This pretty much sums up the fraud of mmgw
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Oh I don't particularly think it's a hoax.
I believe that there is a consensus, of sorts, among the scientific community that believes the consequences are going to be dire. Many of which I believe it's too late now.
I also believe that politics and the news cycle far outweigh any scientific fact. Sorry bud. But if you are honestly in fear for your own life or the life of your children then by all means do something about it. The conversation I've often had here revolves around the simple fact that even those of you who are deeply concerned aren't really willing to make much sacrifice in your own lives.
Just calling the non believers idiots doesn't really change a thing, does it?
A joke I tell occasionally refers to conversations I have with my liberal friends who demand of me what about our children!?!? I told them I don't have children and I don't like yours.
but joking aside I think those on the left who rail about global warming seem to be unwilling to do much about it besides rail.
so that's where I'm coming from in case you care.
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Oh I don't particularly think it's a hoax.
I believe that there is a consensus, of sorts, among the scientific community that believes the consequences are going to be dire. Many of which I believe it's too late now.
I also believe that politics and the news cycle far outweigh any scientific fact. Sorry bud. But if you are honestly in fear for your own life or the life of your children then by all means do something about it. The conversation I've often had here revolves around the simple fact that even those of you who are deeply concerned aren't really willing to make much sacrifice in your own lives.
Just calling the non believers idiots doesn't really change a thing, does it?
A joke I tell occasionally refers to conversations I have with my liberal friends who demand of me what about our children!?!? I told them I don't have children and I don't like yours.
but joking aside I think those on the left who rail about global warming seem to be unwilling to do much about it besides rail.
so that's where I'm coming from in case you care.
WSS
As I am a reading ur response, a sensible argument and a decent stance I find this out there
"See, in my humble opinion, folks, if you believe in God, then intellectually you cannot believe in manmade global warming β¦ You must be either agnostic or atheistic to believe that man controls something that he canβt create"-Limbaugh
Worse thing in the media is the over playing of fear and "fearmongering" in general, its a big difference to back 40 years ago when news companies only reported the news on TV(for an hour or 2) or in print. Now a days they have to sell 24 hours around the clock news, many newscasters simply try to out crazy the guy on the other channel to get a few more viewers, and any bloke with a pc and internet can create a blog and write anything they want without a single care about the facts.
Global Warming is no exception to this(in many cases its one of the worse, it isn't going to happen tomorrow but will be a slow process, can we correct it before it gets to bad maybe/maybe not but at the very least we can do little things to help, such as disposing of trash correctly and recycling.
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Well I don't concern myself with what others may see as God's will. I'm not a believer, I just don't have the animosity toward Christians that many of the people here Express. So as far as doing little things to make the impact of our waste management a bit here? Sure why not. I do. I suppose just about everybody does. But what we have been talking about, as you mention, is the complete overplay of the situation and the dire warnings at the end will come in a very few years unless extreme measures are taken. Frankly we aren't going to take any extreme measures. Not the left, not the right not the centerists.
Luckily by the time that the five to seven year deadline for the end of the world arrives and doesn't come to pass much of this will be forgotten. And someone somewhere on a message board very similar to this one will be dredging up the predictions of 20 13.
and while we are pointing fingers you folks on the left should have thought twice about putting up a blow hard like Al Gore (and his ilk) as the standard bearer for the movement.
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Don't look at me about Gore, I voted for Bush in 2000, I think he is an idiot who is full of himself.
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Also didn't mean for the Limbaugh quote to emphasize religion, but more to point out the overall fear mongering that media seems to be doing these days.
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I'm not talking about Al Gore the presidential candidate I'm talking about Al Gore the movie producer and fear mongerer in chief.
I think it's always a bad idea to predict things within a time frame that they can turn out to be bullshit. Ask dick Morris.
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But he's super cereal....
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The truth is, I see all the bs about mmgw in terms of the lib demand for
taxes on it. Carbon tax. At some point, honest, intelligent people have to ask themselves
this question:
"If mmgw is so serious and genuine, then why is it okay to make it worse, as long
as you pay taxes on it?"
Interesting, I think. It always come down to money. More money. Gun control? Registration, licenses, permits, fees fees fees.
But, mmgw is the open door to taxing everybody for anything. Cows farting, running lawnmowers, driving a car, tractor, combine, heating your home, ....
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it's a "more money" movement. More money to buy more dependency votes for the democratic party.
Let me know when all these liberal mmgw sheep go and live in their houses without heat or air conditioning, and stop
running any motor, paint their roofs white, stop using electricity and stop eating processed foods.
Until then, it's a farce, even more a farce than woody's moronic posts on this board.. So there ya go.
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You can't stop industry from polluting cold turkey. That would fuck up The economy. By the taxing it you are creating that incentive to produce less without killing the company. Money rules everything and it is how we have to drive change. Got it?
I guess the vast majority of people much smarter than you that specialize in the climate agree with this farce then...
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produce less cows farting, less lawn mowing? Using taxes as a manipulative weapon
is the excuse of socialists who need more money to spread around to those who will vote for them in return.
