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Irs Explodes Into A Huge Scandal Now

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  • I thought I heard it was only one liberal group. And one attorney alone is representing well over two dozen groups.

    Numbers are being bandied about. Even an individual from Ill. He ran against Durbin there for a senate seat, back in 96.

    And Ms. Lerner was giving him serious crap about allegations that eventually were proven in court to be completely untrue.

    In meantime, all the media was asking him about being investigated by the IRS. Ms. Lerner, per this guy, Sivoti something?

    told him she'd drop the entire investigation at one point, one on one...if he would drop out of politics forever. He asked her to

    put that in writing, she declined. After he lost the election, and won in court....Ms. Lerner was....promoted in the IRS. Go figure.

    Listening to the testimony before Congress now.... it's devastating. Others who were singled out... There are more and more groups

    to be heard from. It doesn't seem to be possible that it wasn't political targeting, and "if" that is really true...it's destructive to what remains

    of the Obamao regime. Some of them have received intimidating letters, and many inappropriate demands for subjective information,

    as well as demands for lists of donors and volunteers...some of the letters came from Ms. Lerner herself. I'd call it dangerous, corrupt

    and Un-American government behavior. It threatens the freedoms of all of us.

  • The IRS has even apologized for targeting Tea Party groups. And one leader of a Tea Party group said the entire time, from 2010 til after

    the election, they were so busy answering a bunch of questions.....that they couldn't function because some donors

    were not donating because of the donor lists made public. And threats to file charges of perjury to anyone who answered incorrectly.

    Like, "Will any of your volunteers or members ever run for elective office?" etc.

    IRS apologizes for targeting tea party groups
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service apologized Friday for what it acknowledged was "inappropriate" targeting of conservative political groups ...
    Democrats Offer No Witnesses at IRS Scandal Hearing …(No ...
    www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../democrats-offer-no-witnesses-at-irs-scandal...
    5 hours ago – Nearly 500 conservative groups were targeted by the IRS during their application process for tax exempt status. No liberal groups were ...
  • The other big revelation of the hearing was that it's not even clear if the majority of the groups targeted for special scrutiny and caught in the IRS's net were conservative ones.

    Asked by one of the committee's Democrats if, in theory, liberal groups could have been in the majority, George asserted, "That is correct."

    Of the 296 groups selected for special scrutiny, 72 had "Tea Party" in their title, 13 had "Patriot", and 11 had some variant of "9/12," he said. Many of the 200 other groups rolled up in the controversy were "agnostic" or not clearly conservative.

    New York Democratic Rep. Jose Serrano said that at least 48 of the targeted groups were not conservative ones.

  • Republicans will overplay their hand on this. They always do. Mark my word.

    This is likely a small ball scandal that will involve IRS employees trying (improperly) to handle their caseload. Like with Benghazi, Republicans are so desperate to believe that this was ordered out of the political wing of the White House and involves top Obama officials that they'll go nuts trying to prove it, and will end up losing even more credibility with the public because of it.

  • Compared to the democrats, it is impossible to overplay their hand more than dems always do.

    "overplay" is just wishful thinking by Obamaolots.

  • Overplay?

    Certainly that's what Obama's supporters will claim from the very beginning.

    Partly because most of them don't have to worry about the IRS anyway.

    Second even if it is illegal, well, it hurts conservatives.

    And the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    But inquuries will be made, heads will roll and the president will be shocked, shocked I say, to see if there is gambling going on in Rick's Cafe American.

    WSS

  • Steve, your record on predicting how these scandals will play out is a miserable one. You're second to only Cal in imagining things that aren't there. And you'll be wrong again. Because you're insinuating, with zero evidence, that this came from the White House. Just like you did with the Benghazi talking points. And you were wrong about that too. You're always wrong.

    Republicans will overplay their hand. Because they want to believe exactly what you believe, so they'll try and try until they get there. Even if there's no evidence.

    You guys are incredibly predictable.

  • did I just predict that Obama would be indicted?

    nope.

    you've got to give up the paranoia once in awhile.

    WSS

  • No, dipshit, you suggested with your Casablanca example that Obama obviously knew this was going on and approved of it, but will pretend he didn't. Unless you're missing the point of that scene in Casablanca, which is possible.

    And the "most Obama supporters don't have to worry about the IRS anyway" ...Jesus Christ.

    With your feet firmly planted in the fever swamp.

  • haha even Brokaw said that it would be a lot bigger deal if the parties were reversed. Hardly a limbbaugh acolyte.

    but yes I'd be damn surprised if nobody any higher up than a handful of Cincinnati flunkeys had the slightest clue.

    as for proof? Well probably it won't go to the top.

    pleading the fifth was a nice touch though.

    WSS

  • That's what they've got to find out: who, if anyone, told them to do this. It'll probably be some mid-level civil servant in the Washington office.

    And, like with Benghazi, you'll all have to imagine how it was Obama and his political team.

    Oh, so close!

  • No, it was senior level WH advisors.

    who, never tell the president anything. Of course.

    Why, the IRS visited with Obamao 157 times. But never, ever talked to him except to

    ask about what Obamao had for breakfast. Of course.

    sad.

  • Yeah, that 157 times thing isn't true. It's bullshit. You just get your news from propaganda outlets.

    And there's no evidence that it involved "senior level WH advisors." None. That's bullshit, too.

    If you find some evidence that this was ordered out of the White House, I'll be right with you demanding that they be run out of town and brought up on charges. But there's no indication that's the case, and they'd have to be criminally stupid to do something like that. I find it highly unlikely.

    But this is how the right wing will overplay their hand. Because they imagine the reality in their heads is evidence of actual reality.

  • It isn't bullshit, Heck. I have plenty of links backing me up on the information.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/04/Obama-Attack-Dog-Met-With-IRS-Chief-at-White-House

  • Hahaha. That was classic. It's not bullshit! I've got links to back me up!

    And then Breitbart.

    Old man, you're just proving my point. You get news from the ill-informed and the propagandists, so you don't know why there's nothing to the "157 visits! story. And even if I tell you the truth you won't accept it. You'll still believe the bullshit. Because you want to.

    And this is what is wrong with your Party. It's filled with people like you who get bad information from bad "news" sources and believe it because they want to.

    You have no tether to reality, so no one takes you seriously.

    Do you want me to try? It'll be fun. We all know what's going to happen. And I'm doing it with Steve in the other thread. You guys can't accept the reality you don't want to accept. You love your opinions and prejudices too much, even when they're not true.

  • haha. Where are your links to back up your "bullshit" ???

    Meanwhile, "overreaching" ???

    Just getting started. Jay Leno got a giant round of applause:

    http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/06/04/jay-leno-suggests-obama-should-shut-down-irs-not-gitmo/

  • Schulman didn't visit the White House 157 times. He was cleared to visit the White House 157 times. How many times can they prove he actually attended these meetings?

    11. 11 times.

    Almost all of those visits were also in executive offices buildings, not the White House. And almost all had to do with the working group on health care reform.

    There is no story there. None.

    Do you accept this reality? Will you? Of course not.

  • I can't waste any more time talking to you.

  • Do you have links, or not? I read that article about it being 11 times. But that is bogus, too. I go by what all I read, all over the place.

    You go by emotionally defending liberalism and liberal politicians. Alan Colmes is more objective than you.

    Back it up, or shut it up. I know that the question is out there "he was only approved to visit 157 times, blah blah....

    Still, your claim that WH advisors were never talked to is a joke. Link it, or clink it.