TRICH traded to colts
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dude, take a Xanax and chill before you stroke out
i already took mine and a valium. a nice cocktail along with a cocktail.
gonna get numb brothers.
i want to see these mother fuckers beg for the fan support and the 'come out to the game' crap. i knew banner was a rat. and chudzinski looks like a coon hound with a beer gut. all he needs is a straw had and a piece of straw in is mouth. huckleberry. lombardi is just another gooned up wop. haslam doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
can't we get some local blood in the FO or find some majority of biz owners buy haslam out (like the red sox owners did) cuz obviously none of these guys know what it means to be a browns fan and what we've been through to just come out and say "see ya next year!'.
and the circus never leaves cleveland. i can hear the merry go round from here in ny.
i already took mine and a valium. a nice cocktail along with a cocktail.
gonna get numb brothers.
i want to see these mother fuckers beg for the fan support and the 'come out to the game' crap. i knew banner was a rat. and chudzinski looks like a coon hound with a beer gut. all he needs is a straw had and a piece of straw in is mouth. huckleberry. lombardi is just another gooned up wop. haslam doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
can't we get some local blood in the FO or find some majority of biz owners buy haslam out (like the red sox owners did) cuz obviously none of these guys know what it means to be a browns fan and what we've been through to just come out and say "see ya next year!'.
and the circus never leaves cleveland. i can hear the merry go round from here in ny.
Got a nice buzz going on with a bottle of 10 year old port.
"Well, it's all going to be better now that we're doing the Drafting". Yeah, MoFos- SHOW ME.Plenty of booing gonna be going on come Bungle week.
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I am physically ill thinking about this trade. Not because I believed Trent to be a world beater All-Star caliber talent, but because we ended up losing out overall on value.
We traded up to get him at 3, and we're likely to revive a pick between 16-25 for him in return. I love having two first round picks, but we could have easily gotten a later round pick as well for Richardson.
We're gearing up for a big roster overhaul, I believe.
I am physically ill thinking about this trade. Not because I believed Trent to be a world beater All-Star caliber talent, but because we ended up losing out overall on value.
We traded up to get him at 3, and we're likely to revive a pick between 16-25 for him in return. I love having two first round picks, but we could have easily gotten a later round pick as well for Richardson.
We're gearing up for a big roster overhaul, I believe.
Not so much losing out on value- it's like- losing out on a season- on week #3.
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Different Regime.
The current FO can only correct the mistakes of past Regimes, they can't nullify them.
Simple fact is we paid too much for TR (good as he is), I seriously doubt anyone else would have paid what we did for him.
Ya we over paid for him, but why is that used as an excuse to get rid of him? The team is literally saying, here is a player that is worth a mid to late-ish round pick... and we are just going to trade him before week 3. All this move says is that they have given up on the season with 14 games left to play, that they don't give two shits about the fans. Make the damn excuse that you building towards your team goal, but try selling me that shit in the offseason, not two weeks into the regular season. This lay down and die bullshit. Whats even worse is they won't admit it. "Hey season ticket holders, thank for giving us all that money, hopefully these wiener dog races really pan out!"
Ya we over paid for him, but why is that used as an excuse to get rid of him? The team is literally saying, here is a player that is worth a mid to late-ish round pick... and we are just going to trade him before week 3. All this move says is that they have given up on the season with 14 games left to play, that they don't give two shits about the fans. Make the damn excuse that you building towards your team goal, but try selling me that shit in the offseason, not two weeks into the regular season. This lay down and die bullshit. Whats even worse is they won't admit it. "Hey season ticket holders, thank for giving us all that money, hopefully these wiener dog races really pan out!"
^+1- Can I get a refund on my tickets, now that you've thrown in the towel? This says they really don't give two shits about this year, and as you say about the season ticket holders. - it's wait until the 2015 season- we're going to be REALLY good. F- you. I've been waiting since 1999 for you to be "Really good."
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Happiest team in the NFL the Vikings playing against a team with a third string QB and No Runningback and you know the players are down.
Viking will crush the Browns
42-3
Happiest team in the NFL the Vikings playing against a team with a third string QB and No Runningback and you know the players are down.
