Browns Cuts
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I'd guess C. Robersons career aspirations took a fatal blow at the 4:33 mark in the 4th quarter of the Colts game. Then again maybe he wowed em enough in training camp to overcome this really bad play
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no worries, they are good w Tr3nt and Obby...both on the field together and spelling one another. both are capable of being 3 down backs...both have good size, both can block, both can catch, and both can run the ball productively. Obby at fb is not as telegraphed as having a pure FB either...his versatility leaves lots of room for wrinkles as well
several times against the Colts i saw them both swing out from opposite sides of the backfield as secondary check down outlets...reminiscent of MartyBall when Mack/Byner were quality safety valves for Bernie. hope we see that formation return this year, i've always liked it in Cle, it had good success for years and years.
no worries, they are good w Tr3nt and Obby...both on the field together and spelling one another. both are capable of being 3 down backs...both have good size, both can block, both can catch, and both can run the ball productively. Obby at fb is not as telegraphed as having a pure FB either...his versatility leaves lots of room for wrinkles as well
several times against the Colts i saw them both swing out from opposite sides of the backfield as secondary check down outlets...reminiscent of MartyBall when Mack/Byner were quality safety valves for Bernie. hope we see that formation return this year, i've always liked it in Cle, it had good success for years and years.
A 16-game NFL season is long, with a lot of hits going on. I'm 100% confident in TRich and Ogby as starters, AND am about 90% confident in BJackson as a 3rd option, but just one injury to either of those three... even a short-term injury... and my confidence plummets...
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Hecks stepped on his dick big time with this kid. Before he even put on a Browns uni I recall Heckert going into damage control mode regarding allegations of undisclosed injuries while at Tennessee. Hards showed some flashes over the years. Too bad things didn't work out for him.
Slot in Trich and Ogbo for the opening dance against the fish.
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Part of me wants them to give Beanie Wells a call. Guy is a pretty tough running back when he can stay on the field... doubt he would take what they would want to pay him for a back up role, but might be able to get a solid season out of him if he had minimal carries. I feel like he is made of the same material that Hardesty is though.
Not to many backs make it through a full season with a full load anymore. When the Giants cut Bradshaw I kept watching for the Browns to make a play for him. That would have been a pretty nice backfield to have, but at the time there wasn't much need for him, and he gets dinged up from time to time too.
I think Jackson and Ogbo can handle the job, maybe Jackson can show us something. Like someone said though, walking a tight rope because if TRich goes down, it could get ugly...
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Marecic has been cut.
Hardesty on Season ending IR
WR Croom cut
OL Ryan Miller cut
More here:
Marecic has been cut.
Hardesty on Season ending IR
WR Croom cut
OL Ryan Miller cut
More here:
I see that this FO is divesting itself of the marginal Heckert/Holmgren guys with Miller and Marecic out. Marecic, sure. I wasn't sure Miller was that bad....more hurt than bad.
But they certainly have whittled down that WR corps: Roberson/Norwood/Croom+Tannahill
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no worries, they are good w Tr3nt and Obby...both on the field together and spelling one another. both are capable of being 3 down backs...both have good size, both can block, both can catch, and both can run the ball productively. Obby at fb is not as telegraphed as having a pure FB either...his versatility leaves lots of room for wrinkles as well
several times against the Colts i saw them both swing out from opposite sides of the backfield as secondary check down outlets...reminiscent of MartyBall when Mack/Byner were quality safety valves for Bernie. hope we see that formation return this year, i've always liked it in Cle, it had good success for years and years.
no worries, they are good w Tr3nt and Obby...both on the field together and spelling one another. both are capable of being 3 down backs...both have good size, both can block, both can catch, and both can run the ball productively. Obby at fb is not as telegraphed as having a pure FB either...his versatility leaves lots of room for wrinkles as well
several times against the Colts i saw them both swing out from opposite sides of the backfield as secondary check down outlets...reminiscent of MartyBall when Mack/Byner were quality safety valves for Bernie. hope we see that formation return this year, i've always liked it in Cle, it had good success for years and years.
