Mingo injury may point to more serious problem
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Jesus Christ. Just shut the fuck up already. You're so fucking football illiterate its amusing.
Better for people to think you're an imbecile than to post and prove it.
It was a valid point.
Mingo needs at least a full year of NFL strength training and bulking to reach his full potential. His frame honestly can't take the beating of a full season as an every down DL.
This season, I'd love to see him rotating in and out on "passing downs" (a term that is quickly becoming irrelevant in today's league).
His injury may not have been football related, but you can bet the wear and tear of a full NFL season in the trenches will affect him a little more than some guys outweighing him by 20-30 lbs.
It was a valid point.
Mingo needs at least a full year of NFL strength training and bulking to reach his full potential. His frame honestly can't take the beating of a full season as an every down DL.
This season, I'd love to see him rotating in and out on "passing downs" (a term that is quickly becoming irrelevant in today's league).
His injury may not have been football related, but you can bet the wear and tear of a full NFL season in the trenches will affect him a little more than some guys outweighing him by 20-30 lbs.
Not picking on you here, but I see these type of comments all over the Net.
I guess everyone thinks Lawrence Taylor was a fragile bust too . . .
LT - 6' 3" @ 243lbs with a 4.5 40yd
vs
Mingo - 6' 4" @ 241lbs with a 4.58 40yd
Sure, Mingo may need some conditioning, but primarily he needs NFL game experience.
We picked him for his explosiveness in Pass Rushing, not to be a Run Stuffer.
He may well turn out to be decent vs the Run, we just don't know yet.
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flak jackets, everyone, flak jackets!!
you knew from the start with the happy music playing in the beginning with the la la la music that those villagers were doomed.
collateral damage.
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It was a valid point.
Mingo needs at least a full year of NFL strength training and bulking to reach his full potential. His frame honestly can't take the beating of a full season as an every down DL.
This season, I'd love to see him rotating in and out on "passing downs" (a term that is quickly becoming irrelevant in today's league).
His injury may not have been football related, but you can bet the wear and tear of a full NFL season in the trenches will affect him a little more than some guys outweighing him by 20-30 lbs.
Not picking on you here, but I see these type of comments all over the Net.
I guess everyone thinks Lawrence Taylor was a fragile bust too . . .
LT - 6' 3" @ 243lbs with a 4.5 40yd
vs
Mingo - 6' 4" @ 241lbs with a 4.58 40yd
Sure, Mingo may need some conditioning, but primarily he needs NFL game experience.
We picked him for his explosiveness in Pass Rushing, not to be a Run Stuffer.
He may well turn out to be decent vs the Run, we just don't know yet.
Not picking on you here, but I see these type of comments all over the Net.
I guess everyone thinks Lawrence Taylor was a fragile bust too . . .
LT - 6' 3" @ 243lbs with a 4.5 40yd
vs
Mingo - 6' 4" @ 241lbs with a 4.58 40yd
Sure, Mingo may need some conditioning, but primarily he needs NFL game experience.
We picked him for his explosiveness in Pass Rushing, not to be a Run Stuffer.
He may well turn out to be decent vs the Run, we just don't know yet.
Lawrence Taylor was also drafted thirty years ago, when offensive linemen were, on average, 30 lbs lighter and two inches shorter.
Getting hit by a 6'1 260 OT is a little different than being hit by a 6'4 330 OT.
I just would like to see our #6 overall pick become an effective everydown player, personally.
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How much bigger are players now?
This link quantifies the changes over the years.
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So once again, the Ghoulmiester calls it way before it happens. Browns fans LOVE these shit players like Cribbs... who can do so many wonderful things",, I said before and again I can say I told you so. ZThe guy is too small to be a DE and too clumsy to be an NFL LB, yeah, like Winslow... he can do two things half assed. I saw this as another cortney Brown pick from draft day.
Cut the guy, now. Lets all enjoy another horses ass draft pick.
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So once again, the Ghoulmiester calls it way before it happens. Browns fans LOVE these shit players like Cribbs... who can do so many wonderful things",, I said before and again I can say I told you so. ZThe guy is too small to be a DE and too clumsy to be an NFL LB, yeah, like Winslow... he can do two things half assed. I saw this as another cortney Brown pick from draft day.
Cut the guy, now. Lets all enjoy another horses ass draft pick.
So once again, the Ghoulmiester calls it way before it happens. Browns fans LOVE these shit players like Cribbs... who can do so many wonderful things",, I said before and again I can say I told you so. ZThe guy is too small to be a DE and too clumsy to be an NFL LB, yeah, like Winslow... he can do two things half assed. I saw this as another cortney Brown pick from draft day.
