TRICH traded to colts
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People way back when thought the Cowboys were stupid for trading a guy named Hershel Walker.... now they got a bucket full of picks for him...but how did that work out in the long run?
I was around for that and no one that I remember thought that. Everyone that I recall thought it was crazy what they got for a RB who was already starting to age. Besides, this is all irrelevant since it is not even close to comparable. The Cowboys made out huge because they got a ton of great picks and used them well. The Browns got ONE mid- to late-first round pick for Richardson. Now, MAYBE that player will be the greatest player ever to play football. But, with the Browns picking, there's about the same chance that the same thing could happen with a late round pick or an undrafted FA. I'd have rather seen the Browns get multiple picks later than to see them get one first rounder that they may waste.
I was around for that and no one that I remember thought that. Everyone that I recall thought it was crazy what they got for a RB who was already starting to age. Besides, this is all irrelevant since it is not even close to comparable. The Cowboys made out huge because they got a ton of great picks and used them well. The Browns got ONE mid- to late-first round pick for Richardson. Now, MAYBE that player will be the greatest player ever to play football. But, with the Browns picking, there's about the same chance that the same thing could happen with a late round pick or an undrafted FA. I'd have rather seen the Browns get multiple picks later than to see them get one first rounder that they may waste.
Every draft pick may be a waste...based on production vs. draft position, Trent Richardson was a waste. We got something back for someone who wasn't doing a whole hell of a lot, especially this season to win games. 8 points per game wth him so far. How much worse can it really get?
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Lots of great qbs and running backs can overcome an average line. An o-line can not block eight or nine guys. A good qb would put a stop to so many guys rushing by connecting on a god damned pass once in a while.
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You do realize the guys who picked Weeden and Richardson are fired right?
You do realize the guys who picked Weeden and Richardson are fired right?
I do. I also realize that another draft and Free Agent period have passed and we still don't have a WR. Did the new guys do something in this year's draft that I should find amazing? Mingo looks decent but, as others have said in this forum about Richardson, I doubt he's going to take us to the playoffs anytime soon.
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Somebody please explain to me what this pack of incompetent fuck tards has done so far that leaves you all so confident
that they'll actually draft the the right guy??? NEXT FUCKING SPRING!
Let's start with owner is a crook!!!
The stellar job they did in the coaching search?you remember the one where Chip Kelly made 'em look like bumbling idiots
Was it the swell job they did on the last draft?where we got uh?? wait... uh ??? oh yeah a 200 lb DE.
The game changing free agent class??? where they filled the 1 or 2 positions of need ??like CB?? Kicker??
Or maybe it was training camp??Look how well that turned out...traded a guy we were gonna cut for a starting RG...oh...wait ...no that didn't happen...brought in a house full of RBs...none of which actually made the team...Then cut all the fucking kickers!!!
Yea...I can't see how this could possibly turn out bad for the Browns
Look I really don't give a shit about TR(way over rated) but this draft is going to come down to probably 2 hot name QB's and Clowney...And no matter how you spin it we'll be right back to being 2 to 3 yrs at best away from being relevant in the NFL.
I wasn't crazy about the Mingo pick, but from what I've seen so far I thing he is going to be worth it.
A RB in the top 5 or 10 better damn well be a Jim Brown/Barry Sanders/etc. caliber RB - Trent is good, but he's not shown those qualities to me (as of this point, and I do like him).
Chip Kelly was just maneuvering to get the job he wanted, he never had any interest in the Browns.
FA - we picked up what looks to be two pretty good FA's to me - don't want to go overboard in this area IMO.
Bess was a good pick up as well (not really FA).
We've had a $*** load of injuries, we're playing freaking Cousins (a lousy OT) as our OG, I'm looking at this improving this year with the return of injured players.
The consensus is that the 2013 (this year's) Draft was exceptional weak.
We're loaded for Bear (10 picks currently) for next years Draft which is supposed to be a very rich Draft.
This Regime may end up sucking, but so far I'm seeing them willing to shake things up and make an effort at improving this Team.
Unfortunately this is going to take a little time, but their actions seems to suggest that they are speeding up that process.
