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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Yup... you always have to be looking for your next QB...

    As for Manziel I hope they saw what I saw... McCarron.... and more Mathews boys...

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    jbluhm86J jbluhm86 wrote on last edited by
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    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... you always have to be looking for your next QB...

    As for Manziel I hope they saw what I saw... McCarron.... and more Mathews boys...

    If I was the Browns GM, I'd pick Mccarron over Manziel or Bridgewater. He comes from a winning program that plays in the toughest division in CFB and excels in high pressure games, he is well versed in an NFL-level offense, has great presence in the pocket, and is a highly accurate thrower.

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      Browns Scouts Spotted at Texas A&M Game

      Looks like we're already looking past Weeden

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      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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      @adoug319 said:

      Looks like we're already looking past Weeden

      I hope they were scouting Alabama- Manziel is a punk.

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        Browns Scouts Spotted at Texas A&M Game

        Looks like we're already looking past Weeden

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        @adoug319 said:

        Looks like we're already looking past Weeden

        You act like Alabama and Texas A&M don't have other players on the field that teams will be scouting all season long.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          @tour2ma said:

          Yup... you always have to be looking for your next QB...

          As for Manziel I hope they saw what I saw... McCarron.... and more Mathews boys...

          If I was the Browns GM, I'd pick Mccarron over Manziel or Bridgewater. He comes from a winning program that plays in the toughest division in CFB and excels in high pressure games, he is well versed in an NFL-level offense, has great presence in the pocket, and is a highly accurate thrower.

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          ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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          @jbluhm86 said:

          If I was the Browns GM, I'd pick Mccarron over Manziel or Bridgewater. He comes from a winning program that plays in the toughest division in CFB and excels in high pressure games, he is well versed in an NFL-level offense, has great presence in the pocket, and is a highly accurate thrower.

          I agree. I like him as well.

          If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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            BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by BrownsKidd
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            And if we want him, I can' imagine that having a 500 season puts us in a position to get him unless we trade up.

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              @adoug319 said:

              Looks like we're already looking past Weeden

              You act like Alabama and Texas A&M don't have other players on the field that teams will be scouting all season long.

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              @ballpeen said:

              You act like Alabama and Texas A&M don't have other players on the field that teams will be scouting all season long.

              They were there specifically for manziel

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                RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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                This Saturday was the first time that I had watched Johnny Manziel play and the first time in a long time that I was rooting for Alabama to win a football game. I really wanted to see Alabama pound this punk into the ground. Well I have done a 180 on this kid. I knew about his mobility but I had no idea his arm was that good. I am really looking forward to seeing more of him.

                On another note holy crap that Mike Evans is a beast. He catches the ball like Moses Malone grabbing a rebound.

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                  LOL.... most everyone else is heading the other way on Johnny.

                  True on Evans at the college level, but his speed and agility look questionable and he'll need more than jumping ability at the next level.

                  The days of R.C. Owens are way behind us.

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                    marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                    Peter King reported that on Saturday the assistant GM for the Browns was at Texas A&M scouting Johnny Manziel. Now while he may be good at A&M I don't think Manziel is the only one we should be looking at. His counterpart also played a masterpiece of a game. A.J. McCarron is in a more pro ready system at Alabama. He's shown up in a lot of big games to include a BCS title game. He does not have the Heisman allure that Johnny Football has but; he looks like a winner to me. Thoughts?

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                      cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                      yea cleveland and every other team in the league. Non Issue

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                        marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                        LOL I just posted a similar thread. My bad guys.

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                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          Lets draft another Qb so he can get pounded into the ground and have a short career (Couch).

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                            Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                            I would be totally against a Manziel draft pick. I think he's a punk who is going to turn into Ryan Leaf in the pros. The dude can't get through an offseason in college without getting in trouble. What's going to happen when a team puts $50 million in his pocket and turns him loose.

                            McCarron would be interesting. I'm still more in favor of Boyd from Clemson if we're talking QB's.

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                              Peter King reported that on Saturday the assistant GM for the Browns was at Texas A&M scouting Johnny Manziel. Now while he may be good at A&M I don't think Manziel is the only one we should be looking at. His counterpart also played a masterpiece of a game. A.J. McCarron is in a more pro ready system at Alabama. He's shown up in a lot of big games to include a BCS title game. He does not have the Heisman allure that Johnny Football has but; he looks like a winner to me. Thoughts?

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                              Not seeing Leaf... more of the next Flutie, but with an attitude... or Tarkenton, if you go back that far.

