-0 games... Freaking Eric Metcalf... kicking our Butts ...Ben owning the Browns and Bernie owning the Steelers ! This stuff aint life and death. It just make life a tad more enjoyable at times. ( and frustrating at others.) But in all honesty IF you think there is NO Rivalry here, are you REALLY A Fan ? OR just someone who Hopped on Board during one of the "Good Time" Runs ?
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
As I stated on another Post ,the STEELER~BROWNS Rivalry will ALWAYS BE a Rivalry. Because HISTORY still means something. Yes Cleveland is down and out. And has been that way longer than a normal Bad stretch. But they will arise from the Ashes in the Future and ALL the Hatred will Ignite , and the thing will Blow up ! I respct the Browns , because i was raised to Hate the Browns not to Disrespect them. The Rivalry lives. The Intensity is down ... it just needs a Spark. (MAngini ??) While i certainly dont look forward to Losing to Cleveland...I really Enjoyed last season when they were right in the Thick of things. It adds excitement to the Air... But then I have been Watching these teams play each other 2 times a year since 1970. Memories ...some that warp with time , but Fun stuff Bennie Cunningham TD in OT ...0-51 41-0 games... Freaking Eric Metcalf... kicking our Butts ...Ben owning the Browns and Bernie owning the Steelers ! This stuff aint life and death. It just make life a tad more enjoyable at times. ( and frustrating at others.) But in all honesty IF you think there is NO Rivalry here, are you REALLY A Fan ? OR just someone who Hopped on Board during one of the "Good Time" Runs ?So true freak.. win or lose those were great years steeler fans want the rivalry to heat up again but for browns fans the hatred level couldnt be much higher.. the desire of us browns fans to beat the squeelers is so great that most of us would be ok with a record of 2-14 as long as it was a sweep against the steelers..lol
The squeelers are going to win sunday and go on to the superbowl to win it as well..congrats on having a great owner and a solid football program in place as usual maybe soon we will catch up and rekindle the greatest rivalry in the nfl!
As it stands right now its a one sided beatdown thats not deserved by either clubs fans...
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
As I stated on another Post ,the STEELER~BROWNS Rivalry will ALWAYS BE a Rivalry. Because HISTORY still means something. Yes Cleveland is down and out. And has been that way longer than a normal Bad stretch. But they will arise from the Ashes in the Future and ALL the Hatred will Ignite , and the thing will Blow up ! I respct the Browns , because i was raised to Hate the Browns not to Disrespect them. The Rivalry lives. The Intensity is down ... it just needs a Spark. (MAngini ??) While i certainly dont look forward to Losing to Cleveland...I really Enjoyed last season when they were right in the Thick of things. It adds excitement to the Air... But then I have been Watching these teams play each other 2 times a year since 1970. Memories ...some that warp with time , but Fun stuff Bennie Cunningham TD in OT ...0-51 41-0 games... Freaking Eric Metcalf... kicking our Butts ...Ben owning the Browns and Bernie owning the Steelers ! This stuff aint life and death. It just make life a tad more enjoyable at times. ( and frustrating at others.) But in all honesty IF you think there is NO Rivalry here, are you REALLY A Fan ? OR just someone who Hopped on Board during one of the "Good Time" Runs ?So true freak.. win or lose those were great years steeler fans want the rivalry to heat up again but for browns fans the hatred level couldnt be much higher.. the desire of us browns fans to beat the squeelers is so great that most of us would be ok with a record of 2-14 as long as it was a sweep against the steelers..lol
The squeelers are going to win sunday and go on to the superbowl to win it as well..congrats on having a great owner and a solid football program in place as usual maybe soon we will catch up and rekindle the greatest rivalry in the nfl!
As it stands right now its a one sided beatdown thats not deserved by either clubs fans...
So true freak.. win or lose those were great years steeler fans want the rivalry to heat up again but for browns fans the hatred level couldnt be much higher.. the desire of us browns fans to beat the squeelers is so great that most of us would be ok with a record of 2-14 as long as it was a sweep against the steelers..lol
The squeelers are going to win sunday and go on to the superbowl to win it as well..congrats on having a great owner and a solid football program in place as usual maybe soon we will catch up and rekindle the greatest rivalry in the nfl!
As it stands right now its a one sided beatdown thats not deserved by either clubs fans...
Well for one..When we lose...AND We will... WE Wont know what to think or do. And i have a feeling it will be anti-climatic for you guys ! At least the "Smarter Fans" among you. It will probably STUN Most of us. But come on its GOT to happen sooner than later. Oh well Time to try to have a Raven Roast Sunday and SHUT Ray Lewis`s Criminal Mind up !
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