A F C N Roster Analyisis, Defense
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Here are the defensive players in the AFCN, alphabetical by team. Give your rankings of each position. Because of variances of the 3-4/4-3 I included all MLBs and all NTs/DTs in one category:
Left DE:
Balt: Chris Canty
Cin: Carlos Dunlap
Cle: Aytahba Rubin
Pit: Ziggy Hood
DTs/NTs:
Balt: Terrence Cody
Cin: Domata Peko
Cin: Geno Atkins
Cle: Phil Taylor
Pit: Steve McClendon
Right DE:
Balt: Haloti Ngata
Cin: Michael Johnson
Cle: Desmond Bryant
Pit: Brett Keisel
LOLB:
Balt: Terrell Suggs
Cin: James Harrison
Cle: Paul Kruger
Pit: Lamar Woodley
MLBs:
Balt: Jameel McClain
Balt: Arthur Brown
Cin: Ray Maualauga
Cle: Craig Robertson
Cle: DQwell Jackson
Pit: Larry Foote
Pit: Lawrence Timmons
ROLB:
Balt: Elvis Dumerville
Cin: Vontaze Burfict
Cle: Jabaal Sheard
Pit.: Jason Worilds
LCB:
Balt.: Ladarius Webb
Cin: Dre Kirkpatrick
Cle: Joe Haden
Pit: Allen Cortez
SS:
Balt: Matt Elam
Cin: Taylor Mays
Cle: TJ Ward
Pit: Troy Polamalu
FS:
Balt: Michael Huff
Cin: Reggie Nelson
Cle: Tashaun Gipson
Pit: Ryan Clark
RCB:
Balt: Corey Graham
Cin: Leon Hall
Cle: Leon McFadden
Pit: Ike Taylor
Give your rank plus any comments.
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Here are the defensive players in the AFCN, alphabetical by team. Give your rankings of each position. Because of variances of the 3-4/4-3 I included all MLBs and all NTs/DTs in one category:
Left DE:
Balt: Chris Canty
Cin: Carlos Dunlap
Cle: Aytahba Rubin
Pit: Ziggy Hood
DTs/NTs:
Balt: Terrence Cody
Cin: Domata Peko
Cin: Geno Atkins
Cle: Phil Taylor
Pit: Steve McClendon
Right DE:
Balt: Haloti Ngata
Cin: Michael Johnson
Cle: Desmond Bryant
Pit: Brett Keisel
LOLB:
Balt: Terrell Suggs
Cin: James Harrison
Cle: Paul Kruger
Pit: Lamar Woodley
MLBs:
Balt: Jameel McClain
Balt: Arthur Brown
Cin: Ray Maualauga
Cle: Craig Robertson
Cle: DQwell Jackson
Pit: Larry Foote
Pit: Lawrence Timmons
ROLB:
Balt: Elvis Dumerville
Cin: Vontaze Burfict
Cle: Jabaal Sheard
Pit.: Jason Worilds
LCB:
Balt.: Ladarius Webb
Cin: Dre Kirkpatrick
Cle: Joe Haden
Pit: Allen Cortez
SS:
Balt: Matt Elam
Cin: Taylor Mays
Cle: TJ Ward
Pit: Troy Polamalu
FS:
Balt: Michael Huff
Cin: Reggie Nelson
Cle: Tashaun Gipson
Pit: Ryan Clark
RCB:
Balt: Corey Graham
Cin: Leon Hall
Cle: Leon McFadden
Pit: Ike Taylor
Give your rank plus any comments.
Here are the defensive players in the AFCN, alphabetical by team. Give your rankings of each position. Because of variances of the 3-4/4-3 I included all MLBs and all NTs/DTs in one category:
Left DE:
Balt: Chris Canty
Cin: Carlos Dunlap
Cle: Aytahba Rubin
Pit: Ziggy Hood
1. Rubin 2. Hood 3. Canty 4. Dunlop I don't see Rubin taking a back seat to any of these guys.
DTs/NTs:
Balt: Terrence Cody
Cin: Domata Peko
Cin: Geno Atkins
Cle: Phil Taylor
Pit: Steve McClendon
1. Atkins 2. Taylor 3. Peko 4. Cody 5. McClendon
Right DE:
Balt: Haloti Ngata
Cin: Michael Johnson
Cle: Desmond Bryant
Pit: Brett Keisel
1. Ngata 2. Johnson 3. Keisel 4. Bryant. I have to see more from Bryant to raise him up.
LOLB:
Balt: Terrell Suggs
Cin: James Harrison
Cle: Paul Kruger
Pit: Lamar Woodley
1. Suggs 2. Kruger 3. Woodley 4. Harrison
MLBs:
Balt: Jameel McClain
Balt: Arthur Brown
Cin: Ray Maualauga
Cle: Craig Robertson
Cle: DQwell Jackson
Pit: Larry Foote
Pit: Lawrence Timmons
1. Jackson 2. Foote 3. Timmons 4. Maualaga 5. McClain 6.. Robertson 7. Brown Rookies always take the end spot until they are proven
ROLB:
Balt: Elvis Dumerville
Cin: Vontaze Burfict
Cle: Jabaal Sheard
Pit.: Jason Worilds
I think it is the order as stated above: 1. Dumerville, 2. Burfict 3. Shears 4. Worilds Sheard has to show he can LB.
