Stadium Remodeling, New Player Intros, And Wiener Dog Races. The New Cleveland Browns Experience
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In the end, the best atmosphere is the BUZZ that surrounds the stadium on game day. The best way to create that is to win games. We don't have that buzz because we haven't won since our return, and for many fans, the Browns post return is all they have ever really known. A 30 year old might have been 11-12 when the Browns moved.
I understand wanting to create more atmosphere in the stadium. You make more money if people are in the stadium, and you want families. Those are future fans and they want something from the gift stands. Teams have to find ways to offer value added. I liked the idea of a hosted tailgate in the stadium. I think you would attract a bunch of people if you offered 2 dogs and 2-3 beers for $10 or so.
It's about the buzz....win and it will return.
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And here is another link....the Browns Stadium ranked 28th in "team atmosphere" among the 32 teams......but get this: the reason was because Browns Stadium is considered one of the most hostile toward opposing teams fans.
I would say that is that is a reason to rank the Browns stadium as low in team atmosphere then Hallefuckinglujah.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/fansurvey/2008/stadium.html#browns
The top 4 "most hostile" fans:
1. Eagles
2. Raiders
3. Jets
4. Browns
We simply disagree. I think it is horrile the way some fans act. This is America. You can root for any team you wish. These people come to YOUR town to spend money.
Quit acting like assholes is my attitude.
You are a friend.....but saying we should promote a hostile enviornment towards other fans goes againt my grain.
It's not their fault our team usually sucks and they are walking away happy and we aren't.
If I owned the Browns I would pay undercover cops to walk around in the opposing teams jersey. If assulted, you understand what happens next....the asshole is thrown in the clink and faces a trial date. Walk them through the Muni lot...around the grounds of the stadium before and after games.
Soon enough, the idiots won't know if it is a fan they can outnumber or a cop they just tossed a beer towards.
FUCK THEM is my attitude.
We simply disagree. I think it is horrile the way some fans act. This is America. You can root for any team you wish. These people come to YOUR town to spend money.
Quit acting like assholes is my attitude.
You are a friend.....but saying we should promote a hostile enviornment towards other fans goes againt my grain.
It's not their fault our team usually sucks and they are walking away happy and we aren't.
If I owned the Browns I would pay undercover cops to walk around in the opposing teams jersey. If assulted, you understand what happens next....the asshole is thrown in the clink and faces a trial date. Walk them through the Muni lot...around the grounds of the stadium before and after games.
Soon enough, the idiots won't know if it is a fan they can outnumber or a cop they just tossed a beer towards.
FUCK THEM is my attitude.
Honestly, I am not in favor of Browns fans getting in the face of opposing teams fans. I also suspect that this SI poll is more reputation than reality. I am sure there are isolated incidents of fan hostilities, but for the most part I think Browns fans are pretty cordial to fans of other teams....except maybe Steeler fans
.But....to, to me, it is still absurd to downgrade a teams stadium experience because the home town fans do not open their arms and sing Kumbaya with the opponents fans.
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I'm not crazy about it either but as a marketer if you don't use facebook or Twitter you're just dumb. It's arguably the best metric for the young adult audience out there. I work at a university and our strong social media prescence gets us butts in the seats aka money to spend.
yes, you are correct and it pains me to say it.
i'm now retired from an industry that doesn't need 'like us' from facebook or 'follow us' on twitter, they are the ones that take all your polls average them out and depending what market they are going after decide how to sell your product.
now i do my own graphics and printing as a hobby to keep me busy and from not going insane. but damned if every wholesale distributor or online store i buy supplies from doesn't somehow have a 'find us on facebook and like us' banner.
really? who's counting? yep some intern at young & rubicam is. back in the day we actually sent people out with pen and paper to ask them ?'s. i guess it's easier this way for that age bracket to gleen their tastes and styles etc. but if they want get info from a guy like me, it ain't coming from twitter or facebook. you gotta catch me at the right time on the street and have something to offer in return for my opinion.
like a cocktail at the nearest blarney stone will do.
yes, you are correct and it pains me to say it.
i'm now retired from an industry that doesn't need 'like us' from facebook or 'follow us' on twitter, they are the ones that take all your polls average them out and depending what market they are going after decide how to sell your product.
now i do my own graphics and printing as a hobby to keep me busy and from not going insane. but damned if every wholesale distributor or online store i buy supplies from doesn't somehow have a 'find us on facebook and like us' banner.
really? who's counting? yep some intern at young & rubicam is. back in the day we actually sent people out with pen and paper to ask them ?'s. i guess it's easier this way for that age bracket to gleen their tastes and styles etc. but if they want get info from a guy like me, it ain't coming from twitter or facebook. you gotta catch me at the right time on the street and have something to offer in return for my opinion.
like a cocktail at the nearest blarney stone will do.
