Dolphin Fans: A Bunch of Tools
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Hello Browns Fans!
Just thought I'd drop a line to respectfully disagree
Here's what I know:
1 - Cleveland has amazing run D
2 - Miami has amazing run D
3 - This game will be decided in the air
4 - Both QB's match well against each other
5 - Miami's weapons are better than Cleveland's "Josh Gordonless" weapons
Miami 21
Cleveland 17
All in all, I expect to see a very good game on both sides. Best of luck to ya
Hello Browns Fans!
Just thought I'd drop a line to respectfully disagree
Here's what I know:
1 - Cleveland has amazing run D...that remains to be seen
2 - Miami has amazing run D...so does that.
3 - This game will be decided in the air...as does nearly every NFL game.
4 - Both QB's match well against each other...You should set them up on a date.
5 - Miami's weapons are better than Cleveland's "Josh Gordonless" weapons
Prove it. Support your statement with facts/figures/arguments.
Miami 21
Cleveland 17
All in all, I expect to see a very good game on both sides. Best of luck to ya
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You mean our 1,000+ yard receiver Brian Hartline?
Our 4.9 YPC RB Lamar Miller? (Trent Richardson is 3.6 FYI)
Mike Wallace... c'mon man...
I'll throw in my silent hero for this game, Brandon Gibson. Definitely an improvement over our previous slot receiver Davon Bess who created more 3rd downs than he converted. I like our chances.
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In all honesty, if Josh Gordon was playing, I'd probably give the edge to Cleveland. And if there's a question about Brent Grimes, watch this:
All indications from preseason are he is back to form 100%
Also keep in mind, Miami's front 4 is a top 3 unit in the league that is extremely deep with a 7 man rotation that includes 3 Pro Bowlers (Cameron Wake, Paul Solai, Randy Starks) which will be lined up against Cleveland's turnstile guards. My only worry is Miami's left tackle situation which is not what it use to be with Jake Long. Expect a lot of TE help on the left side.
In all honesty, if Josh Gordon was playing, I'd probably give the edge to Cleveland. And if there's a question about Brent Grimes, watch this:
All indications from preseason are he is back to form 100%
Also keep in mind, Miami's front 4 is a top 3 unit in the league that is extremely deep with a 7 man rotation that includes 3 Pro Bowlers (Cameron Wake, Paul Solai, Randy Starks) which will be lined up against Cleveland's turnstile guards. My only worry is Miami's left tackle situation which is not what it use to be with Jake Long. Expect a lot of TE help on the left side.
The Browns have 3 Pro Bowl caliber offensive linemen. And Greco and either Lauvao or Gilkey will do fine. That doesn't concern me. Browns have the best LT in the game.
The questions will be: can the Browns put the pressure on Tannehill. Can the Browns secondary hold up. Can the offense move the ball and score.
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I'll be honest, the Dolphins OL is week at Left Tackle and Right Guard. Jonothan Martin is the new LT and he is NOT Jake Long (now a Ram). John Jerry is starting at RG and has been shaky in pass protection. We'll see. I'm not worried about our Pass Rush against Cleveland. I don't care how many pro bowlers you have on the line, we have more "actual" pro bowlers on our DL lol.
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Here's what Dolphins fans are saying: http://www.phinfever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9583
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You mean our 1,000+ yard receiver Brian Hartline?
Our 4.9 YPC RB Lamar Miller? (Trent Richardson is 3.6 FYI)
Mike Wallace... c'mon man...
I'll throw in my silent hero for this game, Brandon Gibson. Definitely an improvement over our previous slot receiver Davon Bess who created more 3rd downs than he converted. I like our chances.
You mean our 1,000+ yard receiver Brian Hartline?
Kid from North Canton and Ohio St. A decent possession receiver...but not scary. We have a guy about like him....a third stringer named Josh Cooper.
Our 4.9 YPC RB Lamar Miller? (Trent Richardson is 3.6 FYI)
Really? Are you telling us that you would not trade Miller even up for TR?
Mike Wallace... c'mon man...
You sound like you are disparaging him. Don't you like him? Steeler fans that come on here claim that team is better off without him. Debatable...they always say someone is not as good as people think he is when a player leaves that team. Nevertheless...yes, Joe Haden has him covered and it certainly won't be that big a day for him
I'll throw in my silent hero for this game, Brandon Gibson. Definitely an improvement over our previous slot receiver Davon Bess who created more 3rd downs than he converted. I like our chances.