LCB:
Balt.: Ladarius Webb
Cin: Dre Kirkpatrick
Cle: Joe Haden
Pit: Allen Cortez
1. Haden 2. Webb 3. Cortez 4. Kirkpatrick. Actually, any order behind Joe could work.
SS:
Balt: Matt Elam
Cin: Taylor Mays
Cle: TJ Ward
Pit: Troy Polamalu
1. Ward 2. Polamalu 3. Mays 4. Elam. Polamalu's hair may still be overrated. Again, rookies take last place.
FS:
Balt: Michael Huff
Cin: Reggie Nelson
Cle: Tashaun Gipson
Pit: Ryan Clark
1. Clark 2. Huff 3. Nelson 4. Gipson Home boy is going to have to prove a few things first.
RCB:
Balt: Corey Graham (Pro Bowl as special teamer with Chicago)
Cin: Leon Hall
Cle: Leon McFadden
Pit: Ike Taylor
1. Graham 2. Taylor 3. Hall 4. McFadden. Again, rookies take the backside.
Give your rank plus any comments.
The only absolutes for me in these rankings is in Atkins/Ngata/Dumerville/Haden Any number of these other rankings could possibly be shifted and I would not squawk.
Bold means player was in the Pro Bowl last year
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Here are the defensive players in the AFCN, alphabetical by team. Give your rankings of each position. Because of variances of the 3-4/4-3 I included all MLBs and all NTs/DTs in one category:
Left DE:
Balt: Chris Canty
Cin: Carlos Dunlap
Cle: Aytahba Rubin
Pit: Ziggy Hood
DTs/NTs:
Balt: Terrence Cody
Cin: Domata Peko
Cin: Geno Atkins
Cle: Phil Taylor
Pit: Steve McClendon
Right DE:
Balt: Haloti Ngata
Cin: Michael Johnson
Cle: Desmond Bryant
Pit: Brett Keisel
LOLB:
Balt: Terrell Suggs
Cin: James Harrison
Cle: Paul Kruger
Pit: Lamar Woodley
MLBs:
Balt: Jameel McClain
Balt: Arthur Brown
Cin: Ray Maualauga
Cle: Craig Robertson
Cle: DQwell Jackson
Pit: Larry Foote
Pit: Lawrence Timmons
ROLB:
Balt: Elvis Dumerville
Cin: Vontaze Burfict
Cle: Jabaal Sheard
Pit.: Jason Worilds
LCB:
Balt.: Ladarius Webb
Cin: Dre Kirkpatrick
Cle: Joe Haden
Pit: Allen Cortez
SS:
Balt: Matt Elam
Cin: Taylor Mays
Cle: TJ Ward
Pit: Troy Polamalu
FS:
Balt: Michael Huff
Cin: Reggie Nelson
Cle: Tashaun Gipson
Pit: Ryan Clark
RCB:
Balt: Corey Graham
Cin: Leon Hall
Cle: Leon McFadden
Pit: Ike Taylor
Give your rank plus any comments.
Here are the defensive players in the AFCN, alphabetical by team. Give your rankings of each position. Because of variances of the 3-4/4-3 I included all MLBs and all NTs/DTs in one category:
I have researched each of these player and obtained their 2012 "Season Average" which was assigned to them by PFR, a number which is supposed to represent each players productivity in a particular season. If you just went by last year's "productivity number" the following would be the ranking. But note, an injured player won't rank so high because he will not have played and been productive while out: (NR means no rating...usually signifying a new rookie...or someone who was out the whole year)
Left DE:
Balt: Chris Canty
Cin: Carlos Dunlap
Cle: Aytahba Rubin
Pit: Ziggy Hood
Hood: 9, Rubin 6, Dunlap 5, Canty 4
DTs/NTs:
Balt: Terrence Cody
Cin: Domata Peko
Cin: Geno Atkins
Cle: Phil Taylor
Pit: Steve McClendon
Atkins 18, Peko 8, Taylor 4, Cody 3, McClendon NR
Right DE:
Balt: Haloti Ngata
Cin: Michael Johnson
Cle: Desmond Bryant
Pit: Brett Keisel
Ngata 13, Johnson 9, Keisel 9, Bryant 4
LOLB:
Balt: Terrell Suggs
Cin: James Harrison
Cle: Paul Kruger
Pit: Lamar Woodley
Woodley 8, Harrison 8, Suggs 4, Kruger 4
MLBs:
Balt: Jameel McClain
Balt: Arthur Brown
Cin: Ray Maualauga
Cle: Craig Robertson
Cle: DQwell Jackson
Pit: Larry Foote
Pit: Lawrence Timmons
Timmons 11, Foote 10 Jackson 9, Maualaga 8, McClain 7, Robertson 4, Brown NR
ROLB:
Balt: Elvis Dumerville
Cin: Vontaze Burfict
Cle: Jabaal Sheard
Pit.: Jason Worilds
Dumerville 12 Sheard 8, Burfict 8, Worilds 3
LCB:
Balt.: Ladarius Webb
Cin: Dre Kirkpatrick
Cle: Joe Haden
Pit: Allen Cortez
Haden 5, Webb 3,, Kirkpatrick 0, Cortez NR
SS:
Balt: Matt Elam
Cin: Taylor Mays
Cle: TJ Ward
Pit: Troy Polamalu
Ward 6, Polamalu 4, Mays 2, Elam NR
FS:
Balt: Michael Huff
Cin: Reggie Nelson
Cle: Tashaun Gipson
Pit: Ryan Clark
Clark 8, Nelson 7, Huff 6, Gipson 2
RCB:
Balt: Corey Graham
Cin: Leon Hall
Cle: Leon McFadden
Pit: Ike Taylor
Hall 7, Taylor 6, Graham 4, McFadden NR
Give your rank plus any comments.