You know I don't use Facebook hardly ever but Twitter actually is a pretty neat tool if you don't follow all the idiots. I'll browse mine every morning to get the beat on world events. I know I'm in the huge minority but I follow just the major news feeds and sports beat writers etc and a few good friends. It's just the same as a news ticker but with a wider breadth. Lord knows I could care the hell less what Kim K. has to say.
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Been to many games where people wear the opposing team colors. Went to a Browns/Eagles game and there were about 25 Eagle Fans a few rows in front of us giving people the finger, taunting, etc. Security sent some 400 pound Deputies down and everything calmed down. Now, if you want to wear the opposing team jersey, fine. Just don't be an asshole and rub it in when there are a bunch of drunken fans pissed off at losing.
Been to many games where people wear the opposing team colors. Went to a Browns/Eagles game and there were about 25 Eagle Fans a few rows in front of us giving people the finger, taunting, etc. Security sent some 400 pound Deputies down and everything calmed down. Now, if you want to wear the opposing team jersey, fine. Just don't be an asshole and rub it in when there are a bunch of drunken fans pissed off at losing.
Exactly. Problems aren't caused by someone wearing the apposing team's jersey. They're caused by a drunk asshole wearing the apposing teams jersey. It all comes back to winning. The Browns start winning consistently and the stadium fills up with more Browns fans than the apposing team (bills last year).
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I don't know that they are in most cases. Obviously Philly gets rapped. I don't want to be in that boat, but think we might be headed there.
In one of the blurbs it was commented that going to a Browns game was more like going to a funeral than a football game. I can see how that drags down the experience. I think there are nearly as many who look forward to the tailgate as do those who look forward to the game. It's like the march of the Zombies from the tailgate lots to the stadium. People might have high hopes but the reality is we really don't expect much of a chance to win. We have been conditioned that way for a long time now.
That I also believe is part of the rap we get for being a hostile enviornment. We are tired of always seeing the visiting fans walking away happy. It's probably why we are in their face win or lose. We are tired of suffering when we lose so we take it out on other fans even though it isn't their fault we suck, and when we win we want to make sure they suffer.
It's going to take not just one season, but several seasons of having a good, solid team who can line up week after week and deliver wins, or when we lose we can at least know that even though we lost, we didn't get beat up like some non BCS school does when they roll in to Columbus or Gainesville.
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I remember many a game leaving and hitting the Holiday inn for a piss stop, along with several hundred others.
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Another experience that I remember is After Lerner passed away. We were playing the Squealers and they had a memorial type thing for him with a Marine Corps Jet flyover. While this was going on the classy Squealer fans of which there were probably close to 10,000 were chanting "Cleveland Sucks". Saw lots of fights that game.
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Another experience that I remember is After Lerner passed away. We were playing the Squealers and they had a memorial type thing for him with a Marine Corps Jet flyover. While this was going on the classy Squealer fans of which there were probably close to 10,000 were chanting "Cleveland Sucks". Saw lots of fights that game.
Another experience that I remember is After Lerner passed away. We were playing the Squealers and they had a memorial type thing for him with a Marine Corps Jet flyover. While this was going on the classy Squealer fans of which there were probably close to 10,000 were chanting "Cleveland Sucks". Saw lots of fights that game.
OK, so if that happens, are Cleveland fans just supposed to turn the other cheek just so that opposing fans can "have a positive experience"? I don't think so.
You reap what you sow. You come into our house and try to piss on the carpet, don't complain when we shit on your head.
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Who would ever want to buy and drink Budweiser beer anyway? At the tailgate you can bring some decent microbrew beer, like your Great Lakes or Hoppin' Frog. Or Guinness. Or if you don't tailgate, go to the Hard Rock for the brunch before the game....all you can eat for about the price of two stadium hot dogs. If you get hungry during the game then you didn't eat enough at the brunch.
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A lot of people, apparently. Anheuser-Busch sells enough Bud\Bud Lite every year to float a battleship in it, but I digress. If my math is correct, about 1.8 BILLION gallons worth.
Guess you and me have higher standards than the general populace. There's no way in hell I'm shelling out $7.25 for a damn lite beer- there's no shortage of people that will- go figure. If you hunt really hard, you can find 16 ounce Labatt's or even Warsteiner. They keep it well hidden though. Don't want the natives getting too drunk at the game, don't ya know?
