Presidential Homes
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Kind of a waste of tax payer money since the guy hasn't been President since January 1981. I doubt he has much valid intelligence to give any enemy.
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Kind of a waste of tax payer money since the guy hasn't been President since January 1981. I doubt he has much valid intelligence to give any enemy.
Kind of a waste of tax payer money since the guy hasn't been President since January 1981. I doubt he has much valid intelligence to give any enemy.
You don't think very clearly. Terrorists and other idiots do the things they do for the symbology of their acts far more so than for the intelligence they can garner.
E.g.: Carter was the architect of the Israeli/Egyptian Camp David Peace Accords.
Do you not think that there may not be radicals out there who are opposed to the Egypt/Israel peace (and they are out there), that might like to kill or kidnap the architect of that peace?
Especially with all the crap that is going on over there now?
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I don't know about all about that with President Reagan....but indeed, the Carters will be buried in Plains, across from their home in a polt that has already been erected.
As long as one of them is alive, the Secret Service is in charge of the home and plot...trust me, they are there.....maybe 40 on staff, 20 at all times. Once both have passed, the Park Service takes over the home and burial plot security....this was all explained before the Church Service.
The home isn't open now. It will be when both the Carter's pass.
I am a bigger fan of Jimmy Carter now then I was when he ran or was President.
As soon as you drive in to town from the west, you see a big gate and two black limo type Humvees with a guard shack.....there is little doubt that is the Carter address,
When you go to his church, the Marines send out a couple of dogs to sniff your vehicle for bombs....big mean dogs with 4 big mean Marines with them, not to mention men in black standing off in the woods and who knows where, and GHSP cars in numbers or 4-5 in the parking lot...two troopers per car, plus a few local cops out in the street...then you stand in line to get checked. Pretty impressive to be honest.
I don't know about all about that with President Reagan....but indeed, the Carters will be buried in Plains, across from their home in a polt that has already been erected.
As long as one of them is alive, the Secret Service is in charge of the home and plot...trust me, they are there.....maybe 40 on staff, 20 at all times. Once both have passed, the Park Service takes over the home and burial plot security....this was all explained before the Church Service.
The home isn't open now. It will be when both the Carter's pass.
I am a bigger fan of Jimmy Carter now then I was when he ran or was President.
As soon as you drive in to town from the west, you see a big gate and two black limo type Humvees with a guard shack.....there is little doubt that is the Carter address,
When you go to his church, the Marines send out a couple of dogs to sniff your vehicle for bombs....big mean dogs with 4 big mean Marines with them, not to mention men in black standing off in the woods and who knows where, and GHSP cars in numbers or 4-5 in the parking lot...two troopers per car, plus a few local cops out in the street...then you stand in line to get checked. Pretty impressive to be honest.
Right. His current home, though perhaps technically now part of the park, is not open to the public, but the school, church, his boyhood home, and even Billy Carter's gas station are part of the park. See the link:
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Here is the link to the Reagan Ranch. Like I said, it is only open to you if you have the "right credentials".
http://www.yaf.org/VisitingTheReaganRanch.aspx
Look, I liked Reagan, though I didn't care for all his policies. (and that is true for just about every President). And I consider myself somewhat of a Presidential Historian...and I like to visit Presidential Homes. But I don't think I should have to be a sychophant of his philosophy to have the opportunity to see a place of historical significance. (but, that, apparently is what they require).
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Kind of a waste of tax payer money since the guy hasn't been President since January 1981. I doubt he has much valid intelligence to give any enemy.
You don't think very clearly. Terrorists and other idiots do the things they do for the symbology of their acts far more so than for the intelligence they can garner.
E.g.: Carter was the architect of the Israeli/Egyptian Camp David Peace Accords.
Do you not think that there may not be radicals out there who are opposed to the Egypt/Israel peace (and they are out there), that might like to kill or kidnap the architect of that peace?
Especially with all the crap that is going on over there now?