When some of our previous Starters and Backups can't even make the Back positions on other Team, that's telling me something is seriously wrong here.
I commend the fact that at least this FO "Kicked the Tires" so to speak of the players we currently have, and are in the process of keeping the good and cutting the bad (we didn't know we had).
I wasn't crazy about the Mingo pick, but from what I've seen so far I thing he is going to be worth it.
A RB in the top 5 or 10 better damn well be a Jim Brown/Barry Sanders/etc. caliber RB - Trent is good, but he's not shown those qualities to me (as of this point, and I do like him).
Chip Kelly was just maneuvering to get the job he wanted, he never had any interest in the Browns.
FA - we picked up what looks to be two pretty good FA's to me - don't want to go overboard in this area IMO.
Bess was a good pick up as well (not really FA).
We've had a $*** load of injuries, we're playing freaking Cousins (a lousy OT) as our OG, I'm looking at this improving this year with the return of injured players.
The consensus is that the 2013 (this year's) Draft was exceptional weak.
We're loaded for Bear (10 picks currently) for next years Draft which is supposed to be a very rich Draft.
This Regime may end up sucking, but so far I'm seeing them willing to shake things up and make an effort at improving this Team.
Unfortunately this is going to take a little time, but their actions seems to suggest that they are speeding up that process.
When some of our previous Starters and Backups can't even make the Back positions on other Team, that's telling me something is seriously wrong here.
I commend the fact that at least this FO "Kicked the Tires" so to speak of the players we currently have, and are in the process of keeping the good and cutting the bad (we didn't know we had).
Yep! We are seeing sweeping change & given past Browns' history & lack of results, I welcome it.
Mike
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I am physically ill thinking about this trade. Not because I believed Trent to be a world beater All-Star caliber talent, but because we ended up losing out overall on value.
We traded up to get him at 3, and we're likely to revive a pick between 16-25 for him in return. I love having two first round picks, but we could have easily gotten a later round pick as well for Richardson.
We're gearing up for a big roster overhaul, I believe.
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Seriously, could someone who is excited about getting the first round pick please explain to my why they think that first round pick will work out? You're assuming we'll get someone better than Richardson. I'm afraid we'll get someone worse than a 30-year old QB who still can't play.
Seriously, could someone who is excited about getting the first round pick please explain to my why they think that first round pick will work out? You're assuming we'll get someone better than Richardson. I'm afraid we'll get someone worse than a 30-year old QB who still can't play.
A top 5 - 10 RB should be like Jim Brown or Barry Sanders, or of that elite quality in this day and age, they're just rare an good RB's are (somewhat) common.
Trent is solid, but with his injury history, injury likeness, and what he can do with our Team, it just wasn't a good fit - nothing against Trent.
Depending on how we finish out the Season, we may or may not need extra Draft picks to move up to get the QB we want.
If we don't need to move up, then we can pick up another high Draft value player (this would be a double win) in the 1st round.
Honestly, I'm not extremely worried about getting a good RB (elite's another story, but they're rare), I think that is quite feasible.
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They are tanking intentionally to try for Manziel? With our luck it will be a race between us and the stillers for the number 1 draft pick. You know who wins the last game and picks number 2. And I'm certain that trading the number 3 pick for about a 20 will result a player that is like a mad dog in a meat market...lol...Go Browns!
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People way back when thought the Cowboys were stupid for trading a guy named Hershel Walker.... now they got a bucket full of picks for him...but how did that work out in the long run?
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End result = multiple Superbowls.
Had the Browns gotten a "bucketful of picks", I'd be celebrating along with you. They did not. They got one mid- to late-first round pick.
And now you guys are excited because they might get a QB with it? They had a chance to do that two years ago, and they took Weeden. I realize these aren't the same FO guys, but my point is that just having first round picks does not guarantee quality picks.
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The Cowboys got a bunch of picks for Walker. We got one. But what I really don't get is why the hell when they have a full off season to blow it up, they wait until the 3rd week of the season. The true genius of Banner, lombardi is showing? But what do I know?
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You do realize the guys who picked Weeden and Richardson are fired right?
