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It Comes Down To Weeden (Or, "duh")

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @shep said:

    Boyd's amazing. He's one of a few serious candidates for Heisman and I won't be shocked if he goes #1 overall in front of Bridgewater.

    Let's wait until say week 8 to let Weeden fall flat on his face before we start discussing the 2014 qb class. I know you can't help yourself. 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    Let's wait until say week 8 to let Weeden fall flat on his face before we start discussing the 2014 qb class. I know you can't help yourself. 🙂

    If we have a 6-10 season then we'll be drafting high enough to get a QB. Assuming you'll see Clowney, Bridgewater and Boyd going top 3, probably to Buffalo, Jacksonville and Oakland. That leaves someone to pick up Manziel, which could be us. We won't be in the market for an LT, obviously, and presumably not an OLB.

    Hopefully, though, we'll be going something more like 8-8, middle of the roud. That means maybe Weeden gets to keep his job for another year while we develop a 2nd/3rd round QB. It also means we get 1st round talent at one of the spots we all have concerns about this year, with rookies, sophomores and UDFAs filling in - ILB, CB, FS, TE.

  • I believe we are drafting a QB in the first round next year regardless of how Weeden plays. With his age be a factor I think we draft our QB to lead this team when we are ready to make a serious run. Who that will be I do not know!

  • It's all a waste of time speculating over it right now. If we hadn't taken Weeden last year, gone in with Colt, people would have been saying "give him this year, then if he still sucks draft Matt Barkley in 2013" - look how that turned out.

  • For all we know an RGIII type QB will emerge this year (Braxton, Gardner, etc) and we'll get to hop on the new NFL craze

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • well there is a back up plan on the horizon.

    yep, jamarcus russell is making a comeback.

    to what i don't know, but......

    BWAHAHA!!

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @shep said:

    Boyd's amazing. He's one of a few serious candidates for Heisman and I won't be shocked if he goes #1 overall in front of Bridgewater.

    Let's wait until say week 8 to let Weeden fall flat on his face before we start discussing the 2014 qb class. I know you can't help yourself. 🙂

    I don't see it as a mutually exclusive situation. I always like talking quarterbacks... but I really hope we won't be drafting one high because the offense fits Weeds like a glove and he throws for 4,000 and 25 or more.

    @hoorta said:

    Let's wait until say week 8 to let Weeden fall flat on his face before we start discussing the 2014 qb class. I know you can't help yourself. 🙂

  • If Weeden's good this year, his age isn't that much of a factor. If he starts for the next six seasons, he'll turn 35 in that sixth year. Younger than Tom Brady who had more wear on his arm coming in.

    Who was the last Browns quarterback to start seven straight seasons? Kosar's "quality years" were way less than that. Sipe was a blip, basically. You'd have to go WAY back.

    If Weeden's good, you don't draft his successor this soon because he's a free agent in four years (like the Mallett situation). I'd say you draft Weeden's possible successor when you think Weeds has maybe two more years left... like in four or five years.

    Quarterbacks are very regularly playing into their late 30s. If Weeden started his last season in the year he turned 37 in October, it wouldn't be anything unusual.

    And guess what? That would be 8 years!!

  • Oh, and if you want a guy who can run the RO, you also want him to have elite arm talent like Kaep or Wilson. Tajh Boyd has better arm talent than either. Insanely quick release, big arm, good accuracy. He's special and he can run. Biggest knock might be that he's 6'1"... but that's 2" taller than Wilson. Also a tough, fiery guy.

    Tough to find something not to like.

  • i like all the previous on Weeden and hope it works. that's obviously best case.

    if Weedz lights it up this season they should try to extend him a couple more years this next offseason.

    right now if they draft the future when Weeden has two years left...then they would draft him in 2014, yes?

  • If Weeden's good and the guy, he could easily start for the next 7 years. He'd turn 36 that 7th year, same age as Brady right now. Hell, he could start 8 years and it wouldn't be anything extraordinary.

    The difference in Weeden coming into the league at 28 is he has to hit his prime pretty damn fast. As in now.

  • Good points Shep and I hope you are right. But I still feel that unless Weeden performs at a pro bowl level we are taking a QB in '14. Hope I am wrong!

  • I agree. If Weeden steps up and playes well, we don't have to think about a QB for a long time in football terms. Six or seven years with a team is a long time, and he can easily give us that.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

  • He's on a one-year audition for sure. The Browns compiled draft assets by adding that 3 and 4 that could really help if we need to move up a little. We likely won't have a lot of needs so trading a 1, 2, and 3 to move up a few spots wouldn't be that big of a deal, really. We're too young as it is.

    In that scenario, where you're moving from 4 to 2 to get Tajh Boyd after Bridgewater goes first (just an example) you still have a 3 and two 4s... that can become another three. Two threes can become a 2 and a 2 can become a really good TE. You sign a veteran corner with some size in free agency where we'll have top 5 cap space.

    You hope the Browns don't draft that high but if Weeden blows, we will. I'd much rather he was awesome, we went 9-7, drafted 20th, and had a lot of picks and a lot of money to fill a few spots.

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