Speaking of disparaging players that leave....if you think that losing Bess is no big deal, then perhaps Steeler fan is also right....Mike Wallace is just overhyped.
Who do you think is right?
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I'll be honest, the Dolphins OL is week at Left Tackle and Right Guard. Jonothan Martin is the new LT and he is NOT Jake Long (now a Ram). John Jerry is starting at RG and has been shaky in pass protection. We'll see. I'm not worried about our Pass Rush against Cleveland. I don't care how many pro bowlers you have on the line, we have more "actual" pro bowlers on our DL lol.
I'll be honest, the Dolphins OL is week at Left Tackle and Right Guard. Jonothan Martin is the new LT and he is NOT Jake Long (now a Ram). John Jerry is starting at RG and has been shaky in pass protection. We'll see. I'm not worried about our Pass Rush against Cleveland. I don't care how many pro bowlers you have on the line, we have more "actual" pro bowlers on our DL lol.
You have every reason to not be worried about your pass rush against Cleveland. You won't have much of one.
I am perfectly happy with the matchup. Your "good" DL against our better OL.
But, as good as you think your DL may be....the Browns front 7 may be better. Sheard/Taylor/Rubin/Bryant/Kruger/Jackson/Robertson...with Groves/Mingo/Billy Winn/The Sausage King in reserve.
The Browns front 7 seems to be strength of the team.
Unless the strength of the Browns is our OL. We have one OG position that may be iffy. You seem to imply your entire OL is spotty. Not a comfortable position for Tannehill.
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Hello Browns Fans!
Just thought I'd drop a line to respectfully disagree
Here's what I know:
1 - Cleveland has amazing run D
2 - Miami has amazing run D
3 - This game will be decided in the air
4 - Both QB's match well against each other
5 - Miami's weapons are better than Cleveland's "Josh Gordonless" weapons
Miami 21
Cleveland 17
All in all, I expect to see a very good game on both sides. Best of luck to ya
With that fag dolphin you're bound to lose.
With that fag dolphin you're bound to lose.
I put something in the toilet this morning that resembles the colors of your team.
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Hello Browns Fans!
Just thought I'd drop a line to respectfully disagree
Here's what I know:
1 - Cleveland has amazing run D
2 - Miami has amazing run D
3 - This game will be decided in the air
4 - Both QB's match well against each other
5 - Miami's weapons are better than Cleveland's "Josh Gordonless" weapons
Miami 21
Cleveland 17
All in all, I expect to see a very good game on both sides. Best of luck to ya
What are your weapons again? Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline and Lamar Miller?
Haden will hold Wallace to one big gainer, we are used to him.
Hartline and Miller are not scary and either is your tight end, whoever that may be
Richardson, Little, Benjamin, Cameron ... you may not be familiar with all of them now, but you will be by 4PM Sunday.
Zombo
Zombo said:
What are your weapons again? Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline and Lamar Miller?
Haden will hold Wallace to one big gainer, we are used to him.
Hartline and Miller are not scary and either is your tight end, whoever that may be
Richardson, Little, Benjamin, Cameron ... you may not be familiar with all of them now, but you will be by 4PM Sunday.
Zombo
Mike Wallace and Brian Hartline combined have accomplished more than Little, Benjamin and Cameron.
Let's not forget your other starting receiver, Davone Bess, who we dumped on you because the guy doesn't know what TDs or YAC are.
And at least our QB doesn't turn the ball over at a record pace.
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By the way I hail from Phinfever.com
Feel free to pop over for some friendly banter
Ski, please don't invite these folks over to our site. People who respond by bashing our "fag" logo because they have no substance are not welcome there.
It is hard being a Browns fan, just like it is hard being a Dolphins fan. Neither franchise has done much lately.
However, in Miami, if our football team sucks, our basketball team takes over (yes, that is a shot because we stole Lebron James from you).
In Cleveland, every team sucks.
And in Miami, if every team sucks, you still have beaches, clubs, and a whole bunch of other stuff to do.
In Cleveland... you can be depressed about how crappy your city looks and how hard it is to get a job.
I guess that's why they are too emotional to have an intelligent discussion about the game and resort to bashing our "fag" logo.