Yes....those 2 I believe can both be versatile 3 down backs. With Brandon Jackson to spell them some...plus someone...anyone to back up. Keep checking the waiver wire.
The Lewis thing does hurt. Hardesty on IR again simply means, to me, that we have seen the end of him.
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Names recently sent packing by other teams:
Josh Cribbs
Braylon Edwards
Donte Stallworth
Carlton Mitchell
they all seem to ring a bell.
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no worries, they are good w Tr3nt and Obby...both on the field together and spelling one another. both are capable of being 3 down backs...both have good size, both can block, both can catch, and both can run the ball productively. Obby at fb is not as telegraphed as having a pure FB either...his versatility leaves lots of room for wrinkles as well
several times against the Colts i saw them both swing out from opposite sides of the backfield as secondary check down outlets...reminiscent of MartyBall when Mack/Byner were quality safety valves for Bernie. hope we see that formation return this year, i've always liked it in Cle, it had good success for years and years.
Yes....those 2 I believe can both be versatile 3 down backs. With Brandon Jackson to spell them some...plus someone...anyone to back up. Keep checking the waiver wire.
The Lewis thing does hurt. Hardesty on IR again simply means, to me, that we have seen the end of him.
Hardesty on IR again simply means, to me, that we have seen the end of him.
You can't cut an injured player. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and we just shelved him for the year ... he's gone.
Zombo
--Expect him to be released sometime during the year when he is deemed healthy
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Hardesty on IR again simply means, to me, that we have seen the end of him.
You can't cut an injured player. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and we just shelved him for the year ... he's gone.
Zombo
--Expect him to be released sometime during the year when he is deemed healthy
Zombo said:
You can't cut an injured player. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and we just shelved him for the year ... he's gone.
Zombo
--Expect him to be released sometime during the year when he is deemed healthy
Interesting. What if a team just didnt designate him as "IR" and cut him? Would the union block that?
Is a player still paid the same on IR?
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Hardesty on IR again simply means, to me, that we have seen the end of him.
You can't cut an injured player. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and we just shelved him for the year ... he's gone.
Zombo
--Expect him to be released sometime during the year when he is deemed healthy
Zombo said:
You can't cut an injured player. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and we just shelved him for the year ... he's gone.
Zombo
--Expect him to be released sometime during the year when he is deemed healthy
Does that mean Ryan Miller is now deemed healthy? If so, then it appears to me that they must have been determined to cut him anyway....as he never really saw any game action in the preseason to evaluate him, did they?
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Zombo said:
You can't cut an injured player. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and we just shelved him for the year ... he's gone.
Zombo
--Expect him to be released sometime during the year when he is deemed healthy
Interesting. What if a team just didnt designate him as "IR" and cut him? Would the union block that?
Is a player still paid the same on IR?
Interesting. What if a team just didnt designate him as "IR" and cut him? Would the union block that?
Is a player still paid the same on IR?
Can I assume that a guy who is on IR must still: A. be paid, and B. have his salary count against the salary cap?
Do they have to wait till the end of the season to release him? What if he recovers from his...what I thought was supposed to be minor surgery? Can they dump him then?
I suspect he isn't making so much that they are not willing to go ahead and pay him just to not have any injury issue hassles. (but again, my question...how is he different from Miller)
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Zombo said:
You can't cut an injured player. He's in the final year of his rookie contract and we just shelved him for the year ... he's gone.
Zombo
--Expect him to be released sometime during the year when he is deemed healthy
Interesting. What if a team just didnt designate him as "IR" and cut him? Would the union block that?
Is a player still paid the same on IR?
Interesting. What if a team just didnt designate him as "IR" and cut him? Would the union block that?
Is a player still paid the same on IR?
Yes and Yes.
Hardesty collects a check until he's healthy, then he will, in all likelihood, be cut.
Zombo
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As far as the running back situation goes, what gives me some solace is that RB seems to be a position where lesser known, late round/undrafted guys can play. Sure right now it doesn't look on paper, but Maysonnet could just be a shifty little runner.
