Irs Explodes Into A Huge Scandal Now
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So here's what we know now about the "political targeting" of right wing groups:
- It started with a self-described "conservative Republican" manager, who asked a screening agent to come up with a formula to search for these groups, because they were overwhelmed by the number of them. Obviously, this was not done for political reasons, but for reasons related to the IRS' mission.
- They targeted dozens of progressive groups as well.
- The number of conservative groups approved far outnumber the number of progressive groups approved. (They were also more numerous to begin with, so it makes sense.)
...Does anyone want to tell me what the scandal is now? I don't get it.
Just like with Benghazi, where you all creamed your jeans hoping for some directive from Obama, or the political arm of the White House, you've been left with a far more boring explanation - this is nothing but the usual bureaucratic DC bullshit that happens every day.
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so, independent investigation or no?
WSS
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No. It doesn't look like they have any cause to call for one. Until they come up with something that suggests wrongdoing, obviously you wouldn't spend money on an investigation.
Which isn't to say that they couldn't come up with something, but I don't see it.
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They've got to investigate the Washington office of the IRS and see if there's any evidence that this was directed out of that office.
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Claiming the fifth, as Ms. Lerner did, is a red flag that something is very wrong.
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WASHINGTON – A misfired email from an Internal Revenue Service employee in Ohio alerted officials in Washington that conservative groups were being targeted a full year earlier than previously acknowledged, Fox News confirms.Transcripts from interviews held with IRS employees in Cincinnati show that managers in Washington knew about the heightened scrutiny put on Tea Party groups applying for tax-exempt status in July 2010.The transcript, which was initially reviewed and reported by Reuters, apparently shows that Cincinnati IRS official Elizabeth Hofacre was in communication with D.C.-based IRS attorney Carter Hull. Hofacre was put in charge of handling tax-exempt status applications from conservative groups by her Cincinnati boss, she claims.According to the report, Hofacre was asked to summarize her initial findings and send it via email to a small group of IRS workers, including a few in the D.C. tax-exempt unit. Mistakenly, she sent the email to everybody in the Washington IRS Exempt Organizations Rulings and Agreements unit.Hofacre’s Cincinnati bureau used a “be-on-the-lookout” (BOLO) list that included the words “Tea Party” and “Patriot” that was used to flag conservative applications for extra scrutiny. Many targeted groups have come forward in the days since the scandal broke and said the IRS held up their applications, asked invasive questions and tried other tactics to slow the approval process.Still, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration has said there is no evidence that the screening list was created by high-level IRS officials or the Treasury Department, or was tied to the White House.Separately, at a hearing Monday, the watchdog who exposed the IRS' targeting testified nobody in the Ohio office being blamed for the scandal would tell his investigators who directed the program, as the new IRS chief vowed to "get to the bottom" of that growing question.Lois Lerner, the IRS official who set off the controversy, has said that she first learned of the BOLO list in June 2011, and that she ordered the partisan criteria to be removed immediately.Transcripts with IRS officials, though, have shown them claiming officials in Washington requested the lists.Fox News' Mike Emanuel contributed to this report. -
Benghazi coverup. NSA coverup. IRS coverup. Fast and Furious coverup, AP coverup.
I mean, it was testified before Congress, that Ms. Lerner said that the pro-life group, if the leader
would promise not to picket any more abortion clinics, that the harrassment from the IRS would immediately end....
yeah. Political targeting, and we still need more information. And Ms. Lerner is on paid leave..pleading the fifth....
why? And Holder and Obamao are trying desperately to keep a FISA court judgement that their spying violated
the Constitution.... secret... It's all a mess. This Obamao regime is more Mao than the joke I started back in the day.
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And here's where all these scandals will live on no matter what we learn - in the demented minds of people like Cal. Who still think Benghazi was a "cover-up." Who'll still think the IRS was a White House plot.
You'll be screaming about this stuff all the way to the 2016 election, and the rest of the country will think you've lost it even more than before.
One day, Roger Ailes is going to realize that his big idea ruined the Republican Party.
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before you get too far off topic here in your honest opinion why do you think anyone would plead the fifth in this situation?
WSS
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To protect oneself from self-incrimination, naturally.
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Well that's why I asked for your opinion what do you suppose she might be incriminating herself with? I mean if there's absolutely nothing wrong going on.....
Do you believe she's probably done anything illegal or protecting someone else? Andif so shouldn't someone get to the bottom of it?
WSS
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But that's not what "self-incrimination" means. She might have done nothing wrong. She might have done something illegal. We don't know. Pleading the 5th isn't an admission she's done something wrong.
One should be able to imagine why a person in the national spotlight might not want to have their case and their reputation adjudicated in the press and by Darrell Issa and the House Oversight Committee, no?
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the fifth refers to self incrimination, not refusal to tell the possibly damaging truth about someone you are protecting.
And, heckbunker, you apparently are enraged that I countered your liberal support crap, with stuff
that directly contradicts your crap. See? You will personally attack anyone on this board who sees things differently than you do.
Coward. BTW, you are the one who brought up E. Germany, moron. Oh, THAT's an issue that bothers you, so it's okay to go "batshit crazy".
You've long since become the "dick" of the board, since you keep screwing around with facts and definitions and subjects.
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Besides, again, Ms. Lerner, as testified before Congress, tried to "blackmail" a conservative group leader, ...
saying that if the group would stop/promise not to picket abortion clinics, the harassment by the IRS would immediately go away.
That is probly what the fifth is all about.
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I won't even start a new thread about the Benghazi coverup you deny is happening:
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oops. heck stupidly shoots off his mouth to support his perfect Obamao:
More real stuff:
Whistleblower Exclusive: The Benghazi cover-up is the proxy battle with the war with Iran -
is heck as smart as stupid Lanny Davis?
or, IS HE Lanny Davis?
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2421958336001/who-is-the-benghazi-cover-up-trying-to-protect/
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Cal's link:
Steve King: Obama's Benghazi Cover-up Is Worse Than Watergate
Yes, Steve King. The dumbest, nuttiest Congressman in the House says something = proof.
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No, you infer I am the only one who thinks there's a Benghazi coverup.
Actually, per a poll in the Times, 60 percent of Americans think that there is one.
Sure, half of America disagrees with you, Heck. Too bad you can't ridicule every single of them, too.
Maybe Obamao's gigantic NSA database would help you manipulate public opinion on the board. That is what it's for,
as far as Obamao is concerned.
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Steve, I'd just be wary. Pleading the 5th doesn't mean you've admitted something wrong, or something illegal. It's a Constitutional protection against self-incrimination, which is different from protection from guilt.
Additionally, if you look at the facts, I think you can see where this "scandal" is headed. And it's that - you guessed it! - the Republicans have completely overplayed their hand.
Darrell Issa is not the guy you want leading the charge. Super smart, but also slimy. As you probably know, he was basically a scam artist as a young man. Right now he's disclosing stuff that fits his narrative because he knows what plays in the Fox/Rush/Drudge world. But this is likely to add up to a whole lot of nothing. Bureaucrats cutting corners.
Like with Benghazi, you don't want to find yourself laying out your conspiracy theories and describing how it clearly went down, and that the White House was involved, and how if you don't believe that you're just naive! ...Only to find that once again you were completely wrong.
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