Mascots
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I didn't know you were drunk, I thought you were just playing stupid. You don't really think Snyder has any animosity towards Indians do you ?
as for liberalism destroying the entire race look at what's left of the Native Americans. Its pretty disgusting and the end product of the programs you love so much.
if you were serious about the plight of the Indians you'd probably be bitching about that but you aren't, and you aren't.
WSS
I wasn't drunk. I was suggesting you were. I can't imagine anyone blaming "liberalism" for the intergenerational plight of the Native Americans. I mean, good God.
That might be the most mindlessly partisan piece of bullshit ever uttered on a board famous for mindlessly partisan pieces of bullshit.
I wasn't drunk. I was suggesting you were. I can't imagine anyone blaming "liberalism" for the intergenerational plight of the Native Americans. I mean, good God.
That might be the most mindlessly partisan piece of bullshit ever uttered on a board famous for mindlessly partisan pieces of bullshit.
Honestly? You think the entire system of separation and reservations and so forth has been good for them?
Yikes.
WSS
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I wasn't drunk. I was suggesting you were. I can't imagine anyone blaming "liberalism" for the intergenerational plight of the Native Americans. I mean, good God.
That might be the most mindlessly partisan piece of bullshit ever uttered on a board famous for mindlessly partisan pieces of bullshit.
I laughed at that as well
I laughed at that as well
of course that's the type of laughter, unconnected to rational thought, that one might hear drifting down the halls of a mental asylum. So...
WSS
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Dear God, man. Just stop. Just stop.
Cal wouldn't even blame the plight of the Indians on "liberalism."
Let's try to forget this ever happened.
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Let's try this: why don't you accept that "Redskins" is a derogatory term for Native Americans? Clearly, Native Americans consider it offensive. And it's easy to imagine why - just imagine a team named "The Yellowskins" with a picture of an Asian in a conical hat, or "the Blackskins" with a picture of a black man.
Explain how you come to the conclusion that "Redskins" is not derogatory. Because i didn't think you'd go there.
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Dear God, man. Just stop. Just stop.
Cal wouldn't even blame the plight of the Indians on "liberalism."
Let's try to forget this ever happened.
Dear God, man. Just stop. Just stop.
Cal wouldn't even blame the plight of the Indians on "liberalism."
Let's try to forget this ever happened.
your typical response after a butt smacking.
this one calls for a "Heck translation..."
WSS
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Oh God. Oh God. I see a man completely embarrassing himself. He sees himself triumphant, with his foot on my chest, the recipient of cheers from a crowd that isn't there.
This is so sad.
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Do yourself a favor, Steve. Try the question. Defend yourself on the subject we're discussing in the thread.
Give us your explanation as to why the term "Redskins" isn't even derogatory in the first place. Or is it that once you admit it's derogatory it makes it harder to make the case to keep it as the name of a major professional sports franchise?
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Good job, diehard. I see you've changed your picture from gay Popeye to the most racist version of chief Wahoo to show your contempt. Maybe you could Photoshop a big jug of booze in there. Then you'd be really hard-core.
The fact that it offends you makes me happy.
The fact that it offends you makes me happy.
It doesn't offend me. Sorry. I'm not an Indian. However I have the ability to emphathize with American Indians which you obviously don't. The era is bygone for a reason.
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Oh God. Oh God. I see a man completely embarrassing himself. He sees himself triumphant, with his foot on my chest, the recipient of cheers from a crowd that isn't there.
This is so sad.
Oh God. Oh God. I see a man completely embarrassing himself. He sees himself triumphant, with his foot on my chest, the recipient of cheers from a crowd that isn't there.
This is so sad.
and the man is you buddy boy. Because you're a coward and realize that there's no way even for you to spin a positive story out of the reservation system you revert to your same blather. Go ahead dude sing the praises. Since you can't you are probably embarrassed by it. So you compensate but over reacting to silly shit like this. Makes you feel like you've done something!
And frankly I don't think any term is derogatory unless it is meant in a derogatory manner.
I don't think it is and you don't think it is.
so I will stick with my original answer, no.
oh by the way a short rewrite for your above scenario, my foot is on your ass not your chest.
WSS
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Oh, that made me laugh out loud.
Because you typed liberals are responsible for the plight of Indians and we all rolled our eyes, and then you typed something about reservations and I refused to dignify its stupidity ...yes, Steve. You hath slain me.
You'll excuse me if I get back to work. Sometimes the best way to make you look like an ass is to let you talk.
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so that's your defense, that's your praise of this system? Blah blah blah?
that's not a win for me it's just a forfeit on your end.
better than nothing I guess.
WSS
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This is a whole new level of pathetic, even for you. Even for CAL.
If you can take the 500 or so years of history that we have between Native Americans and the European settlers, and the American government, and chalk up the problems of Native Americans to "liberalism" ...and then not only that, you're then going to insist that this isn't something you deserve to be laughed at for, but is so true I can't take or refute it, then you're dumber than I ever gave you credit for.
Holy fuck.
