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  • @miktoxic said:

    ok here i got the gints and jets games and the ncaa games on espn.

    where's the chatter about the browns vs. bears game from all those who watched?

    i mean did they suck. was it all 3rd stringers? who impressed and who got hurt?

    Look at the Box Score. Don't watch the game. I watched about a 1/2 hour and couldn't take it anymore. No starters played for either team except Gordon and Cousins/Gilkey rotating at RG. Not much to watch. You'll know how the game went on Saturday around 6pm when you see who got cut.

    @thenew23 said:

    Look at the Box Score. Don't watch the game. I watched about a 1/2 hour and couldn't take it anymore. No starters played for either team except Gordon and Cousins/Gilkey rotating at RG. Not much to watch. You'll know how the game went on Saturday around 6pm when you see who got cut.

    Well, wasn't always this way. This is where the NFL has to step in and do something- and not necessarily cut the preseason to 2 games either. You're asking the season ticket holder to pay full freight for a game where the starters don't even play? Really? Cut tickets to 1\2 price, and load the games that count with the difference- in my case that would be about $4 per game, and they still get the same amount of money.

  • @thenew23 said:

    Look at the Box Score. Don't watch the game. I watched about a 1/2 hour and couldn't take it anymore. No starters played for either team except Gordon and Cousins/Gilkey rotating at RG. Not much to watch. You'll know how the game went on Saturday around 6pm when you see who got cut.

    Well, wasn't always this way. This is where the NFL has to step in and do something- and not necessarily cut the preseason to 2 games either. You're asking the season ticket holder to pay full freight for a game where the starters don't even play? Really? Cut tickets to 1\2 price, and load the games that count with the difference- in my case that would be about $4 per game, and they still get the same amount of money.

    @hoorta said:

    Well, wasn't always this way. This is where the NFL has to step in and do something- and not necessarily cut the preseason to 2 games either. You're asking the season ticket holder to pay full freight for a game where the starters don't even play? Really? Cut tickets to 1\2 price, and load the games that count with the difference- in my case that would be about $4 per game, and they still get the same amount of money.

    For a season ticket holder these team should charge a set price for a seat for the entire season....that would be the equivalent of 9 games at regular season prices. Shouldn't a discount of this sort be offered? Then they can say that one preseason game is free.

  • Cole #41 played lights out, sure as hell hope he makes the team.
    Also Staples and Sanford looked good and can fuckin move to the ball.

    McFadden certainly looked up and down, along with Kennah.

    Hopefully Armonty Bryant makes the team, he seems like a good pickup for a 7 rounder (or 6?)

    And Gordon did look good and fast out there. He is shaping up to be like a shorter but faster AJ Green with the way he can catch the ball so smoothly.

  • Some thoughts on the final Browns preseason game, the 18-16 victory at Chicago:

    1. Brian Hoyer looked like a good backup quarterback, and he supplies real depth at No. 3. He is experienced and doesn't seem to make many poor decisions or panic under pressure. But he's not a big-play guy, so let's not start with this "Maybe Hoyer can start" talk. In the preseason, he completed 66 percent of his passes, with two touchdowns and three interceptions. His rating was 79.2. He's a nice off-season pickup by General Manager Michael Lombardi, but please, he's a backup.

    2. Physically, the 6-foot-5, 215-pound David Nelson looks like an NFL wide receiver and he makes an excellent target. In 2011, he caught 61 passes for Buffalo, so he has talent. But the major knee surgery of a year ago wiped out 2012, and he didn't appear ready (or healthy). Ten passes were thrown his way, he caught four. He had at least one drop, and he fell down a few times running patterns. He was limping at times. The Browns can't count on him and may have to cut him.

    3. Somewhere, the Browns must find another receiver. They have veteran Davone Bess for the slot. They have Greg Little and Josh Gordon (when not suspended) on the outside. They have Travis Benjamin as a wide receiver. I have a hard time generating any enthusiasm for Josh Cooper, who caught three passes for a grand total of 11 yards. Maybe there will be help from another team when final cuts are made this weekend.

    4. Brandon Jackson carried the ball 28 times in the preseason, gaining 43 yards. That's a 1.5 average, and that's poor. He was given a chance to win a backup spot, and I don't think he's earned it. He had twice as many carries as anyone else in an orange helmet in the preseason. Other than Trent Richardson (4.9-yard average) and the injured Dion Lewis (4.5-yard average), no one looked good in the backfield.

    5. So add running back to the shopping list with wide receiver when players hit the waiver wire.

    6. Yes, Chris Ogbonnaya can do a decent job in the backfield, but he is mostly a fullback. They need another runner.

    7. While James-Michael Johnson picked off a pass and ran for a touchdown, I thought linebackers L.J. Fort and Tank Carder looked much better on the inside. Justin Cole batted down two passes at outside linebacker, and he may have earned a spot on the roster -- especially with top pick Barkevious Mingo out with that bruised lung.

    8. Brian Sanford is a viable NFL lineman who can be in the rotation on most teams. He looked good Thursday night. Remember, Sanford was in that voided deal to Seattle. He returned to Cleveland and continues to push hard for a roster spot on this team with a very deep defensive line. His reaction to the non-trade is impressive as he refused to let it bother him.

