Everett Golson No Longer Enrolled At Notre Dame

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@blowe said:
Not Browns news. No one cares about Notre Dame

Too bad.

DieHardBrownsFan

I'd wager there are a lot more Notre Dame fans here then Michipuke.

ClevelandFanForLife

He allegedly cheated on a final.

Assmunch

@clevelandfanforlife said:
He allegedly cheated on a final.

If, in fact, Golson cheated on a final he should not be allowedto return to school and play football, which he says he is going to do in 2014.

MLD Woody

@diehardbrownsfan said:
I'd wager there are a lot more Notre Dame fans here then Michipuke.

Alright?

Zombo

I'll go first .... I like Notre Same and hate Michigan.

Z

Canton Mike

Zombo said:

I'll go first .... I like Notre Same and hate Michigan.

Z

Ditto.

Mike

MLD Woody

Strange people I guess

Erie Dawg

Probably because Michigan's a queer school.

MLD Woody

@erie-dawg said:
Probably because Michigan's a queer school.

You are just a simple, scared, closeted little man, aren't you?

Erie Dawg

@mld-woody said:

You are just a simple, scared, closeted little man, aren't you?

Nope just stating the facts rated 5th in the country.

Here is the review;

The University of Michigan-Ann Arbor

Positives: This campus is known mostly for its colossal student body and football team (which means lots of "curious" athletes!), but what many don't realize is that it has perhaps one of the country's finest musical theater programs.

Negatives: Do you know how cold it gets in Michigan? Also, there's not much to do in town off-campus, but with a campus this large, it shouldn't matter.

Which Gays Should Go There: Show queens.

MLD Woody

You're like a 12 year old

Erie Dawg

So your basicly saying that you can't refute the facts... I'm sure its a decent school though.

MLD Woody

I wouldn't know about the gay scene in AA. I'm sorry I can't help you with your inquiry. I think our student body president was gay though.

I do know the school is easily better than any in Ohio though. Part of the reason I ended up there.

Erie Dawg

Didn't have any enquiries

The Gipper

@mld-woody said:

I wouldn't know about the gay scene in AA. I'm sorry I can't help you with your inquiry. I think our student body president was gay though.

I do know the school is easily better than any in Ohio though. Part of the reason I ended up there.

We have had this discussion before. Michigan isn't better than any in Ohio. It has a good academic reputation among very large universities, but there are a number of smaller, liberal arts colleges here that are considered superior. (and yes, my son just graduated from one of them).

And among universities it can depend on the particular program. e.g. I would certainly not rank Akron U or Kent State overall as better than Meshuguna....but Akron's engineering program is considered top notch....as is Kent State Fashion design program.

As for overall, Case Western is considered about on par with Mich...as is Miami, Oh.

MLD Woody

To your first line, I'm not talking about the States. Hell I'd like to work in the Cleveland area.

Almost nothing you said their is true. Maybe among 50+ year olds that have lived in Ohio their whole life though.

Akron engineering doesn't sniff Michigan man...

In what world is Miami (OH) "on par"?

If I'm coming off as an ass I'm sorry, but I find thus ridiculous

The Gipper

@mld-woody said:

To your first line, I'm not talking about the States. Hell I'd like to work in the Cleveland area.

Almost nothing you said their is true. Maybe among 50+ year olds that have lived in Ohio their whole life though.

Akron engineering doesn't sniff Michigan man...

In what world is Miami (OH) "on par"?

If I'm coming off as an ass I'm sorry, but I find thus ridiculous

Of course. And ignorant, arrogant man would...and did.

Oberlin, Kenyon, Denison, Wooster are all superior academic institutions to Mich....but of course much smaller....with fewer programs (no engineering/business schools there)

And I am absolutely right about Kent State and is Fashion Design school. Here are the top 20 Fashion schools in America:

1. PARSONS, THE NEW SCHOOL FOR DESIGN

2. FASHION INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY

3. PRATT

4. KENT STATE UNIVERSITY

5. ACADEMY OF ART UNIVERSITY

6. SAVANNAH COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN

7. RHODE ISLAND SCHOOL OF DESIGN

8. DREXEL UNIVERSITY

9. OTIS COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN

10. COLUMBUS COLLEGE OF ART AND DESIGN

11. CALIFORNIA COLLEGE OF ARTS

12. UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI

13. FASHION INSTITUTE OF DESIGN AND MERCHANDISING

14. SCHOOL OF THE ART INSTITUTE OF CHICAGO

15. MASSACHUSETTS COLLEGE OF ART

16. OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY

17. UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI

18. COLUMBIA COLLEGE

19. BAYLOR UNIVERSITY

20. LIM COLLEGE

As for Mich and Case US News has those 2 ranked very close. Mich is 29, Case is 37.