Cut the guy, now. Lets all enjoy another horses ass draft pick.
Hey dipshit- shit player Cribbs is top 10, (and top 5 in most) ALL FUCKING TIME categories in kick returns. Guy was, and I emphasize was great at what he did.
Glad you got your crystal ball revved up- about MIngo- before he's played a down of regular season NFL football. It should also tell you you're going to lose $100 betting me against the Browns this year. .
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hey ghoulie. good to see you bringing your sense of humor back to the board!
what is your ritual before gracing us with your appearances on the browns board? watching an old don rickles rat pack roast and sluggin down a handle of jack? or do you go steal a neighbor's cat and string it up and bleed it out drinking blood over a pentagram?
where's the funny ghoulie? the smarmy ghoulie?
seems like you've been mind-fucked into a doomsday ghoulie which to me is just not your style.
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How much bigger are players now?
This link quantifies the changes over the years.
How much bigger are players now?
This link quantifies the changes over the years.
Thanks for digging this up.
So from this, it looks as if Mingo is right in line for LB's.
He may well turn out to be decent vs the Run, we just don't know yet.
All I meant by this is that he may do a decent job of forcing the play out of bounds or slowing the RB down enough to get (tackling) support.
Haven't you guys seen Haden (who is much smaller) single handedly take down a RB in the Backfield (I know I have)?
If Haden can do it, why couldn't Mingo?
I know we're all Browns fans here, and it's been a long stretch of bad Play/Coaching/Leadership/Luck/etc., but come on, this Team may finally be on the cusp of turning things around.
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How much bigger are players now?
This link quantifies the changes over the years.
How much bigger are players now?
This link quantifies the changes over the years.
Exactly. That's the data I was basing my point from.
Look at the change in offensive linemen. At some positions along the line the average weight is nearly 100 lbs higher.
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How much bigger are players now?
This link quantifies the changes over the years.
Exactly. That's the data I was basing my point from.
Look at the change in offensive linemen. At some positions along the line the average weight is nearly 100 lbs higher.
Exactly. That's the data I was basing my point from.
Look at the change in offensive linemen. At some positions along the line the average weight is nearly 100 lbs higher.
This is why I laugh at stupidsteelerfan who thinks that the 1970s Steelers would have been oh so much better than the 1950s Browns...where they use the argument that they were bigger faster stronger. The answer is: NOT.
Players from the 50s were just about the same height/weight as players of the 70s.
The Oline of the 50s Browns was about the same as the Oline of the 70s Steelers.
The difference in height/weight has come SINCE the 70s.
Linemen then were on average 260 pounds (your link does not go back to the 50s...but I would say that OL were about 250 pounds then)
But now, compared to the 70s, linemen are 50 pounds heavier.
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Horton was saying it's a "fast break game" now, spreading the field, and players simply have to be quicker and faster. Bigger isn't really the issue at the moment. The article referenced Te'o, who made more sense five or seven years ago. Same for Maualuga. Big guys who play downhill and take on guards... yesterday's news.
Craig Robertson is the new prototype. And Daryl Washington. Guys like that. 230 with wheels.
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Exactly. That's the data I was basing my point from.
Look at the change in offensive linemen. At some positions along the line the average weight is nearly 100 lbs higher.
This is why I laugh at stupidsteelerfan who thinks that the 1970s Steelers would have been oh so much better than the 1950s Browns...where they use the argument that they were bigger faster stronger. The answer is: NOT.
Players from the 50s were just about the same height/weight as players of the 70s.
The Oline of the 50s Browns was about the same as the Oline of the 70s Steelers.
The difference in height/weight has come SINCE the 70s.
Linemen then were on average 260 pounds (your link does not go back to the 50s...but I would say that OL were about 250 pounds then)
But now, compared to the 70s, linemen are 50 pounds heavier.
This is why I laugh at stupidsteelerfan who thinks that the 1970s Steelers would have been oh so much better than the 1950s Browns...where they use the argument that they were bigger faster stronger. The answer is: NOT.
Players from the 50s were just about the same height/weight as players of the 70s.
The Oline of the 50s Browns was about the same as the Oline of the 70s Steelers.
The difference in height/weight has come SINCE the 70s.
Linemen then were on average 260 pounds (your link does not go back to the 50s...but I would say that OL were about 250 pounds then)
But now, compared to the 70s, linemen are 50 pounds heavier.
Probably around the time the Steelers started the NFL trend of taking steroids.