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OK, lets look at the matchups and see who gets the edge:
Browns vs. Dolphins:
QB Weeden vs. Tannehill
RB Richardson vs. Miller
FB Ogbanaya vs. Tyler Clutts
TE Cameron vs. Charles Clay
WR Little vs. Mike Wallace
WR Bess vs. Hartline
LT Joe Thomas vs. Jonathan Martin
LG John Greco vs. Rich Incognito
C Mack vs. Mike Pouncey
RG Oneil Cousins vs. Jerry John
RT Schwartz vs. Tyson Clabo
Defense: (Browns run 3-4...Fins 4-3, so head to head is not quite possible)
DEs: Rubin and D. Bryant vs. Cameron Wake and Olivier Vernon
DTs: Phil Taylor vs. Randy Starks and Paul Soliai
LOBs: Kruger and Sheard vs. Koa Misi and Phillip Wheeler
ILBs: Robertson and DQ Jackson vs. Dan Ellerbe
LCB: Haden vs. Brent Grimes
SS: TJ Ward vs. Reshad Jones
FS: Gipson vs. Chris Clemens
RCB: Buster Skrine vs. Dmitri Patterson
Give us who has the edge at each slot.
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Hello Browns Fans!
Just thought I'd drop a line to respectfully disagree
Here's what I know:
1 - Cleveland has amazing run D
2 - Miami has amazing run D
3 - This game will be decided in the air
4 - Both QB's match well against each other
5 - Miami's weapons are better than Cleveland's "Josh Gordonless" weapons
Miami 21
Cleveland 17
All in all, I expect to see a very good game on both sides. Best of luck to ya
What are your weapons again? Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline and Lamar Miller?
Haden will hold Wallace to one big gainer, we are used to him.
Hartline and Miller are not scary and either is your tight end, whoever that may be
Richardson, Little, Benjamin, Cameron ... you may not be familiar with all of them now, but you will be by 4PM Sunday.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Benjamin
You might want to check and see which school he played ball in.
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OK, lets look at the matchups and see who gets the edge:
Browns vs. Dolphins:
QB Weeden vs. Tannehill
RB Richardson vs. Miller
FB Ogbanaya vs. Tyler Clutts
TE Cameron vs. Charles Clay
WR Little vs. Mike Wallace
WR Bess vs. Hartline
LT Joe Thomas vs. Jonathan Martin
LG John Greco vs. Rich Incognito
C Mack vs. Mike Pouncey
RG Oneil Cousins vs. Jerry John
RT Schwartz vs. Tyson Clabo
Defense: (Browns run 3-4...Fins 4-3, so head to head is not quite possible)
DEs: Rubin and D. Bryant vs. Cameron Wake and Olivier Vernon
DTs: Phil Taylor vs. Randy Starks and Paul Soliai
LOBs: Kruger and Sheard vs. Koa Misi and Phillip Wheeler
ILBs: Robertson and DQ Jackson vs. Dan Ellerbe
LCB: Haden vs. Brent Grimes
SS: TJ Ward vs. Reshad Jones
FS: Gipson vs. Chris Clemens
RCB: Buster Skrine vs. Dmitri Patterson
Give us who has the edge at each slot.
OK, lets look at the matchups and see who gets the edge:
Browns vs. Dolphins:
QB Weeden vs. Tannehill
RB Richardson vs. Miller
FB Ogbanaya vs. Tyler Clutts
TE Cameron vs. Charles Clay
WR Little vs. Mike Wallace
WR Bess vs. Hartline
LT Joe Thomas vs. Jonathan Martin
LG John Greco vs. Rich Incognito
C Mack vs. Mike Pouncey
RG Oneil Cousins vs. Jerry John
RT Schwartz vs. Tyson Clabo
Defense: (Browns run 3-4...Fins 4-3, so head to head is not quite possible)
DEs: Rubin and D. Bryant vs. Cameron Wake and Olivier Vernon
DTs: Phil Taylor vs. Randy Starks and Paul Soliai
LOBs: Kruger and Sheard vs. Koa Misi and Phillip Wheeler
ILBs: Robertson and DQ Jackson vs. Dan Ellerbe
LCB: Haden vs. Brent Grimes
SS: TJ Ward vs. Reshad Jones
FS: Gipson vs. Chris Clemens
RCB: Buster Skrine vs. Dmitri Patterson
Give us who has the edge at each slot.
Did football rules change?
I did not realize our offenses or defenses would both be on the field at the same time...