I do. I also realize that another draft and Free Agent period have passed and we still don't have a WR. Did the new guys do something in this year's draft that I should find amazing? Mingo looks decent but, as others have said in this forum about Richardson, I doubt he's going to take us to the playoffs anytime soon.
I do. I also realize that another draft and Free Agent period have passed and we still don't have a WR. Did the new guys do something in this year's draft that I should find amazing? Mingo looks decent but, as others have said in this forum about Richardson, I doubt he's going to take us to the playoffs anytime soon.
Gordon has the potential to be elite.
He makes catching look like childs play.
If he gets his head straight and puts in the effort he will be a phenomenal WR.
Bess is also very good, but he doesn't have the size/speed to be an elite WR.
The pieces are starting to come together, it just takes time.
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I'll always be the smoke in the room, alas Richardson, ye left us too soon.
I really saw potential in this Group. They wouldn't even allow one game with Richardson and Gordon on the field together, with Cameron in the middle and Bess working the perimeter. Huh, such is life in Brownstown. Truly sad day for Browns Fans. Hosed again.
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I'll always be the smoke in the room, alas Richardson, ye left us too soon.
I really saw potential in this Group. They wouldn't even allow one game with Richardson and Gordon on the field together, with Cameron in the middle and Bess working the perimeter. Huh, such is life in Brownstown. Truly sad day for Browns Fans. Hosed again.
I'll always be the smoke in the room, alas Richardson, ye left us too soon.
I really saw potential in this Group. They wouldn't even allow one game with Richardson and Gordon on the field together, with Cameron in the middle and Bess working the perimeter. Huh, such is life in Brownstown. Truly sad day for Browns Fans. Hosed again.
You literally just said you miss Randy Lerner. All credibility = lost. Randy Lerner is a soccer loving douche.
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You put out your best players on the field each week. You try to win each game. How is our best offensive player running for Indy helping us win on Sunday? It's not. This is called being fleeced, point blank, nothing you can do about it, period. It's also pretty fucked up.
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haha, I miss lerner too. this is collection of baffons and crooks, cutthroats and backstabbers.
I was gonna bonfire everything until I thought of my Bernie Kosar plaque and remembered it's not all bad. I was looking forward to watching Richardson for many years and Haslam better rescind this trade or he can count me and mine OUT>
haha, I miss lerner too. this is collection of baffons and crooks, cutthroats and backstabbers.
I was looking forward to watching Richardson for many years and Haslam better rescind this trade or he can count me and mine OUT>
I'm just going to copy and paste this every time you post anything here.
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I'll always be the smoke in the room, alas Richardson, ye left us too soon.
I really saw potential in this Group. They wouldn't even allow one game with Richardson and Gordon on the field together, with Cameron in the middle and Bess working the perimeter. Huh, such is life in Brownstown. Truly sad day for Browns Fans. Hosed again.
You literally just said you miss Randy Lerner. All credibility = lost. Randy Lerner is a soccer loving douche.
You literally just said you miss Randy Lerner. All credibility = lost. Randy Lerner is a soccer loving douche.
Yeah, but he has an excuse. He was doing it for his Dad he didn't want the team.
Haslam on the other hand, has some explaining to do.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
I am physically ill thinking about this trade. Not because I believed Trent to be a world beater All-Star caliber talent, but because we ended up losing out overall on value.
We traded up to get him at 3, and we're likely to revive a pick between 16-25 for him in return. I love having two first round picks, but we could have easily gotten a later round pick as well for Richardson.
We're gearing up for a big roster overhaul, I believe.
I am physically ill thinking about this trade. Not because I believed Trent to be a world beater All-Star caliber talent, but because we ended up losing out overall on value.
We traded up to get him at 3, and we're likely to revive a pick between 16-25 for him in return. I love having two first round picks, but we could have easily gotten a later round pick as well for Richardson.
We're gearing up for a big roster overhaul, I believe.
Different Regime.
The current FO can only correct the mistakes of past Regimes, they can't nullify them.
Simple fact is we paid too much for TR (good as he is), I seriously doubt anyone else would have paid what we did for him.
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