You are too stupid to comment around here, woodypeckerhead. Just a legit post from you would be appreciated.
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produce less cows farting, less lawn mowing? Using taxes as a manipulative weapon
is the excuse of socialists who need more money to spread around to those who will vote for them in return.
You are too stupid to comment around here, woodypeckerhead. Just a legit post from you would be appreciated.
produce less cows farting, less lawn mowing? Using taxes as a manipulative weapon
is the excuse of socialists who need more money to spread around to those who will vote for them in return.
You are too stupid to comment around here, woodypeckerhead. Just a legit post from you would be appreciated.
I did give you a legit post. I explained to you how the taxation is supposed to work. You twisted that into some evil liberal socialist plot though because you're an idiotic, simple, gullible man.
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You're wrong, nirvana woodpecker.
Obamao himself said that energy prices will necessarily skyrocket, birdbrain.
They have said they wanted to financially put coal out of business.
Why would you want our electric companies to produce less?
All you dished out was some ignorant rationalizaiton for what's going on about global warming.
Why would you want to have farmers produce less? That's what a carbon tax would do, stupid woodypeckerhead.
Why would you want food prices to also skyrocket, ignorant woodypeckerhead?
Nothin legit in your post.
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You are delusional crazy person.
I mean, why follow the rational explanation when the crazy "Obamao and the liberals are out to get us" one is right there...
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The way that woody and cal fight if this was a Hollywood movie they would be making out near the end.
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Hardly. And woodypeckerhead, I only give you crap, out of self defense, and annoyance.
I don't have this problem with anybody else on the board, cept maybe heck once in a while when
he mouths off. So, given that I am able to differentiate between good posters on the board, which everybody
else on the board is besides you and mz the pussy in the past...... that means you are the weakest, most immature,
most ignorant, most worthless, most non-existent contribution/content wise arsehole on the board.
IOW's, woodypeckerhead, you initiate putdowns of other people, and you get put down in return. It isn't that tough to understand, except
you don't/won't/can't. I personally think that there's something wrong with you. You're as dim as Treyvon Martin was....
you don't get that if you force someone to defend themselves, it's your own damn fault that they have to defend themselves.
Yes, that's over your woodypeckerhead head. You are the butt of the board.
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Nice...you decide you'd reply with name calling because you have no time to "tear into anything" .,,, afraid what youll find.? You're a typical libtard.
Do what most adults do boy. If some libtard posts something that I can't argue, or have not done enough research to dispute, No name calling.. I ignore it and move on.
Grow up woody.
Don't flatter yourself, boy (intellectually, you're a boy). You and Cal don't post these groundbreaking full proof arguments and sources that can't be touched. Its the same shit... every time... from the same sources.
But think what you want. Idc. You're nothing.
Don't flatter yourself, boy (intellectually, you're a boy). You and Cal don't post these groundbreaking full proof arguments and sources that can't be touched. Its the same shit... every time... from the same sources.
But think what you want. Idc. You're nothing.
Blah, blah, blah....You don't care, and I'm nothing, yet you to continue to respond with the same mindless babble every time your panties get rolled up in a knot.
You're a piece of work. Grow up already woody.
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Oh I don't particularly think it's a hoax.
I believe that there is a consensus, of sorts, among the scientific community that believes the consequences are going to be dire. Many of which I believe it's too late now.
I also believe that politics and the news cycle far outweigh any scientific fact. Sorry bud. But if you are honestly in fear for your own life or the life of your children then by all means do something about it. The conversation I've often had here revolves around the simple fact that even those of you who are deeply concerned aren't really willing to make much sacrifice in your own lives.
Just calling the non believers idiots doesn't really change a thing, does it?
A joke I tell occasionally refers to conversations I have with my liberal friends who demand of me what about our children!?!? I told them I don't have children and I don't like yours.
but joking aside I think those on the left who rail about global warming seem to be unwilling to do much about it besides rail.
so that's where I'm coming from in case you care.
WSS
Oh I don't particularly think it's a hoax.
I believe that there is a consensus, of sorts, among the scientific community that believes the consequences are going to be dire. Many of which I believe it's too late now.
I also believe that politics and the news cycle far outweigh any scientific fact. Sorry bud. But if you are honestly in fear for your own life or the life of your children then by all means do something about it. The conversation I've often had here revolves around the simple fact that even those of you who are deeply concerned aren't really willing to make much sacrifice in your own lives.
Just calling the non believers idiots doesn't really change a thing, does it?
A joke I tell occasionally refers to conversations I have with my liberal friends who demand of me what about our children!?!? I told them I don't have children and I don't like yours.
but joking aside I think those on the left who rail about global warming seem to be unwilling to do much about it besides rail.
so that's where I'm coming from in case you care.
WSS
It needs to be made clear by all..what do you think is clearly not a hoax... "man made" global warming, or global warming period?
No reasonable person believes global warming, or global cooling is a hoax..as stated before, it's what the earth does..with or without man.