OTOH- last season they were offering a Bloody Mary Bar (with a fairly generous pour of Absolut vodka) for the same price as a Bud Lite. One guess where my booze $$$ got spent.
hoorta, on 11 Jul 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:
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A lot of people, apparently. Anheuser-Busch sells enough Bud\Bud Lite every year to float a battleship in it, but I digress. If my math is correct, about 1.8 BILLION gallons worth.
Guess you and me have higher standards than the general populace. There's no way in hell I'm shelling out $7.25 for a damn lite beer- there's no shortage of people that will- go figure. If you hunt really hard, you can find 16 ounce Labatt's or even Warsteiner. They keep it well hidden though. Don't want the natives getting too drunk at the game, don't ya know?
OTOH- last season they were offering a Bloody Mary Bar (with a fairly generous pour of Absolut vodka) for the same price as a Bud Lite. One guess where my booze $$$ got spent.
oh, bloody mary of course.
but on a hot summer's day there ain't nothing like pulling an ice cold can of bud out the cooler. goes down fast and won't bloat you up (meaning you can drink more than 3 of them, HA!).
my best friends when it's 90 degrees with humidity of 97% is the cooler full of bud and a bottle of kettle one for those who like clear and a bottle of bushmills for those who enjoy a little brown in their gullets. vodka served chilled of course.
cheers!
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Been to many games where people wear the opposing team colors. Went to a Browns/Eagles game and there were about 25 Eagle Fans a few rows in front of us giving people the finger, taunting, etc. Security sent some 400 pound Deputies down and everything calmed down. Now, if you want to wear the opposing team jersey, fine. Just don't be an asshole and rub it in when there are a bunch of drunken fans pissed off at losing.
Exactly. Problems aren't caused by someone wearing the apposing team's jersey. They're caused by a drunk asshole wearing the apposing teams jersey. It all comes back to winning. The Browns start winning consistently and the stadium fills up with more Browns fans than the apposing team (bills last year).
Exactly. Problems aren't caused by someone wearing the apposing team's jersey. They're caused by a drunk asshole wearing the apposing teams jersey. It all comes back to winning. The Browns start winning consistently and the stadium fills up with more Browns fans than the apposing team (bills last year).
Can't say I agree with that too much. A few years back we saw the panthers play (this was the year before they got Cam Newton so they were terrible mind you). My brother was laughing and having a good time with the people around us, but had at least 3 instances of drunk Browns fans hassling him going for beers or food. One instance the clowns surrounded my brother and starting talking shit for literally no reason and we almost had to throw down for it.
I'm not saying it's the norm, but I'd amend your statement to say ALL drunk assholes cause problems no matter the jersey they have on. The honest to God solution to the problem is to make beer cheap in the stadium. People get hammered so much in the parking lot before the games they act like morons once they get in the gates.
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Exactly. Problems aren't caused by someone wearing the apposing team's jersey. They're caused by a drunk asshole wearing the apposing teams jersey. It all comes back to winning. The Browns start winning consistently and the stadium fills up with more Browns fans than the apposing team (bills last year).
Can't say I agree with that too much. A few years back we saw the panthers play (this was the year before they got Cam Newton so they were terrible mind you). My brother was laughing and having a good time with the people around us, but had at least 3 instances of drunk Browns fans hassling him going for beers or food. One instance the clowns surrounded my brother and starting talking shit for literally no reason and we almost had to throw down for it.
I'm not saying it's the norm, but I'd amend your statement to say ALL drunk assholes cause problems no matter the jersey they have on. The honest to God solution to the problem is to make beer cheap in the stadium. People get hammered so much in the parking lot before the games they act like morons once they get in the gates.
Can't say I agree with that too much. A few years back we saw the panthers play (this was the year before they got Cam Newton so they were terrible mind you). My brother was laughing and having a good time with the people around us, but had at least 3 instances of drunk Browns fans hassling him going for beers or food. One instance the clowns surrounded my brother and starting talking shit for literally no reason and we almost had to throw down for it.
I'm not saying it's the norm, but I'd amend your statement to say ALL drunk assholes cause problems no matter the jersey they have on. The honest to God solution to the problem is to make beer cheap in the stadium. People get hammered so much in the parking lot before the games they act like morons once they get in the gates.
You're absolutely right, I meant it to sound that way, but I didn't check it before I posted. I had problems with more Browns fans than other team fans.
I drink a few beers there, but I don't go there to fight, or be bothered by some drunk. My wife knows when I'm getting irritated and calms me down before I get
too worked up.