Bottom line is: where would you send your kids. I am happy about the schools I have sent my kids to.

One of mine just graduated from Kenyon in molecular biology and now works for the Univ. of Minnesota. On the job 10 days now.

My daughter attends Trinity Univ. in Texas. Going to major in sports management and marketing. Maybe one day she will be a VP for the Browns.

MLD Woody

I said "almost nothing" you said was true. I don't really care about Kent States fashion program. I'm sure there are a ton of schools with some random program ranked above Michigan.

The US News compiles their overall rankings in a way that hurts public schools, by what stats they use and their weighting. I can show you other ratings that has Michigan the 15th best school in the world. At least for specific program rankings its usually peer assessment.

Calling Miami OH on par overall or Akron's engendering on par is crazy honestly. Michigan's engineering "ranking" fluctuates somewhere in the top 10 every year. Its in that group right behind MIT, Stanford, etc.

Those tiny liberal art schools are not all "superior" to Michigan academically. Just browsing real quick I see top 10, for grad school, for us for Medical Healthcare, Medical Research, Education, Engineering, Law and #14 for Business (#3 undergrad). Not to mention how heavily Umich gets recruited by businesses across the country. I'm sure they're all really great at women's studies and philosophy and what not, but I'm not sure how you compare the two types of schools. Just glancing at their "Liberal Art School Rankings" its seems most of the ones you mentioned are outside the top 30 or 40.

I'll be honest though, I'm biased. I think a lot if liberal arts degrees are a waste of time and money.

I'm happy you're happy where you sent your kids. I hope I can do the same. But when I see posts saying things like "Miami OH is on par with Michigan" or "Akron engineering is just as good as Michigan" I have to respond to call out how ridiculous that is.

The Gipper

@mld-woody said:

I said "almost nothing" you said was true. I don't really care about Kent States fashion program. I'm sure there are a ton of schools with some random program ranked above Michigan.

And Michigan has random programs here and there that are ranked high as well

The US News compiles their overall rankings in a way that hurts public schools,

Actually, I think the opposite is true.

by what stats they use and their weighting. I can show you other ratings that has Michigan the 15th best school in the world. At least for specific program rankings its usually peer assessment.

Calling Miami OH on par overall or Akron's engendering on par is crazy honestly. Michigan's engineering "ranking" fluctuates somewhere in the top 10 every year. Its in that group right behind MIT, Stanford, etc.

I guess if you want a useless engineering degree, that is fine.

Those tiny liberal art schools are not all "superior" to Michigan academically.

In the liberal arts, yes, they are.

Just browsing real quick I see top 10, for grad school, for us for Medical Healthcare, Medical Research, Education, Engineering, Law and #14 for Business (#3 undergrad). Not to mention how heavily Umich gets recruited by businesses across the country. I'm sure they're all really great at women's studies and philosophy and what not, but I'm not sure how you compare the two types of schools.

Right, you can only compare the areas involved that they each have, No liberal arts school is going to have graduate programs.

Just glancing at their "Liberal Art School Rankings" its seems most of the ones you mentioned are outside the top 30 or 40.

I'll be honest though, I'm biased. I think a lot if liberal arts degrees are a waste of time and money.

Like I said: ignorance an arrogance. Liberal Arts schools are not just "the humanities" or social sciences.. My son's degree is in Molecular Biology. My neighbor's son who also went to the same school had his degree in chemistry.

I'm happy you're happy where you sent your kids. I hope I can do the same. But when I see posts saying things like "Miami OH is on par with Michigan" or "Akron engineering is just as good as Michigan" I have to respond to call out how ridiculous that is.

Well, let's put it this way that there is no two ways around: there is one thing Ohio is much better in, and that would be football. And almost all the quality involved in Michigan football they got from Ohio. Literally only a few blocks from where I sit in my office now a guy named Bo Schembechler was born and raised. Not to mention Gary Moeller, from Lima. Oh and Brady Hoke: Dayton OH (Kettering actually). Heisman winners: Desmond Howard, Cleveland. Charles Woodson: Fremont OH.

(Oh, and who did Brady Hoke's dad play for: Woody Hayes...at Miami, OH.

And as for Miami Oh.....lets put it this way: Miami, Michigan, Kenyon are tied at one thing: they each have produced one POTUS each.

And you never know, if this country stays as warped as it sometime seems, Miami, Oh. may produce another: Paul Ryan.

(any doubt that he will run next time?)