Viking will crush the Browns
42-3
Right. And if we had Weeden and Trich it would make a big difference?
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If I may express my opinion as a Colts fan, I think it's a good trade for both teams. Let's face it, the Browns probably weren't going anywhere anyway, and this gives them more ammo in next years draft to get a true franchise QB. If the browns eek out a few wins and finish with the 3rd or 4th pick in the first round, this second 1st round pick can be thrown in to move up. If I were a browns fan, I wouldn't be too upset over this.
Actually, there are a bunch of colts fans who do not like this trade. I am not one of them. I think it will work out for both teams.
If I may express my opinion as a Colts fan, I think it's a good trade for both teams. Let's face it, the Browns probably weren't going anywhere anyway, and this gives them more ammo in next years draft to get a true franchise QB. If the browns eek out a few wins and finish with the 3rd or 4th pick in the first round, this second 1st round pick can be thrown in to move up. If I were a browns fan, I wouldn't be too upset over this.
Actually, there are a bunch of colts fans who do not like this trade. I am not one of them. I think it will work out for both teams.
The only thing this trade does is guarantee the Browns another top 10, probably top 5 pick- but don't worry we're used to it. OTOH Fox Sports was saying Luck just landed his Edgerrin James, and hate to tell you- he's not. Guy has no burst and breakaway gear & puts on his dancing shoes instead of trying to blast through a tiny hole. He's a very good receiver, high character guy.
But THIS year, the Browns now have absolutely nothing at RB.
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Can't you idiots see what we're doing here? We use our top 3 pick on our franchise QB then use the Colts pick on a top rated WR. Who can honestly sit here and tell me trading Mr. 3.5 for a top rated WR isnt a good decision. RBs are damn easy to replace. Especially a horrible one.
I was thinking we needed two 1st rounders for a new QB and WR and was thinking how we would go about acquiring it.
Well Banner just let us know how.
Great move.
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I have seen posts elsewhere where Browns fans are shocked and delighted that we actually got a 1st round pick for Trent.
I've also seen the total shock and despair from this trade.
All I can say, is that out of 17 games he's played for us, I've never seen him break a really long one from scrimmage.
Who's fault is that, OL or Trent ?
I'd say the OL, but I've seen other RB's in similar circumstances break that occasional long one.
Just something to think about.
I never really expected him to break a really long run. He's not really that sort of back, is he?
I just saw Banner on television. He says he completely understands the criticism and skepticism for now. His hope is that it will eventually be proven wrong. I respect and appreciate that he made the statement, but my feeling is that you don't make that statement if you think everyone is on-board with it. So, there is an official acknowledgement that the trade may not look that great from the Browns end.
The idea, then, is "I realize that this looks a little shaky, but just trust me on this, I have an idea." Which is fine, except that I get tired of hearing it year after year. At some point, I'd like people to stop having new ideas and start finding ways to make the team work without starting over from scratch AGAIN (and then failing, AGAIN). I kind of feel like it's a maneuver to buy time instead of prioritizing the improvement of the team. "If I claim that NOTHING was right when I got here, then I can scrap at least one season and claim its not my fault." Instead, I'd like for once for someone to come in and say, "Okay, a lot of this is junk BUT, there's this and that and this... that I think I can work with if I add a few things."
I never really expected him to break a really long run. He's not really that sort of back, is he?
I just saw Banner on television. He says he completely understands the criticism and skepticism for now. His hope is that it will eventually be proven wrong. I respect and appreciate that he made the statement, but my feeling is that you don't make that statement if you think everyone is on-board with it. So, there is an official acknowledgement that the trade may not look that great from the Browns end.
Screw you Banner- us fans are tired of this shit- and you're going to start hearing the chorus in boo flat come the end of September.
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I sure as hell hope they know what the F they are doing, Trich was a decent running back.
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We can get a 3.5 in rounds 2-4.
Lesean McCoy, Alfred Morris, DeMarco Murray, Jamaal Charles, Arian Foster...all taken outside the first round. All have better than a 3.5 YPC. All would be welcomed on this team.
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Anyone here remember the Herschel Walker Trade ?
Ended up having a pretty huge impact for Dallas.
I look at this pretty much the same way, even though it's not as lucrative as that trade was.