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OK, lets look at the matchups and see who gets the edge:
Browns vs. Dolphins:
QB Weeden vs. Tannehill
RB Richardson vs. Miller
FB Ogbanaya vs. Tyler Clutts
TE Cameron vs. Charles Clay
WR Little vs. Mike Wallace
WR Bess vs. Hartline
LT Joe Thomas vs. Jonathan Martin
LG John Greco vs. Rich Incognito
C Mack vs. Mike Pouncey
RG Oneil Cousins vs. Jerry John
RT Schwartz vs. Tyson Clabo
Defense: (Browns run 3-4...Fins 4-3, so head to head is not quite possible)
DEs: Rubin and D. Bryant vs. Cameron Wake and Olivier Vernon
DTs: Phil Taylor vs. Randy Starks and Paul Soliai
LOBs: Kruger and Sheard vs. Koa Misi and Phillip Wheeler
ILBs: Robertson and DQ Jackson vs. Dan Ellerbe
LCB: Haden vs. Brent Grimes
SS: TJ Ward vs. Reshad Jones
FS: Gipson vs. Chris Clemens
RCB: Buster Skrine vs. Dmitri Patterson
Give us who has the edge at each slot.
OK, lets look at the matchups and see who gets the edge:
Browns vs. Dolphins:
QB Weeden vs. Tannehill
RB Richardson vs. Miller
FB Ogbanaya vs. Tyler Clutts
TE Cameron vs. Charles Clay
WR Little vs. Mike Wallace
WR Bess vs. Hartline
LT Joe Thomas vs. Jonathan Martin
LG John Greco vs. Rich Incognito
C Mack vs. Mike Pouncey
RG Oneil Cousins vs. Jerry John
RT Schwartz vs. Tyson Clabo
Defense: (Browns run 3-4...Fins 4-3, so head to head is not quite possible)
DEs: Rubin and D. Bryant vs. Cameron Wake and Olivier Vernon
DTs: Phil Taylor vs. Randy Starks and Paul Soliai
LOBs: Kruger and Sheard vs. Koa Misi and Phillip Wheeler
ILBs: Robertson and DQ Jackson vs. Dan Ellerbe
LCB: Haden vs. Brent Grimes
SS: TJ Ward vs. Reshad Jones
FS: Gipson vs. Chris Clemens
RCB: Buster Skrine vs. Dmitri Patterson
Give us who has the edge at each slot.
QB - Tie
RB - Cle (for now)
FB - Nothing to write home, either side
TE - Ditto
WR1 - Mia
WR2 - Mia (proved over history on the same team FYI)
LT - Cle
LG - Mia
C - Mia
RG - Cle (sad to say)
RT - Mia
DE - Mia no contest (look at PFF numbers)
DT - Mia no contest (look at PFF numbers)
L/ROLB - Toss up... any given Sunday applies here
ILB/MLB - Mia
LCB - Mia
SS - Mia
FS - Eh... any given Sunday
RCB - ditto
I think we win
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Zombo said:
What are your weapons again? Mike Wallace, Brian Hartline and Lamar Miller?
Haden will hold Wallace to one big gainer, we are used to him.
Hartline and Miller are not scary and either is your tight end, whoever that may be
Richardson, Little, Benjamin, Cameron ... you may not be familiar with all of them now, but you will be by 4PM Sunday.
Zombo
Mike Wallace and Brian Hartline combined have accomplished more than Little, Benjamin and Cameron.
Let's not forget your other starting receiver, Davone Bess, who we dumped on you because the guy doesn't know what TDs or YAC are.
And at least our QB doesn't turn the ball over at a record pace.
Mike Wallace and Brian Hartline combined have accomplished more than Little, Benjamin and Cameron.
Yea, they are long time veterans...and ours are 2d year guys. And Wallace ain't got BR throwing to him now...or Sanders/Emmanuel/Hines Ward to accompany him. again, talk to Steeler fan...they go on about how Wallace was addition by subtraction. The question of whether or not Wallace is a true #1 WR is still up for grabs.
Let's not forget your other starting receiver, Davone Bess, who we dumped on you because the guy doesn't know what TDs or YAC are.
But, apparently he knows what first downs are. I understand that he was pretty darn good at getting the first down on like 3rd and 7. That is what we need. We got other guys for YAC and TDs.
And at least our QB doesn't turn the ball over at a record pace.
You have no clue WTF you are talking about.
Weeden has 14 TDs last year to 17 Ints.
Tannehill had 12 TDs to 13 ints. Not an appreciable difference.
(4 of BW3s ints were in his very first game, absent that, he is on the plus side)
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Doo doo brown!
What color is the football the NFL plays with. Last time I looked, it ain't aqua.
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Zombo said:
Benjamin
You might want to check and see which school he played ball in.
You might want to check and see which school he played ball in.
Miami U. Same as Kosar. What has that got to do with the price of a blow job in Mexico?
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