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Interesting. What if a team just didnt designate him as "IR" and cut him? Would the union block that?
Is a player still paid the same on IR?
Can I assume that a guy who is on IR must still: A. be paid, and B. have his salary count against the salary cap?
Do they have to wait till the end of the season to release him? What if he recovers from his...what I thought was supposed to be minor surgery? Can they dump him then?
I suspect he isn't making so much that they are not willing to go ahead and pay him just to not have any injury issue hassles. (but again, my question...how is he different from Miller)
Can I assume that a guy who is on IR must still: A. be paid, and B. have his salary count against the salary cap?
Do they have to wait till the end of the season to release him? What if he recovers from his...what I thought was supposed to be minor surgery? Can they dump him then?
I suspect he isn't making so much that they are not willing to go ahead and pay him just to not have any injury issue hassles. (but again, my question...how is he different from Miller)
Miller is healthy that is why they cut him. If he feels he isn't healthy, he can complain to the union. Yes, you have to pay guys on IR, but you can also release them when they are healthy.
Zombo
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no worries, they are good w Tr3nt and Obby...both on the field together and spelling one another. both are capable of being 3 down backs...both have good size, both can block, both can catch, and both can run the ball productively. Obby at fb is not as telegraphed as having a pure FB either...his versatility leaves lots of room for wrinkles as well
several times against the Colts i saw them both swing out from opposite sides of the backfield as secondary check down outlets...reminiscent of MartyBall when Mack/Byner were quality safety valves for Bernie. hope we see that formation return this year, i've always liked it in Cle, it had good success for years and years.
A 16-game NFL season is long, with a lot of hits going on. I'm 100% confident in TRich and Ogby as starters, AND am about 90% confident in BJackson as a 3rd option, but just one injury to either of those three... even a short-term injury... and my confidence plummets...
A 16-game NFL season is long, with a lot of hits going on. I'm 100% confident in TRich and Ogby as starters, AND am about 90% confident in BJackson as a 3rd option, but just one injury to either of those three... even a short-term injury... and my confidence plummets...
i hear ya. what a difference a couple weeks can make. went from having arrogant depth all over to being razor thin at guard, rb, wr and cb.
injuries are a legit concern moving forward.
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Chud to rest most starters thursday, including BW and T Rich. Gordon will still play.
Good move, no one gets injured. Would like BW to get more reps tho
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A 16-game NFL season is long, with a lot of hits going on. I'm 100% confident in TRich and Ogby as starters, AND am about 90% confident in BJackson as a 3rd option, but just one injury to either of those three... even a short-term injury... and my confidence plummets...
i hear ya. what a difference a couple weeks can make. went from having arrogant depth all over to being razor thin at guard, rb, wr and cb.
injuries are a legit concern moving forward.
i hear ya. what a difference a couple weeks can make. went from having arrogant depth all over to being razor thin at guard, rb, wr and cb.
injuries are a legit concern moving forward.
How are we razor thin at Wr? Gordon, Little, Benjamin, Bess, Nelson, and Cooper. None are "hurt", with the exception of Nelson who is rehabbing from an old injury. Factor in Cameron, Davis and Barnidge who will, at some point, be flexed out and we're fine.
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i hear ya. what a difference a couple weeks can make. went from having arrogant depth all over to being razor thin at guard, rb, wr and cb.
injuries are a legit concern moving forward.
How are we razor thin at Wr? Gordon, Little, Benjamin, Bess, Nelson, and Cooper. None are "hurt", with the exception of Nelson who is rehabbing from an old injury. Factor in Cameron, Davis and Barnidge who will, at some point, be flexed out and we're fine.
How are we razor thin at Wr? Gordon, Little, Benjamin, Bess, Nelson, and Cooper. None are "hurt", with the exception of Nelson who is rehabbing from an old injury. Factor in Cameron, Davis and Barnidge who will, at some point, be flexed out and we're fine.
Yea, if they were thin at those positions, then why did they just ditch a number of them?
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