                              @marcus said:

                              Peter King reported that on Saturday the assistant GM for the Browns was at Texas A&M scouting Johnny Manziel. Now while he may be good at A&M I don't think Manziel is the only one we should be looking at. His counterpart also played a masterpiece of a game. A.J. McCarron is in a more pro ready system at Alabama. He's shown up in a lot of big games to include a BCS title game. He does not have the Heisman allure that Johnny Football has but; he looks like a winner to me. Thoughts?

                              Pretty much wrote the same thing in the other "scouting Manziel" thread...

                              Plus it's not too early to start scouting the Mathews boys...

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                                Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
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                                I want nothing to do with either of those guys with our first pick. My top 3 as of now...

                                1.Teddy Twatwater - Louisville

                                2. Brett Hundley - UCLA

                                3. Tahj Boyd - Clemson

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                                  Not seeing Leaf... more of the next Flutie, but with an attitude... or Tarkenton, if you go back that far.

                                  @marcus said:

                                  Peter King reported that on Saturday the assistant GM for the Browns was at Texas A&M scouting Johnny Manziel. Now while he may be good at A&M I don't think Manziel is the only one we should be looking at. His counterpart also played a masterpiece of a game. A.J. McCarron is in a more pro ready system at Alabama. He's shown up in a lot of big games to include a BCS title game. He does not have the Heisman allure that Johnny Football has but; he looks like a winner to me. Thoughts?

                                  Pretty much wrote the same thing in the other "scouting Manziel" thread...

                                  Plus it's not too early to start scouting the Mathews boys...

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                                  marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                                  @tour2ma said:

                                  Not seeing Leaf... more of the next Flutie, but with an attitude... or Tarkenton, if you go back that far.

                                  Pretty much wrote the same thing in the other "scouting Manziel" thread...

                                  Plus it's not too early to start scouting the Mathews boys...

                                  Unfamiliar with the Mathews Boys. Could you fill me in? I saw the other thread after I posted this one. My bad. Point is IMO McCarron is the better pick out of the two. More Pro Ready and not a single character issue yet. Taj Boyd is another interesting pick but I'd take Alabama's competition and system as what gives McCarron a slight edge. Not really sold on Bridgewater either. While he may wind up being good. I'd much rather pull someone from a more competitive conference.

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                                    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                    Agree with you and it's not the first duplicate post ever made here...

                                    The Mathews boys (there are two at A&M right now) are more branches of the Clay, Sr., Clay Jr. (our Mathews of yesteryear) and Bruce (the HOF great from the Oilers/ Titans) NFL Family tree. They started a graphic in Saturday's broadcast, but had to cut away from it before it showed the full lineage.

                                    Bruce was perhaps the best O-lineman I have ever seen play due to being all-pro at two (or maybe three???) positions. I think there are both Bruce's kids:

                                    75 Jake Matthews OL 6-5 305 Sr. 3L Missouri City, Texas (Elkins)

                                    56 Mike Matthews OL 6-2 285 So. 1L Missouri City, Texas (Elkins)

                                    Missouri City is SW of Houston. Elkins HS is a perenial powerhouse...

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                                    • Tour2maT Tour2ma

                                      Not seeing Leaf... more of the next Flutie, but with an attitude... or Tarkenton, if you go back that far.

                                      @marcus said:

                                      Peter King reported that on Saturday the assistant GM for the Browns was at Texas A&M scouting Johnny Manziel. Now while he may be good at A&M I don't think Manziel is the only one we should be looking at. His counterpart also played a masterpiece of a game. A.J. McCarron is in a more pro ready system at Alabama. He's shown up in a lot of big games to include a BCS title game. He does not have the Heisman allure that Johnny Football has but; he looks like a winner to me. Thoughts?

                                      Pretty much wrote the same thing in the other "scouting Manziel" thread...

                                      Plus it's not too early to start scouting the Mathews boys...

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                                      Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tour2ma said:

                                      Not seeing Leaf... more of the next Flutie, but with an attitude... or Tarkenton, if you go back that far.

                                      Pretty much wrote the same thing in the other "scouting Manziel" thread...

                                      Plus it's not too early to start scouting the Mathews boys...

                                      I'm comparing Manziel to Leaf because he's already got all the questionable character issues, just like Leaf had at Washington State.

                                      I think he's a punk with a very questionable attitude. Putting $50 million in his pocket isn't going to help that. He also just looks to be small.

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                                        marcusM marcus wrote on last edited by
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                                        Oh those Matthews. I wasn't thinking you were referring to them. Well why not? But one of these QB need to be picked up next season.

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                                          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                          Gotcha, Mark... Money my be a non-factor though as his family is well off.

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