I'm Starting to Not Care About the Browns Anymore
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I can understand people losing interest. Teams can't go decades of losing and expect fans to be diehard...especially the younger ones who don't have a championship or two lingering in their memory from when they were young.
I agree. I'm 40, and the last good memories about the Browns were in the 80s! I have a 10 year old son, who has a ton of friends that are Steelers fans! Luckily I've been able to sell him on the history, and the tradition of the team, otherwise he may actually be cheering for that team from Western PA! Then again........not in my house!
At any rate other than 2007 when they went 10-6, he has absolutely NO memories of the Browns being good! Somehow, this cycle of losing needs to end! I do like this front office, and coaching staff, but they have their work cut out for them in changing the culture of losing that has been with this team since they've returned in 1999!I agree. I'm 40, and the last good memories about the Browns were in the 80s! I have a 10 year old son, who has a ton of friends that are Steelers fans! Luckily I've been able to sell him on the history, and the tradition of the team, otherwise he may actually be cheering for that team from Western PA! Then again........not in my house!
At any rate other than 2007 when they went 10-6, he has absolutely NO memories of the Browns being good! Somehow, this cycle of losing needs to end! I do like this front office, and coaching staff, but they have their work cut out for them in changing the culture of losing that has been with this team since they've returned in 1999!I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
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I agree. I'm 40, and the last good memories about the Browns were in the 80s! I have a 10 year old son, who has a ton of friends that are Steelers fans! Luckily I've been able to sell him on the history, and the tradition of the team, otherwise he may actually be cheering for that team from Western PA! Then again........not in my house!
At any rate other than 2007 when they went 10-6, he has absolutely NO memories of the Browns being good! Somehow, this cycle of losing needs to end! I do like this front office, and coaching staff, but they have their work cut out for them in changing the culture of losing that has been with this team since they've returned in 1999!I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
Yup... Agree, Shep... hard to hang in there... doubt I can last more than another 40 years...
Mostly cause I'd be 100...
....that old chunky woman isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
You're a "chunky old woman", too???
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Not sure how you read it that way? Oh well.
But, I suppose....for the record, I have been a Lesbian all my life.
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I agreed with Jim Browm that Trich is just that...ordinary...And i caught flack for it...but..I still say Trich dances too much...we'll be drafting a RB next year too...
he ran well in the Browns first possession. He finished the game with 47 yards. 27 of those were picked up on the Browns first drive. his dancing with the stars routine drove me almost homicidal. im not sold on him. i'd like to see more pitchouts and screens. he has the speed to turn the corner. to his credit, he is a getting a lot of blowback from the Browns horrible receiving corp
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Oh, I disagree: Trent will be a good back. Like Bernard Pierce or whoever the hell Luck or Manning hand off to. He's here now and the fact that it took a #3 overall is just an annoyance from a past regime. I think he'll be a valuable back for the next three years. He needs to cut and go and we need to throw to him more, set up screens.
But I don't think he outright sucks or anything. He just isn't Adrian Peterson or Jim Brown or something.
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Oh, I disagree: Trent will be a good back. Like Bernard Pierce or whoever the hell Luck or Manning hand off to. He's here now and the fact that it took a #3 overall is just an annoyance from a past regime. I think he'll be a valuable back for the next three years. He needs to cut and go and we need to throw to him more, set up screens.
But I don't think he outright sucks or anything. He just isn't Adrian Peterson or Jim Brown or something.
Oh, I disagree: Trent will be a good back. Like Bernard Pierce or whoever the hell Luck or Manning hand off to. He's here now and the fact that it took a #3 overall is just an annoyance from a past regime. I think he'll be a valuable back for the next three years. He needs to cut and go and we need to throw to him more, set up screens.
But I don't think he outright sucks or anything. He just isn't Adrian Peterson or Jim Brown or something.
I stick to My belief that Trich is nothing more than a 3rd down back...kind of like Reggie Bush...
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I agree. I'm 40, and the last good memories about the Browns were in the 80s! I have a 10 year old son, who has a ton of friends that are Steelers fans! Luckily I've been able to sell him on the history, and the tradition of the team, otherwise he may actually be cheering for that team from Western PA! Then again........not in my house!