Anyone here remember the Herschel Walker Trade ?
Ended up having a pretty huge impact for Dallas.
I look at this pretty much the same way, even though it's not as lucrative as that trade was.
what a stupid comparison is that, there were 18 players and 3 1st rounders involved in this trade backt then, numerous 2nd and 3rd rounders as well....you will receive a first rounder in the twenties
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well maybe banner and lombardi will know enough now not to draft a RB in the top 20 ever again (unless it's a guaranteed AP).
my prob is NOW that weeden is hurt and gordon is coming back...............well, he'll have no chance to show his worth (if there is any) especially with no running game. which means the FO will be 'all in' on finding a NEW franchise QB, meaning all those picks, at least half will be gone in positioning for their coveted players.
i don't trust anyone in this org to make a decent pick, especially on a QB.
fix the Oline, get another starting CB and go from there.
ring around the rosey, pocket full of poseys...................
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Can't you idiots see what we're doing here? We use our top 3 pick on our franchise QB then use the Colts pick on a top rated WR. Who can honestly sit here and tell me trading Mr. 3.5 for a top rated WR isnt a good decision. RBs are damn easy to replace. Especially a horrible one.
I was thinking we needed two 1st rounders for a new QB and WR and was thinking how we would go about acquiring it.
Well Banner just let us know how.
Great move.
Can't you idiots see what we're doing here? We use our top 3 pick on our franchise QB then use the Colts pick on a top rated WR. Who can honestly sit here and tell me trading Mr. 3.5 for a top rated WR isnt a good decision. RBs are damn easy to replace. Especially a horrible one.
I was thinking we needed two 1st rounders for a new QB and WR and was thinking how we would go about acquiring it.
Well Banner just let us know how.
Great move.
STFU. not all of us are 17 years old and can wait another 50 years for the same old 'wait til next year!' bullshit.
let me guess. you want to tank the season so you can grab your fave QB to be annointed king before he's even stepped on the NFL field?
well why don't you start with the Oline and defensive backfield first next year in the draft?
you know the 2 units that cost us the first 2 games this year. not the RBs, not the QB, not the wide receivers.
hopefully banner and lombardi know a little bit more about how to build a team than you do.
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Can't you idiots see what we're doing here? We use our top 3 pick on our franchise QB then use the Colts pick on a top rated WR. Who can honestly sit here and tell me trading Mr. 3.5 for a top rated WR isnt a good decision. RBs are damn easy to replace. Especially a horrible one.
I was thinking we needed two 1st rounders for a new QB and WR and was thinking how we would go about acquiring it.
Well Banner just let us know how.
Great move.
STFU. not all of us are 17 years old and can wait another 50 years for the same old 'wait til next year!' bullshit.
let me guess. you want to tank the season so you can grab your fave QB to be annointed king before he's even stepped on the NFL field?
well why don't you start with the Oline and defensive backfield first next year in the draft?
you know the 2 units that cost us the first 2 games this year. not the RBs, not the QB, not the wide receivers.
hopefully banner and lombardi know a little bit more about how to build a team than you do.
After Adrian Peterson (7th, '07), the next 5 leading rushers in NFL last season were drafted 173rd, 12th, 73rd, 31st and Not At All.STFU. nit all of us are 17 years old and can wait another 50 years for the same old 'wait til next year!' bullshit.
let me guess. you want to tank the season so you can grab your fave QB to be annointed king before he's even stepped on the NFL field?
well why don't you start with the Oline and defensive backfield first next year in the draft?
you know the 2 units that cost us the first 2 games this year. not the RBs, not the QB, not the wide receivers.
hopefully banner and lombardi know a little bit more about how to build a team than you do.
You can get a RB from rounds 2-7 to perform just as good, if not better, than Trent has so far. Don't believe me? Ask LeSean McCoy. Ask Arian Foster. Ask Demarco Murray. Ask Bernard Pierce.
Ask Frank Gore. Ask Ahmad Bradshaw. Ask Stevan Ridley. Ask Isaac Redman.
All had higher YPC than Richardson last season, all were taken outside the first two rounds or not even drafted at all.