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Foote and jackson ahead of timmons? Lol. And dunlap is the best left defensive end in the north.
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Foote and jackson ahead of timmons? Lol. And dunlap is the best left defensive end in the north.
Foote and jackson ahead of timmons? Lol. The season production number shows that Timmons would be first. But it is close enough that I put Jackson ahead because he is...or was the only MLB in a 4-3 scheme. As for Timmons vs. Foote, tweedledum, tweedledee , you can have that.
And dunlap is the best left defensive end in the north.
The production number says otherwise....though, remember, this production number will be lessened for anyone who was out some games with injury. Maybe that was the case with Dunlap. It certainly was with others.
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Here is how each team fared with who got the top spot on the PFR season production average list: Note, I include two DTs and two MLBs:
Pitt.: 5 spots: Hood, Woodley, Timmons, Foote, Clark
Cincy: 3 spots Atkins, Harrison, Peko
Balt: 2 spots: Ngata, Dumerville
Based on my observation here, it seems that Baltimore should have the top defensive line with Ngata and Dumerville at the top of their spots. Pittsburgh should have the best linebakers with Timmons, Foote and Woodley, and the Browns should have the top defensive backfield with Haden and Ward.
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Here is how each team fared with who got the top spot on the PFR season production average list: Note, I include two DTs and two MLBs:
Pitt.: 5 spots: Hood, Woodley, Timmons, Foote, Clark
Cincy: 3 spots Atkins, Harrison, Peko
Balt: 2 spots: Ngata, Dumerville
Based on my observation here, it seems that Baltimore should have the top defensive line with Ngata and Dumerville at the top of their spots. Pittsburgh should have the best linebakers with Timmons, Foote and Woodley, and the Browns should have the top defensive backfield with Haden and Ward.
Here is how each team fared with who got the top spot on the PFR season production average list: Note, I include two DTs and two MLBs:
Pitt.: 5 spots: Hood, Woodley, Timmons, Foote, Clark
Cincy: 3 spots Atkins, Harrison, Peko
Balt: 2 spots: Ngata, Dumerville
Based on my observation here, it seems that Baltimore should have the top defensive line with Ngata and Dumerville at the top of their spots. Pittsburgh should have the best linebakers with Timmons, Foote and Woodley, and the Browns should have the top defensive backfield with Haden and Ward.
I'm almost certain that Dumerville will be standing up at outside linebacker opposite Suggs.
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Here is how each team fared with who got the top spot on the PFR season production average list: Note, I include two DTs and two MLBs:
Pitt.: 5 spots: Hood, Woodley, Timmons, Foote, Clark
Cincy: 3 spots Atkins, Harrison, Peko
Balt: 2 spots: Ngata, Dumerville
Based on my observation here, it seems that Baltimore should have the top defensive line with Ngata and Dumerville at the top of their spots. Pittsburgh should have the best linebakers with Timmons, Foote and Woodley, and the Browns should have the top defensive backfield with Haden and Ward.
I'm almost certain that Dumerville will be standing up at outside linebacker opposite Suggs.
I'm almost certain that Dumerville will be standing up at outside linebacker opposite Suggs.
Again, I went by the Ourlads Depth Charts. A lot of that could be said for these 3-4 systems. A guy could be a DL,or a LB. A DE an an LB will often line up in the same spot. The only question is whether or not he has his hand on the ground or not.
Whatever.
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The gross scores from the PFR season production average gives the current depth chart number as these, which, in theory should reflect the strength of each defense based on 2012 production:
Bengals: 73 points
Steelers: 68 points
Browns: 59 points
Ravens: 56 points
It should be pointed out that players lost from last year are not included. E.g. the Ravens 2013 defense does not get the benefit of the scores of the likes of Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, etc. etc.
And also, rookies that are projected to start get no points, so e.g. the Browns get -0- for Leon McFadden, the Ravens -0- for Arthur Brown. etc.
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