At any rate other than 2007 when they went 10-6, he has absolutely NO memories of the Browns being good! Somehow, this cycle of losing needs to end! I do like this front office, and coaching staff, but they have their work cut out for them in changing the culture of losing that has been with this team since they've returned in 1999!I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
Great post! I'm a bit old school in the fact that I am a homer. For me, the Browns were a big part of growing up. During football season if there was a social event like a party, holiday, or family get together of any sort, one thing was guaranteed... the Browns game was on, and we were all watching. Then there were my parents and their friends who would throw Browns-Steelers parties, and playoff parties in the 80s! I know that despite the sucktitude of this team since it's return, and the fact a lot of folks jumped ship, and hopped on the Steelers bandwagon, the Browns still have a rather large fanbase around the world. When the Browns were leaving there was no way in HELL I was going to start rooting for the Steelers just because the Browns left. And I would have sworn off the NFL, before I'd EVER root for them! But I digress......So like you, I walk down memory lane, look back to the 80s (even though those years were near misses) and yearn for that type of excitement to return! The electricity in this town back then was like none other! I also appreciate the great tradition and legacy that is the Cleveland Browns, and those teams of the past that my father, and grandfathers rooted for! I as a father of a 10 year old am passing that torch to my son as well! With each new season there is new hope, and new optimism.
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Ballpeen you make a great point that I think some of you older guys can't grasp that well. I was born in 1989 (basically 1990). I really have no memories of the Browns until they came back in '99. My first real memory of the browns is the season we went to the playoffs in 2002. My dad is a really passive aggressive person but I've never to this day seen a man so enthralled at a Browns football. Other than that and somewhat in '07, people in my age group have succumb to nothing but awful, losing seasons. I get a lot of light-hearted banter of 'why would you even be a Browns fan?' and the like. What I can say for certain is two things.
One, I'll never stop being a Browns fan and will continue to follow them well enough. I'll always be akin to guys they pick up in FA and the draft and watch as many games as possible. The second truthfully is as each lousy season goes on, I've become more disenfranchised with the NFL as a whole. I really don't care to see the Ravens, Bengals and Steelers have great years while the Browns hit the cellar. There was a time 5-6 years ago where I'd be glued to the T.V. on Sundays from 1-9. Sure, if it's a great game (like 49ers v GB last week) I'll hang around. But the Browns being so bad there's no reason to see how other teams are doing. I used to be obsessed with fantasy football. I still play mind you, but I really only do the minimum to keep the team up.
I could be wrong, but I think that's what is happening to my generation of Browns fan. It's not that we're necessarily losing fandom to the team, just the whole NFL.
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I agreed with Jim Browm that Trich is just that...ordinary...And i caught flack for it...but..I still say Trich dances too much...we'll be drafting a RB next year too...
he ran well in the Browns first possession. He finished the game with 47 yards. 27 of those were picked up on the Browns first drive. his dancing with the stars routine drove me almost homicidal. im not sold on him. i'd like to see more pitchouts and screens. he has the speed to turn the corner. to his credit, he is a getting a lot of blowback from the Browns horrible receiving corp
he ran well in the Browns first possession. He finished the game with 47 yards. 27 of those were picked up on the Browns first drive. his dancing with the stars routine drove me almost homicidal. im not sold on him. i'd like to see more pitchouts and screens. he has the speed to turn the corner. to his credit, he is a getting a lot of blowback from the Browns horrible receiving corp
yeah the lack of pitch outs and screens are baffelling because continuing to send him up the middle or between guard and tackle seems like a sure way to get him killed...
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I agree. I'm 40, and the last good memories about the Browns were in the 80s! I have a 10 year old son, who has a ton of friends that are Steelers fans! Luckily I've been able to sell him on the history, and the tradition of the team, otherwise he may actually be cheering for that team from Western PA! Then again........not in my house!
At any rate other than 2007 when they went 10-6, he has absolutely NO memories of the Browns being good! Somehow, this cycle of losing needs to end! I do like this front office, and coaching staff, but they have their work cut out for them in changing the culture of losing that has been with this team since they've returned in 1999!I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
I guess I am a bit lucky in this regard: I believe that most people develop their fandom or association/identity with their team during their teen years, or say from like age 10 to age 20. For me, this is how the Browns performed from when I first started following them at age 10 or 11 until I was 20:
1963: 10-4
1964: 10-3-1 *
1965: 11-3 *
1966: 9-5
1967: 9-5 *
1968: 10-4 *
1969: 10-3-1 *
1970: 7-7
1971: 9-5 *
1972: 10-4 *
So, to me, that is the basis of my Browns memories and traditions, and it is that type of winning team that I still envision the Browns to be.....and NOT the team the Browns have been in my 50s and 60s...that constantly loses.
And I do feel sorry for the young fans of today....who say turned 10 years old in like 1999.
During my youth, I knew the Browns as nothing but winners. These youths know them as nothing but losers.