    9. Leon McFadden has been very iffy in his two preseason games. The third-rounder missed part of camp and two games with an injury. He is not ready for prime time. Don't write him off, just be aware that cornerback is a very unforgiving position for any rookie. McFadden never came close to pressing for a spot as a starter or nickel back.

    10. Armonty Bryant forced a fumble, and seemed to be in the face of the quarterback a few times. The seventh-rounder with the troubled past also has stayed out trouble, which could help him stay on the roster. He is a "project," as defensive coordinator Ray Horton called him. But Bryant does have some natural talent and quickness. Linebacker Justin Staples (St. Edward) also had some good moments on special teams.

    http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index.ssf/2013/08/cleveland_browns_scribbles_aft.html#incart_river

  • let's not start with this "Maybe Hoyer can start" talk.

    Agreed!

  • Bears cut both QB Jordan Palmer and QB Trent Edwards, the QB's that played against us last night . . . not sure what to make of that.

  • You have to realize that this was the last pre season game, used for the scrubs to figure out who will stay and who will go. Nothing more.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You have to realize that this was the last pre season game, used for the scrubs to figure out who will stay and who will go. Nothing more.

    You SHOULD have realised that THIS was one of the last chances fans would get to see a Browns win in 2013-14.

    Browns go 3- 13 +/- 1 win. Miami wins the opener, and it's downhill from there. 0 - 8 at the break.

  • You have to realize that this was the last pre season game, used for the scrubs to figure out who will stay and who will go. Nothing more.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You have to realize that this was the last pre season game, used for the scrubs to figure out who will stay and who will go. Nothing more.

    why didnt most of the starters play then? most of them are bums that need alot of practice. Why squander an opportunity to get more experience for a young team for the likes of brian hoyer.

  • @miktoxic said:

    ok here i got the gints and jets games and the ncaa games on espn.

    where's the chatter about the browns vs. bears game from all those who watched?

    i mean did they suck. was it all 3rd stringers? who impressed and who got hurt?

    I'd love to tell you but WHIO figured they could sell more commercial time airing Big Brother, and the local radio outlet has a commitment with the critical Class A Dayton Dragons. If you want to watch it- the NFL Network has it on Sunday Evening.

    @hoorta said:

    If you want to watch it- the NFL Network has it on Sunday Evening.

    yes and i couldn't watch it cuz the old lady's shows were on (secret millionaire, ray donovan etc) so i'm catching some of these other games now that she hit the sack.

    one thing i will disagree about with a lot of the posters on here is that these games are not meaningless. sure they suck to watch but i'm watching the rerun of the rams vs. ravens game and what these games DO show is the depth of certain positions on each team.

    i tell you what, and i called it earlier that it'll be the browns and bengals fighting for the top of our division. one injury here or there on both the ravens or steelers and they are DONE.

    ravens 2nd and 3rd stringers on defense are all overweight and gassed. don't know if they all went to dennys and ordered their grand slam breakfast x3 but kellen clemens with a busted jaw lip teeth just went right down the field and put them into posdition for a field goal. yeah a field goal, but these guys could barely get off the field with their lack of conditioning.

  • wow. clemens does the willis reed. comes back in toothless and stiched up and leads the rams to a td drive.

    dude looks awesome.

  • @hoorta said:

    If you want to watch it- the NFL Network has it on Sunday Evening.

    yes and i couldn't watch it cuz the old lady's shows were on (secret millionaire, ray donovan etc) so i'm catching some of these other games now that she hit the sack.

    one thing i will disagree about with a lot of the posters on here is that these games are not meaningless. sure they suck to watch but i'm watching the rerun of the rams vs. ravens game and what these games DO show is the depth of certain positions on each team.

    i tell you what, and i called it earlier that it'll be the browns and bengals fighting for the top of our division. one injury here or there on both the ravens or steelers and they are DONE.

    ravens 2nd and 3rd stringers on defense are all overweight and gassed. don't know if they all went to dennys and ordered their grand slam breakfast x3 but kellen clemens with a busted jaw lip teeth just went right down the field and put them into posdition for a field goal. yeah a field goal, but these guys could barely get off the field with their lack of conditioning.

    @miktoxic said:

    yes and i couldn't watch it cuz the old lady's shows were on (secret millionaire, ray donovan etc) so i'm catching some of these other games now that she hit the sack.

    one thing i will disagree about with a lot of the posters on here is that these games are not meaningless. sure they suck to watch but i'm watching the rerun of the rams vs. ravens game and what these games DO show is the depth of certain positions on each team.

    i tell you what, and i called it earlier that it'll be the browns and bengals fighting for the top of our division. one injury here or there on both the ravens or steelers and they are DONE.

    ravens 2nd and 3rd stringers on defense are all overweight and gassed. don't know if they all went to dennys and ordered their grand slam breakfast x3 but kellen clemens with a busted jaw lip teeth just went right down the field and put them into posdition for a field goal. yeah a field goal, but these guys could barely get off the field with their lack of conditioning.

    To start off I want to say that I think the Browns will hold their own this year. If people really think about it, for the last few years they have been on the cusp really, ALOT of close games. One possession could have changed quite a few outcomes. The coaching upgrades will be tremendous + YOUNG potential. With that said I'll get to the point. Mik mentioned above that an injury here or there would hurt the chances of our division rivals, I just wanted to add that the same could be said for us. Any injuries to any of our more talented players could be the start of a train wreck season, just keep in mind. 8-8/9-7 and I'll be flyin high! Go Browns!!