"'Republicans don't discard global warming. They also don't discard global cooling, which has been trending since 1998. They DO discard fear mongering, sky is fallng, we need to redistribute the world's wealth liberals! They also dismiss scientists and universities substantially funded by the goverment to derive at results that they want to hear by cherry picking data, falsifing studies, writing software that gives them the outcome they want no matter what data is fed into the "model", adjust data to fit their model's predictions, change timelines to show causation when there is none, etc.
Not ONE single model has ever even gotten the cyclone activity correct, EVER! Not even close! The models are based on a fallacy. Warmers have no credibility, NONE.
Liberals are taking advantage of the natural process of global warming and blaming mankind for it. "Man made" global warming is only promoted by liberals and socialists who are seeking greater government control over the production and use of energy..
To you gullible government believing sheeple mf'ers that fall for this crap, Rush says it best...
"The way you've been approached on this is to first make you feel guilty. And if not you personally, at least other Americans who've been living their lives too "irresponsibly" without concern for the environment. They've been polluting, they've been wasting electricity, they've been driving big cars, they've been cooling or warming their homes to extremes, whatever. You have been made to feel appropriately guilty or angry, but then you have been offered absolution.
You've been offered a way out of the guilt for having contributed to the destruction of the planet, and that is if you will go out and buy a hybrid, or if you will oppose oil companies, or if you will oppose fracking. If you will oppose the Keystone pipeline, if you will oppose the growth of any fossil fuel industry, then you're a good person. If you will agree that people need to pay higher taxes in order to save the planet, you're a good person. They've offered you absolution."
It's all a hoax.
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Oh I don't particularly think it's a hoax.
I believe that there is a consensus, of sorts, among the scientific community that believes the consequences are going to be dire. Many of which I believe it's too late now.
I also believe that politics and the news cycle far outweigh any scientific fact. Sorry bud. But if you are honestly in fear for your own life or the life of your children then by all means do something about it. The conversation I've often had here revolves around the simple fact that even those of you who are deeply concerned aren't really willing to make much sacrifice in your own lives.
Just calling the non believers idiots doesn't really change a thing, does it?
A joke I tell occasionally refers to conversations I have with my liberal friends who demand of me what about our children!?!? I told them I don't have children and I don't like yours.
but joking aside I think those on the left who rail about global warming seem to be unwilling to do much about it besides rail.
so that's where I'm coming from in case you care.
WSS
It needs to be made clear by all..what do you think is clearly not a hoax... "man made" global warming, or global warming period?
No reasonable person believes global warming, or global cooling is a hoax..as stated before, it's what the earth does..with or without man.
"'Republicans don't discard global warming. They also don't discard global cooling, which has been trending since 1998. They DO discard fear mongering, sky is fallng, we need to redistribute the world's wealth liberals! They also dismiss scientists and universities substantially funded by the goverment to derive at results that they want to hear by cherry picking data, falsifing studies, writing software that gives them the outcome they want no matter what data is fed into the "model", adjust data to fit their model's predictions, change timelines to show causation when there is none, etc.
Not ONE single model has ever even gotten the cyclone activity correct, EVER! Not even close! The models are based on a fallacy. Warmers have no credibility, NONE.
Liberals are taking advantage of the natural process of global warming and blaming mankind for it. "Man made" global warming is only promoted by liberals and socialists who are seeking greater government control over the production and use of energy..
To you gullible government believing sheeple mf'ers that fall for this crap, Rush says it best...
"The way you've been approached on this is to first make you feel guilty. And if not you personally, at least other Americans who've been living their lives too "irresponsibly" without concern for the environment. They've been polluting, they've been wasting electricity, they've been driving big cars, they've been cooling or warming their homes to extremes, whatever. You have been made to feel appropriately guilty or angry, but then you have been offered absolution.
You've been offered a way out of the guilt for having contributed to the destruction of the planet, and that is if you will go out and buy a hybrid, or if you will oppose oil companies, or if you will oppose fracking. If you will oppose the Keystone pipeline, if you will oppose the growth of any fossil fuel industry, then you're a good person. If you will agree that people need to pay higher taxes in order to save the planet, you're a good person. They've offered you absolution."
It's all a hoax.
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Never really started.
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T I think you are asking me if I believe global warming itself, or climate change, is a hoax or that man made global warming and climate change is a hoax. I don't think either one is particularly a hoax. I think there's probably enough scientific data to make it seem like fluorocarbon and such in the atmosphere certainly could be a factor. My entire rant has always been that we aren't sure how much of a factor. Also that other factors are involved but no matter which ones create more of the problem or less there's a little we can do to change it. I do agree with the theory that hi taxation can certainly make a change in the behavior of individuals and corporations. However I don't think it will be enough, I do think that people are making progressas it is I do believe these taxes will take a significant toll on our economyand I do believe that it is a money making scheme whether or not it has a seed in practicality.
much like the cigarette tax. Yes it's contributed to less people smoking today even though it hasn't eliminated it.
but it is damned profitable and I'd be surprised if those who eat from the cigarette tax trough would like to see the practice banned altogether. Follow the money.
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