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This is why I laugh at stupidsteelerfan who thinks that the 1970s Steelers would have been oh so much better than the 1950s Browns...where they use the argument that they were bigger faster stronger. The answer is: NOT.
Players from the 50s were just about the same height/weight as players of the 70s.
The Oline of the 50s Browns was about the same as the Oline of the 70s Steelers.
The difference in height/weight has come SINCE the 70s.
Linemen then were on average 260 pounds (your link does not go back to the 50s...but I would say that OL were about 250 pounds then)
But now, compared to the 70s, linemen are 50 pounds heavier.
Probably around the time the Steelers started the NFL trend of taking steroids.
Probably around the time the Steelers started the NFL trend of taking steroids.
Oh sure only steeler players used steroids, you ignorant putz. Pretty sure the chargers pioneered it and there are several people on rcord saying more than half the league was on anabolics in the late 60`s early 70`s.
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didn't lyle alzado die of brain cancer attributed to steroid abuse?
and didn't he play for the browns once he left oakland?
testing for steroids in the nfl is like sweeping a dirty photo of anthony weiner under the rug.
and now HGH? pleez.
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Just like we're seeing smaller, faster ILBs, we're gonna see lighter, quicker edge rushers. Some day, some time, does a team run the ball to victory and force change? I don't know. The Colts took away Weeds deep ball and while Trent ran well, you can't keep up in today's league that way. Long drives are getting harder for some reason, subject to penalties that put you right where the defense wants you, behind the sticks.
Just a few days ago, Grossi wrote (basically): "Concerns at RG, second corner, and safety. None matter if QB play is great."
Bam. All of those will look just fine if Weeds is lighting it up.
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Just like we're seeing smaller, faster ILBs, we're gonna see lighter, quicker edge rushers. Some day, some time, does a team run the ball to victory and force change? I don't know. The Colts took away Weeds deep ball and while Trent ran well, you can't keep up in today's league that way. Long drives are getting harder for some reason, subject to penalties that put you right where the defense wants you, behind the sticks.
Just a few days ago, Grossi wrote (basically): "Concerns at RG, second corner, and safety. None matter if QB play is great."
Bam. All of those will look just fine if Weeds is lighting it up.
Just like we're seeing smaller, faster ILBs, we're gonna see lighter, quicker edge rushers. Some day, some time, does a team run the ball to victory and force change? I don't know. The Colts took away Weeds deep ball and while Trent ran well, you can't keep up in today's league that way. Long drives are getting harder for some reason, subject to penalties that put you right where the defense wants you, behind the sticks.
Just a few days ago, Grossi wrote (basically): "Concerns at RG, second corner, and safety. None matter if QB play is great."
Bam. All of those will look just fine if Weeds is lighting it up.
I think the FS position is pretty well taken care of.
Some may say that we should have taken care of the RG/FS/CB positions better in the draft...with those picks that were traded. Some merit to that argument....though the Browns did take a CB(McFadden), Safety(Slaughter) and OG (Gilkey). Its just that those last 2 were 6th/7th rounders, not 3rd/4th.
By the way, did you notice that they misspelled Slaughter's name on his jersey? It was Slaugter. No H.
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Just like we're seeing smaller, faster ILBs, we're gonna see lighter, quicker edge rushers. Some day, some time, does a team run the ball to victory and force change? I don't know. The Colts took away Weeds deep ball and while Trent ran well, you can't keep up in today's league that way. Long drives are getting harder for some reason, subject to penalties that put you right where the defense wants you, behind the sticks.
Just a few days ago, Grossi wrote (basically): "Concerns at RG, second corner, and safety. None matter if QB play is great."
Bam. All of those will look just fine if Weeds is lighting it up.
I think the FS position is pretty well taken care of.
Some may say that we should have taken care of the RG/FS/CB positions better in the draft...with those picks that were traded. Some merit to that argument....though the Browns did take a CB(McFadden), Safety(Slaughter) and OG (Gilkey). Its just that those last 2 were 6th/7th rounders, not 3rd/4th.
By the way, did you notice that they misspelled Slaughter's name on his jersey? It was Slaugter. No H.
By the way, did you notice that they misspelled Slaughter's name on his jersey? It was Slaugter. No H.
whuh???? how does one fuck that up?? that's terrible.
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Mingo is being reported as "probable" for game two. He has a big doctor's appointment next week but everybody's letting out a sigh of relief because he's jogging and lifting with no discomfort at all, no further symptoms. If he's cleared, he still likely sits out game one, returns in game two.
I'm betting you'll never, ever see him on specials again. That's why we're bringing in all these waiver wire linebackers.
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