What's the matter with you? Stop ruining the board with your bullshit. This is a thread about sports mascots. You want to make it about how liberalism ruined the American Indian? Are you fucking serious?
Take it up with Cal. Have a ball.
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Did liberals kill all the Indians and put the rest in reservations? The Indian wars were long and both parties had representatives as president during them. I'm pretty sure you can't blame it all on liberals.
Come on, Steve, I know you and heck have to go at each other but you can't put it all on liberals. That's pretty ridiculous.
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For what its worth the Indian removal act was signed by Andrew Jackson. While he was a democrat I'm not sure you can call him a liberal in the way people like cal and diehard think liberals act.
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Damn librals are anarchists and should be run out of this here country.
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I think it's offensive as all hell, but I'm attached to the logo, and I don't want them to give it up. It's one of the most recognizable logos in sports, and the reason the Indians haven't given it up is because it sells like hotcakes.
I was driving through Cherokee, NC back in the late 80s, and the local Native Americans were selling Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, Washington Redskins, and Florida State Seminoles pennants/hats/flags on several corner stands.
I guess it's only offensive if you don't profit from it.
I was driving through Cherokee, NC back in the late 80s, and the local Native Americans were selling Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, Washington Redskins, and Florida State Seminoles pennants/hats/flags on several corner stands.
I guess it's only offensive if you don't profit from it.
The reason I mentioned how profitable the logo was is to show that it's the only reason Chief Wahoo is still being used. It's brand recognition. That doesn't make it any less offensive, and if you check what I said again, you'll see that I start out by saying that it's offensive. I'm just attached to it.
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This is a whole new level of pathetic, even for you. Even for CAL.
If you can take the 500 or so years of history that we have between Native Americans and the European settlers, and the American government, and chalk up the problems of Native Americans to "liberalism" ...and then not only that, you're then going to insist that this isn't something you deserve to be laughed at for, but is so true I can't take or refute it, then you're dumber than I ever gave you credit for.
Holy fuck.
What's the matter with you? Stop ruining the board with your bullshit. This is a thread about sports mascots. You want to make it about how liberalism ruined the American Indian? Are you fucking serious?
Take it up with Cal. Have a ball.
This is a whole new level of pathetic, even for you. Even for CAL.
If you can take the 500 or so years of history that we have between Native Americans and the European settlers, and the American government, and chalk up the problems of Native Americans to "liberalism" ...and then not only that, you're then going to insist that this isn't something you deserve to be laughed at for, but is so true I can't take or refute it, then you're dumber than I ever gave you credit for.
Holy fuck.
What's the matter with you? Stop ruining the board with your bullshit. This is a thread about sports mascots. You want to make it about how liberalism ruined the American Indian? Are you fucking serious?
Take it up with Cal. Have a ball.
Yeah, I'm with heck on this one, Steve. Not sure how you can blame the plight of Native Americans on liberalism. Is your argument because reservations exist? Because reservations were a liberal idea? I honestly have no idea where you're going with that thought.
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As we know, there are few ideas that liberals cherish more than giving Indians blankets infected with small pox. It's like Kennedy - we just pine for that era.
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Actually, Steve is CORRECT.
Want to know why ? No, you don't. But I'll happily tell you anyways. The reason liberals are responsible
for the plight of the American Indians is:
Because liberalism attempts, and succeeds with some groups, to create dependency on the government.
That is the only way a liberal/marxist/communist government can thrive and remain in power. Create dependency
on the government. That way you can control them, make them subservient to your wishes, and that's a fact, jack.
The indians ended up being forced by trick or physical force, to a gov reservation. They were totally dependent on the gov
for existence. Their way of life ended.
More than once, libs like heck have tried to control this board, in content. They tried to make everyone else subservient to
their complaints, mass leverage, and constant victimization and complaints.
Liberals/marxist radicals in our wh and Obamao's regime across the board are buying way over a billion rounds of ammo,
confiscating the phone records of 130 Americans, have drones flying over OUR skies, are attempting to discredit armed Americans
with the "Fast and Furious" fraud.; they lied repeatedly for weeks about Benghazi, and now they are lying about the IRS
singling out all groups and individuals who won't be subservient to their agenda.
Then heck goes constantly stupid ass, and denies any wrongdoing by Obamao's corrupt and out of control regime, won't
back up his denials with links, etc, to back up why he denies the truth about things, and is down to trying to give Steve crap
to shut him up.
Well, THAT is never going to happen anymore than all of us going hippie and having our own Woodstock in the middle
of Lake Erie.
Too bad heck went Wizard of Oz so much recently. He's lost his fraudulent luster. He's getting out of control - he is even
lashing out with "bullshit" a lot, apparently he's tired of several of us kicking his ass.
Libs inherently have some sick, desperate need to control their surroundings. Hell, they go ballistic in a lot of homeowners associations.
It validates their fight against their own surmised inferiority. They fight everything. And want to control it.
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And, if heck thinks what I just said about the American Indians.... is his fallback cya "bullshit"
he doesn't want to. He's just be wrong again, as most of the time.
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