You don't think very clearly. Terrorists and other idiots do the things they do for the symbology of their acts far more so than for the intelligence they can garner.
E.g.: Carter was the architect of the Israeli/Egyptian Camp David Peace Accords.
Do you not think that there may not be radicals out there who are opposed to the Egypt/Israel peace (and they are out there), that might like to kill or kidnap the architect of that peace?
Especially with all the crap that is going on over there now?
I think plenty clearly magistrate. And Carter is probably the second worst president in history, after Obama that is. And what he orchestrated is back in the Stone age as far as what is happening now a days.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Here are the Presidents whose homes I have not visited, and their status re open to public:
Madison: Montpelier Va. Open to public tours
Monroe: AshLawn Va. Open to public tours
Polk: Ancestral Home, Columbia TN, open to public
Taylor: Springfield, Louisville KY, closed due to weather damage, but will open to public again
Fillmore: Fillmore House, E. Aurora NY, open to public
Pierce: Childhood homestead is a New Hampshire state park, open to public. Adult Home in Concord NH open to public
Buchanan: Wheatland, Lancaster PA, open to public
Hayes: Spiegel Grove, Fremont Oh. An Ohio State Park open to public
Cleveland: Westland Mansion, Princeton NJ.....is a private residence, not open to public
Benjamin Harrison: Home in Indianapolis, is a museum open to public
Teddy Roosevelt: (been to his ranch) Sagamore Hill, Oyster Bay NY, is part of the NPS (National Park System), thus, open to public
Wilson: Birthplace in Staunton Va. is part of his Presidential Library, thus open. Adult home in Wash. DC is a museum, open
Harding: Harding Home in Marion Oh., owned by the Ohio Historical Society, open to public
Coolidge: home in Plymouth Vt. open to public
Truman: home in Independence Mo. is part of the NPS, thus open to public
JFK: birthplace is part of NPS. the Kennedy Compound in Hyannis is still the residence of Kennedy family members
Nixon: His San Clemente home (Western White House), is a private residence, not open to public
Ford: He moved around, a lot. There is a home in Grand Rapids where he lived for a while that is on the National Historic Register, same with a house in Virginia after he came to Congress. He had homes in Rancho Mirage CA (where Betty Ford center is), and in Vail Co. None of these seem to be open to the public.
Reagan....see above, home near Santa Barbara not generally open to the public
GHW Bush. Still lives at Walker Point, Kennebunkport ME, and in house in Houston
Clinton....still lives in Chataqua NY house, but as noted, his birthplace is part of NPS
W. Bush...still lives at Crawford Ranch Tx.
Obama...as far as I know he still owns his house in Chicago. Not open to public, obviously
Ergo, it seems that the only deceased Presidents whose homes cannot be visitied are Cleveland, Nixon, Ford, Reagan.
Personally, I think that the Cleveland home in Princeton, the Nixon San Clemente house, and the Reagan Ranch should be acquired by public entities so they can be enjoyed by all concerned. (Fair compensation, of course).
And for Ford....I guess you gotta figure out a place that he lived.
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You don't think very clearly. Terrorists and other idiots do the things they do for the symbology of their acts far more so than for the intelligence they can garner.
E.g.: Carter was the architect of the Israeli/Egyptian Camp David Peace Accords.
Do you not think that there may not be radicals out there who are opposed to the Egypt/Israel peace (and they are out there), that might like to kill or kidnap the architect of that peace?
Especially with all the crap that is going on over there now?
I think plenty clearly magistrate. And Carter is probably the second worst president in history, after Obama that is. And what he orchestrated is back in the Stone age as far as what is happening now a days.
I think plenty clearly magistrate. And Carter is probably the second worst president in history, after Obama that is. And what he orchestrated is back in the Stone age as far as what is happening now a days.
Clear as mud. Any historian could tell you that those who are considered the worst President's in history are the likes of Buchanan, Pierce, Andrew Johnson, Harding, and Fillmore.