And that is sad, because having known quality when I was young I know that this team under the right circumstances can hope to be outstanding again. I don't know if young people now can ever believe that the Browns could actually be an outstanding winning organization.
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I must say Gipper with all the bullshit on this board. You are without a doubt the only one that I would love to meet. You make more sense and understand more than anyone else ON THIS BOARD!!!!!
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Once a Browns fan, always a Browns fan
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I must say Gipper with all the bullshit on this board. You are without a doubt the only one that I would love to meet. You make more sense and understand more than anyone else ON THIS BOARD!!!!!
I must say Gipper with all the bullshit on this board. You are without a doubt the only one that I would love to meet. You make more sense and understand more than anyone else ON THIS BOARD!!!!!
Get a room
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I must say Gipper with all the bullshit on this board. You are without a doubt the only one that I would love to meet. You make more sense and understand more than anyone else ON THIS BOARD!!!!!
Get a room
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I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
I guess I am a bit lucky in this regard: I believe that most people develop their fandom or association/identity with their team during their teen years, or say from like age 10 to age 20. For me, this is how the Browns performed from when I first started following them at age 10 or 11 until I was 20:
1963: 10-4
1964: 10-3-1 *
1965: 11-3 *
1966: 9-5
1967: 9-5 *
1968: 10-4 *
1969: 10-3-1 *
1970: 7-7
1971: 9-5 *
1972: 10-4 *
So, to me, that is the basis of my Browns memories and traditions, and it is that type of winning team that I still envision the Browns to be.....and NOT the team the Browns have been in my 50s and 60s...that constantly loses.
And I do feel sorry for the young fans of today....who say turned 10 years old in like 1999.
During my youth, I knew the Browns as nothing but winners. These youths know them as nothing but losers.
And that is sad, because having known quality when I was young I know that this team under the right circumstances can hope to be outstanding again. I don't know if young people now can ever believe that the Browns could actually be an outstanding winning organization.
I guess I am a bit lucky in this regard: I believe that most people develop their fandom or association/identity with their team during their teen years, or say from like age 10 to age 20. For me, this is how the Browns performed from when I first started following them at age 10 or 11 until I was 20:
1963: 10-4
1964: 10-3-1 *
1965: 11-3 *
1966: 9-5
1967: 9-5 *
1968: 10-4 *
1969: 10-3-1 *
1970: 7-7
1971: 9-5 *
1972: 10-4 *
So, to me, that is the basis of my Browns memories and traditions, and it is that type of winning team that I still envision the Browns to be.....and NOT the team the Browns have been in my 50s and 60s...that constantly loses.
And I do feel sorry for the young fans of today....who say turned 10 years old in like 1999.
During my youth, I knew the Browns as nothing but winners. These youths know them as nothing but losers.
And that is sad, because having known quality when I was young I know that this team under the right circumstances can hope to be outstanding again. I don't know if young people now can ever believe that the Browns could actually be an outstanding winning organization.
That was the point I was making. I was basically the same time, maybe a little earlier. It's why I said I can understand people 40 and under being a bit cool towards the team.
I get it. It's why we have to turn this around....the fans today don't even know how to root....at times it's almost like they start getting lound when we have the ball. Hell, when we have the ball the guy in the last row shoulkd be able to hear the QB signal call. Save your voice for when they have the ball or we make a nice gain.
It always pains me when some guy gets up to face the crowd, waving his arms yelling "Lets Go!", when we have the ball.
Dude.....be quite.....yell when they have the ball.
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man once you choose a team, you can't just go changing because they aren't winning. that goes against every moral fiber that is/was supposed to be instilled in us as privileged US citizens by our parents and the generations that help build this country with their blood, sweat and tears. you root for the under-dog. help out others that are down and out. rally together when all things seem lost.
i mean if you jump ship fine, just remember you are getting on a bandwagon full of morally displaced human beings. people that don't care if they step over an old lady to grab a buck or a trophy and call it their own.
but by all means feel free to use your constitutional rights to be another poser.
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man once you choose a team, you can't just go changing because they aren't winning. that goes against every moral fiber that is/was supposed to be instilled in us as privileged US citizens by our parents and the generations that help build this country with their blood, sweat and tears. you root for the under-dog. help out others that are down and out. rally together when all things seem lost.
i mean if you jump ship fine, just remember you are getting on a bandwagon full of morally displaced human beings. people that don't care if they step over an old lady to grab a buck or a trophy and call it their own.
but by all means feel free to use your constitutional rights to be another poser.
man once you choose a team, you can't just go changing because they aren't winning. that goes against every moral fiber that is/was supposed to be instilled in us as privileged US citizens by our parents and the generations that help build this country with their blood, sweat and tears. you root for the under-dog. help out others that are down and out. rally together when all things seem lost.
i mean if you jump ship fine, just remember you are getting on a bandwagon full of morally displaced human beings. people that don't care if they step over an old lady to grab a buck or a trophy and call it their own.
but by all means feel free to use your constitutional rights to be another poser.
one of the greatest movie of all time IMO
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Great video to go with a speech. Sweet.