And if you don't believe them, ask nearly all of the 40 qualified players (100 carries+) that finished with a higher YPC average than Richardson did. Only a select few were first rounders. The rest- middle to late rounders.
If we get a franchise QB and an impact WR/CB/OG in the first round and a RB in rounds 2-4 that gets 900ish yards and a sackful of TD's (pedestrian numbers similar to Richardson's), this trade will be a great success.
But you keep pretending that Richardson was some great talent and that we really screwed ourselves.
Hopefully a Banner and Lombardi know a lot more about building a team than you do.
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I sure as hell hope they know what the F they are doing, Trich was a decent running back.
I sure as hell hope they know what the F they are doing, Trich was a decent running back.
For the 3rd pick in the draft?? Decent describes maybe your 3rd or 4th back "Great" should describe the 3rd pick especially when you trade up to get him.
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After Adrian Peterson (7th, '07), the next 5 leading rushers in NFL last season were drafted 173rd, 12th, 73rd, 31st and Not At All.STFU. nit all of us are 17 years old and can wait another 50 years for the same old 'wait til next year!' bullshit.
let me guess. you want to tank the season so you can grab your fave QB to be annointed king before he's even stepped on the NFL field?
well why don't you start with the Oline and defensive backfield first next year in the draft?
you know the 2 units that cost us the first 2 games this year. not the RBs, not the QB, not the wide receivers.
hopefully banner and lombardi know a little bit more about how to build a team than you do.
You can get a RB from rounds 2-7 to perform just as good, if not better, than Trent has so far. Don't believe me? Ask LeSean McCoy. Ask Arian Foster. Ask Demarco Murray. Ask Bernard Pierce.
Ask Frank Gore. Ask Ahmad Bradshaw. Ask Stevan Ridley. Ask Isaac Redman.
All had higher YPC than Richardson last season, all were taken outside the first two rounds or not even drafted at all.
And if you don't believe them, ask nearly all of the 40 qualified players (100 carries+) that finished with a higher YPC average than Richardson did. Only a select few were first rounders. The rest- middle to late rounders.
If we get a franchise QB and an impact WR/CB/OG in the first round and a RB in rounds 2-4 that gets 900ish yards and a sackful of TD's (pedestrian numbers similar to Richardson's), this trade will be a great success.
But you keep pretending that Richardson was some great talent and that we really screwed ourselves.
Hopefully a Banner and Lombardi know a lot more about building a team than you do.
After Adrian Peterson (7th, '07), the next 5 leading rushers in NFL last season were drafted 173rd, 12th, 73rd, 31st and Not At All.
You can get a RB from rounds 2-7 to perform just as good, if not better, than Trent has so far. Don't believe me? Ask LeSean McCoy. Ask Arian Foster. Ask Demarco Murray. Ask Bernard Pierce.
Ask Frank Gore. Ask Ahmad Bradshaw. Ask Stevan Ridley. Ask Isaac Redman.
All had higher YPC than Richardson last season, all were taken outside the first two rounds or not even drafted at all.
And if you don't believe them, ask nearly all of the 40 qualified players (100 carries+) that finished with a higher YPC average than Richardson did. Only a select few were first rounders. The rest- middle to late rounders.
If we get a franchise QB and an impact WR/CB/OG in the first round and a RB in rounds 2-4 that gets 900ish yards and a sackful of TD's (pedestrian numbers similar to Richardson's), this trade will be a great success.
But you keep pretending that Richardson was some great talent and that we really screwed ourselves.
Hopefully a Banner and Lombardi know a lot more about building a team than you do.
Great post! With numbers and FACTS to back it up.
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I sure as hell hope they know what the F they are doing, Trich was a decent running back.
For the 3rd pick in the draft?? Decent describes maybe your 3rd or 4th back "Great" should describe the 3rd pick especially when you trade up to get him.
For the 3rd pick in the draft?? Decent describes maybe your 3rd or 4th back "Great" should describe the 3rd pick especially when you trade up to get him.
Who cares after he was drafted if he was the first or the last person drafted, the Draft isn't an exact science(see Chad pennington going before tom brady), he was productive last year in a bad offense with an injury and still got 950yds rushing in his rookie season. The colts imo got a steal.
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