And what Carter orchestrated is still considered an ongoing, fully binding treaty between two nations. We have ongoing, fully binding treaties between nations that were negotiated in the early 1800s, even in the 1790s.
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Rutherford B Hayes, our 19th President, was born here in Delaware, Ohio on October 4, 1822. It is sad that he only rates a placard which is in front of the local BP station, next to the sidewalk. The Harding Memorial, 25 miles north on US 23 in Marion is a beautiful monument worthy of a day trip. As you can see, the disparity between the two is monumental. I have not been to the Hayes memorial in Fremont (didn't know it was there until I read Gippers post).
http://www.presidentsusa.net/hayesbp1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Harding_Memorial_Marion_Ohio.jpg
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Rutherford B Hayes, our 19th President, was born here in Delaware, Ohio on October 4, 1822. It is sad that he only rates a placard which is in front of the local BP station, next to the sidewalk. The Harding Memorial, 25 miles north on US 23 in Marion is a beautiful monument worthy of a day trip. As you can see, the disparity between the two is monumental. I have not been to the Hayes memorial in Fremont (didn't know it was there until I read Gippers post).
http://www.presidentsusa.net/hayesbp1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Harding_Memorial_Marion_Ohio.jpg
Rutherford B Hayes, our 19th President, was born here in Delaware, Ohio on October 4, 1822. It is sad that he only rates a placard which is in front of the local BP station, next to the sidewalk. The Harding Memorial, 25 miles north on US 23 in Marion is a beautiful monument worthy of a day trip. As you can see, the disparity between the two is monumental. I have not been to the Hayes memorial in Fremont (didn't know it was there until I read Gippers post).
http://www.presidentsusa.net/hayesbp1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Harding_Memorial_Marion_Ohio.jpg
Hayes was born in Delaware, but I understand that he lived as an adult in Fremont. His home is there and that is why all his "stuff" is there. He did attend Kenyon College (so did my kid) and I think there is a building and even some programs there named after him. And yes, a day trip to see both Hayes and Harding's places would be in order.
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I think plenty clearly magistrate. And Carter is probably the second worst president in history, after Obama that is. And what he orchestrated is back in the Stone age as far as what is happening now a days.
Clear as mud. Any historian could tell you that those who are considered the worst President's in history are the likes of Buchanan, Pierce, Andrew Johnson, Harding, and Fillmore.
And what Carter orchestrated is still considered an ongoing, fully binding treaty between two nations. We have ongoing, fully binding treaties between nations that were negotiated in the early 1800s, even in the 1790s.
Clear as mud. Any historian could tell you that those who are considered the worst President's in history are the likes of Buchanan, Pierce, Andrew Johnson, Harding, Carter, Clinton, Obama and Fillmore.
And what Carter orchestrated is still considered an ongoing, fully binding treaty between two nations. We have ongoing, fully binding treaties between nations that were negotiated in the early 1800s, even in the 1790s.
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You need to visit the Hermitage outside of Nashville. Interesting look at the life of Andrew Jackson.
I am pretty sure the Browns are playing in Nashville next season. That might be a good game for some of the Browns Board members to take a road trip. Visit the Hermitage on Saturday afternoon, then hit the best Honky Tonk in the world that night.
http://http://www.tootsies.net/
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You need to visit the Hermitage outside of Nashville. Interesting look at the life of Andrew Jackson.
I am pretty sure the Browns are playing in Nashville next season. That might be a good game for some of the Browns Board members to take a road trip. Visit the Hermitage on Saturday afternoon, then hit the best Honky Tonk in the world that night.
http://http://www.tootsies.net/
You need to visit the Hermitage outside of Nashville. Interesting look at the life of Andrew Jackson.
I am pretty sure the Browns are playing in Nashville next season. That might be a good game for some of the Browns Board members to take a road trip. Visit the Hermitage on Saturday afternoon, then hit the best Honky Tonk in the world that night.
I was there when I had a convention in Nashville a few years back (2009 I think)
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