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Can't say I agree with that too much. A few years back we saw the panthers play (this was the year before they got Cam Newton so they were terrible mind you). My brother was laughing and having a good time with the people around us, but had at least 3 instances of drunk Browns fans hassling him going for beers or food. One instance the clowns surrounded my brother and starting talking shit for literally no reason and we almost had to throw down for it.
I'm not saying it's the norm, but I'd amend your statement to say ALL drunk assholes cause problems no matter the jersey they have on. The honest to God solution to the problem is to make beer cheap in the stadium. People get hammered so much in the parking lot before the games they act like morons once they get in the gates.
You're absolutely right, I meant it to sound that way, but I didn't check it before I posted. I had problems with more Browns fans than other team fans.
I drink a few beers there, but I don't go there to fight, or be bothered by some drunk. My wife knows when I'm getting irritated and calms me down before I get
too worked up.
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Can't say I agree with that too much. A few years back we saw the panthers play (this was the year before they got Cam Newton so they were terrible mind you). My brother was laughing and having a good time with the people around us, but had at least 3 instances of drunk Browns fans hassling him going for beers or food. One instance the clowns surrounded my brother and starting talking shit for literally no reason and we almost had to throw down for it.
I'm not saying it's the norm, but I'd amend your statement to say ALL drunk assholes cause problems no matter the jersey they have on. The honest to God solution to the problem is to make beer cheap in the stadium. People get hammered so much in the parking lot before the games they act like morons once they get in the gates.
You're absolutely right, I meant it to sound that way, but I didn't check it before I posted. I had problems with more Browns fans than other team fans.
I drink a few beers there, but I don't go there to fight, or be bothered by some drunk. My wife knows when I'm getting irritated and calms me down before I get
too worked up.
You're absolutely right, I meant it to sound that way, but I didn't check it before I posted. I had problems with more Browns fans than other team fans.
I drink a few beers there, but I don't go there to fight, or be bothered by some drunk. My wife knows when I'm getting irritated and calms me down before I get
too worked up.
Oh gotcha, no worries. Yea I just don't get it. I mean sure the Browns make us all miserable and I've downed many a beer to that effect, but the idea of fighting over a football game is so unbelievably dumb. To want to physically hurt someone over something you have zero control (i.e. the score of the game) over is baffling to me. I suppose it's just the small dick complex though.
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Go to an Eagles game wearing a Giants or Redskins jersey. Better be packing.
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Exactly. Problems aren't caused by someone wearing the apposing team's jersey. They're caused by a drunk asshole wearing the apposing teams jersey. It all comes back to winning. The Browns start winning consistently and the stadium fills up with more Browns fans than the apposing team (bills last year).
Can't say I agree with that too much. A few years back we saw the panthers play (this was the year before they got Cam Newton so they were terrible mind you). My brother was laughing and having a good time with the people around us, but had at least 3 instances of drunk Browns fans hassling him going for beers or food. One instance the clowns surrounded my brother and starting talking shit for literally no reason and we almost had to throw down for it.
I'm not saying it's the norm, but I'd amend your statement to say ALL drunk assholes cause problems no matter the jersey they have on. The honest to God solution to the problem is to make beer cheap in the stadium. People get hammered so much in the parking lot before the games they act like morons once they get in the gates.
Can't say I agree with that too much. A few years back we saw the panthers play (this was the year before they got Cam Newton so they were terrible mind you). My brother was laughing and having a good time with the people around us, but had at least 3 instances of drunk Browns fans hassling him going for beers or food. One instance the clowns surrounded my brother and starting talking shit for literally no reason and we almost had to throw down for it.
I'm not saying it's the norm, but I'd amend your statement to say ALL drunk assholes cause problems no matter the jersey they have on. The honest to God solution to the problem is to make beer cheap in the stadium. People get hammered so much in the parking lot before the games they act like morons once they get in the gates.
I remember my first beer
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Iirc, philly has a court in their stadium.
That doesn't happen by accident.
No, it doesn't.
It has to be pretty bad to have to assign a Magistrate to the stadium to hear and set bond for the volumes of arrests at games. They must just hold them in a prison bus and lug all of them off to the city/county jail after the game.
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Personally I always liked the cheerleader idea, but always liked winning a lot more... someday maybe we can have both... free beer is cool with me too.
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I remember old Vets stadiums having a court on the premises. Current web site for Lincoln Financial Field has
nothing in it regarding court/jail although that may be a feature they keep on the down low. Was interested to see
that they don't cut off booze after the third quarter. The booze flows the entire game.
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