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The biggest problem with socialism is that there is still a dictator you will have Price controls with socialism.I don't think that's part of it.
Socialism CAN be linked up with repressive and brutal regimes but I don't think it must' date=' T.
Not even Fascism requires anything evil.
But most Fascist regimes lean that way.
You can have a dictator in a Democracy or a Republic too.
And a "dictator" can just as easily be benevolent.
We sapend too much time defending or attacking these terms without a basic understanding.
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Totally agree. It's an "on paper" concept only. Like a totally free market. The actionable version is always somewhere in between.I will agree. At this present time I dont make a lot of money. So sure, spreading the wealth sound good. But its the lazy asses in this country that unjustifiably live off the welfare system that will be waiting for their compensation check that ruin this idea!
Socialism would work if we all had jobs that were equal! If we all whent to collee to learn a trade and each pulled our own weight.
But the facts are that some of us pay are own way through 8 years of college to make good money... while others sit on their ass and work 3 days a week to support their drug habbits. Or some people sit around making babys without a job because they are too fucking ignorant to take advantage of the many oportunities that this country offers us.
That being said, I dont want my hard earned money being spread to any of those waste of space loosers!
If your not completly lazy their are oportunities and that is what our country was founded on. Not giving the ignorant tax breaks because we need their votes!
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[If your not completly lazy their are oportunities and that is what our country was founded on. Not giving the ignorant tax breaks because we need their votes!
Actually we were "founded" because the rich guys here got tired of paying the king his cut.
Then they butchered anyone who thought differently.
For the lovers of the comic book history ask how long before the US of A put down the Whiskey Rebellion.
WSS
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And all these years i thought the problem was taxation without representation!
you get my point. WE WERE NOT founded on socialism.
Everyone should be taxed the same % no matter how much they make.
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HAHAHAHA
SOunds great!
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And all these years i thought the problem was taxation without representation!LOL
you get my point. WE WERE NOT founded on socialism.
Exactly true.
Actually quite the opposite.
Everyone should be taxed the same % no matter how much they make.
Sounds more fair.
When 60% contribute for services and 40% do not (soon to be 52 to 48%) it seems unbalanced to me.
But when you can vote yourself more of the other guys money.......
WSS
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In all actuality, ill be willing to bet any amount of money that says you guys cant show me a law that says we evne have to pay income tax.
Hell, the constitution says we can only be taxed "Directly" on property or goods.
The income tax system is unconstitutional... therefor illeagal!
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And all these years i thought the problem was taxation without representation!LOL
you get my point. WE WERE NOT founded on socialism.
Exactly true.
Actually quite the opposite.
Everyone should be taxed the same % no matter how much they make.
Sounds more fair.
When 60% contribute for services and 40% do not (soon to be 52 to 48%) it seems unbalanced to me.
But when you can vote yourself more of the other guys money.......
WSS
Can you explain a little more!
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And all these years i thought the problem was taxation without representation!LOL
you get my point. WE WERE NOT founded on socialism.
Exactly true.
Actually quite the opposite.
Everyone should be taxed the same % no matter how much they make.
Sounds more fair.
When 60% contribute for services and 40% do not (soon to be 52 to 48%) it seems unbalanced to me.
But when you can vote yourself more of the other guys money.......
WSS
Can you explain a little more!
What in particular Roy?
WSS
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Wow! I have been lurking here for a long time. This might be the first time I have seen a discussion about anything that hasn't devolved into calling someone Hitler, or a War Criminal. Nice job guys!
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So you're a tranquil sex fiend?\ said:
Me, I'm kind of Gandhi with a little David Duchovny mixed in. -
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You're all Hitlers. Every last one of you.I spoke to soon. Thanks for reassuring me, I was getting concerned that the board was being overrun by sensible posters.
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I like it!
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In all actuality, ill be willing to bet any amount of money that says you guys cant show me a law that says we evne have to pay income tax.Hell, the constitution says we can only be taxed "Directly" on property or goods.
The income tax system is unconstitutional... therefor illeagal!
The constitution is basically meaningless though every party accuses the other one of abusing it.
For any lovers of the constitution I ask you to list the unrestricted freedoms it guarantees us.
WSS
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You're all Hitlers. Every last one of you.
Alo Where's the "How DARE you!!!!!"
WSS
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Shep was kidding, just like I was when I responded to his post.
If he actually compared Bush or McCain to Hitler, I'd call him out on it.
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