But overall... I agree. I can't imagine growing up a fan of a certain hometown team, building all that history with your dad and then your son... and then one day just saying, "Now I'm a Niners fan."
Is it tempting? Sure. Poof, I'm a Niners fan. Hey, they're even in California! Driving distance!
It just isn't real. It's like being a Packers fan because, well... you just are. You chose them. I had a friend in Kansas City who just woke up one day and became a Packers fans. Started going to their games and then the camps and all that. Has a lot of hats and jerseys and photos and shit, but somehow it isn't the same.
Lots of L.A. kids just pick a team since we don't have one. It's weird.
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I am going to use you as a prime example.....40 isn't old, but it isn't young either. If life was a football game, you are at halftime.
So 40 years is 1973 when you were born...our record since, according to my figures is 240 wins v 330 losses. Twenty seasons ago, which is more than 20 years ago since we lost 4 seasons, our record was 131 wins v 135 losses.....I didn't count the tie games, where there were several. The point is we were at least competitive. In the last 20 seasons, which also includes the "lost years", our record is 109 win v 195 losses....hardly competitive.
As I see it, people 40 and under are trying to root for one of the worst teams in football. The Browns have sucked for a long time. I can try to be all Rah-Rah, but the fact is the team I grew up on....I am not going back to prove my point on the wins part, but the Browns won as many as anybody. Someone else can look up the numbers if they don't believe me.....so those were the Browns I knew and why I am still a fan.....but if I was a 30 something today and not a 60 something, I would be right there, wondering why I even waste the time.
I, and some others of us do it because we like to walk down memory lane, just as you youngers will at some point.....trust me, you will....but I am not so foggy in the brain to question why you have questions about rooting for a crappy team that has lost about twice as many as thay have won in your lifetime.
I won't do it. I'd be there with you.......but my experience won't allow that....another old man point of wisdom you can take or shrug off.....as you get older, you like to cling to past memories.....you will too...and the Browns are one of mine.....it's why old people stay married....that old chunky woman in bed next to me isn't the woman I married. Just like I....well, I am the same....what did I say about clinging to old memories....
I guess I am a bit lucky in this regard: I believe that most people develop their fandom or association/identity with their team during their teen years, or say from like age 10 to age 20. For me, this is how the Browns performed from when I first started following them at age 10 or 11 until I was 20:
1963: 10-4
1964: 10-3-1 *
1965: 11-3 *
1966: 9-5
1967: 9-5 *
1968: 10-4 *
1969: 10-3-1 *
1970: 7-7
1971: 9-5 *
1972: 10-4 *
So, to me, that is the basis of my Browns memories and traditions, and it is that type of winning team that I still envision the Browns to be.....and NOT the team the Browns have been in my 50s and 60s...that constantly loses.
And I do feel sorry for the young fans of today....who say turned 10 years old in like 1999.
During my youth, I knew the Browns as nothing but winners. These youths know them as nothing but losers.
And that is sad, because having known quality when I was young I know that this team under the right circumstances can hope to be outstanding again. I don't know if young people now can ever believe that the Browns could actually be an outstanding winning organization.
I guess I am a bit lucky in this regard: I believe that most people develop their fandom or association/identity with their team during their teen years, or say from like age 10 to age 20. For me, this is how the Browns performed from when I first started following them at age 10 or 11 until I was 20:
1963: 10-4
1964: 10-3-1 *
1965: 11-3 *
1966: 9-5
1967: 9-5 *
1968: 10-4 *
1969: 10-3-1 *
1970: 7-7
1971: 9-5 *
1972: 10-4 *
So, to me, that is the basis of my Browns memories and traditions, and it is that type of winning team that I still envision the Browns to be.....and NOT the team the Browns have been in my 50s and 60s...that constantly loses.
And I do feel sorry for the young fans of today....who say turned 10 years old in like 1999.
During my youth, I knew the Browns as nothing but winners. These youths know them as nothing but losers.
And that is sad, because having known quality when I was young I know that this team under the right circumstances can hope to be outstanding again. I don't know if young people now can ever believe that the Browns could actually be an outstanding winning organization.
Which is why they perpetually lose. All the players are young people
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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