TRICH traded to colts
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Zombo said:
Everyone keeps saying that RBs are a dime a dozen.
Then how come we don't have one? We don't have a dime?
We don't have one NFL carry on our tailback depth chart and we play a league game in three days.
Zombo
Because our line isn't getting it done right now. Ghoolie and Rich say linemen are a dime a dozen and bring in skill players. I am all about the beef. I say if you have linemen who can dominate, even you or I could gain a few yards. A young stud who knows what he is doing can gain a bunch.
Because our line isn't getting it done right now. Ghoolie and Rich say linemen are a dime a dozen and bring in skill players. I am all about the beef. I say if you have linemen who can dominate, even you or I could gain a few yards. A young stud who knows what he is doing can gain a bunch.
Fear not about Ghoolie - he's so far off base about the O-line it isn't' funny. LT get routinely drafted in the first round- that's not dime a dozen. What I'm seeing is a Browns o-line (at least the right side) constantly getting shoved into the qb, and can rarely, if ever get to the second level on blocking running plays. Chance Warmack or T-Rich easy decision.
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Because our line isn't getting it done right now. Ghoolie and Rich say linemen are a dime a dozen and bring in skill players. I am all about the beef. I say if you have linemen who can dominate, even you or I could gain a few yards. A young stud who knows what he is doing can gain a bunch.
Fear not about Ghoolie - he's so far off base about the O-line it isn't' funny. LT get routinely drafted in the first round- that's not dime a dozen. What I'm seeing is a Browns o-line (at least the right side) constantly getting shoved into the qb, and can rarely, if ever get to the second level on blocking running plays. Chance Warmack or T-Rich easy decision.
Fear not about Ghoolie - he's so far off base about the O-line it isn't' funny. LT get routinely drafted in the first round- that's not dime a dozen. What I'm seeing is a Browns o-line (at least the right side) constantly getting shoved into the qb, and can rarely, if ever get to the second level on blocking running plays. Chance Warmack or T-Rich easy decision.
yep. if only we had level headed personnel in the FO to make such picks. the thing is, around here everyone is so worried about making the wrong pick that that's exactly what they do.
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asshole
totally. shows you his age.
totally. shows you his age.
Erie Dawg is an ignorant fool and I'm not sure what you are. Sometimes you're alright but usually you sound a bit like you're on a three day meth bender. Whether you Like it or not dancin' Trent is a colt now. Sack up and realize it. The only way out is through.
By the way you're all crying because an exceedingly average football player got traded! Is this really how empty your life is?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
dude WE are not crying. get it?
you just keep stickin the knife in PoG's side.
we all know the guy is gone but can you let the dude have his 'mourning period' for christs' sake.
you sound like a bully on the playground. nah nah nahnah nah.
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The trade will be bad for the Browns. I was listening to NFL radio and basically D'qwell, and Joe Thomas are upset about this trade. THey are both leaders on the team and you know the locker room is a buzz about it. TRich was well liked and players respected him for playing hurt. Another thing is Dmitiri Patterson has been saying he was cut not because of his play but because he was telling Browns players not to trust Banner. That Banner was a snake. What do you think players are thinking of Banner now? If a Free Agent wants to sign with the Browns you don't think they'll talk to players on the team? Or former Players?
Now as far as TRich's play is concerned, its comparable to other rookie rb's who had good careers. You can't judge a player on 18 gms. Especially a rb. Lets look at some numbers of other backs in first 18gms.
First TRich's numbers
Last year 267 att 950yrds 3.6ypc 11tds 51 rec 367yrds 1td
Emmit Smith
1990
241att 937yrds 3.9ypc 11td 24rec 228yrds 0tds1991 led NFL in rushing
Rickey WIlliams
1999
253att 884yrds 3.5ypc 2tds 28rec 172yrds 0tds2000 first 2 games: 44att 134yrds 3.04ypc 0tds
YPC for a HOF RB his first 3 season 4.1, 3.7, 3.0
That RB was Marshal Faulk
LaDamian Thomilson averaged less than 4.0 ypc in 5 seasons (no they werent all at the end of his career)
Jerome Bettis avg 3.9ypc for his career in 13 seasons he only went over 4.0ypc 4 times and he's a HOF
Walter Payton 1975
196att 679yrds 7tds 33rec 213yrds 0tdsfirst game of 1976 25att 70 yrds 2.8ypc
So you can't call Trich a bust. You can't judge him on 18 gms. You fit the system to the players not the other way around. TRich was making 2-3mill a yr so he wasn't hurting the bottom line. As far as not being versatile look at his receptions last year he had 51, look at the other rb's listed he had more receptions than any of them as a rookie except faulk had 52. Thomilson, Emmitt, and Rickey Williams all played under Turner before and Smith, and Williams running styles were similar to Trents. This trade was about Lombardi's and Banners ego. So without knowing how TRich will turn out and the trade causing strife with the players they made this trade. This will come back and bite the Browns.
but people can do the same about weeden. And its a harder position to play. I bet weedens numbers don't stack up to anyone great thru only 17 gamesThe trade will be bad for the Browns. I was listening to NFL radio and basically D'qwell, and Joe Thomas are upset about this trade. THey are both leaders on the team and you know the locker room is a buzz about it. TRich was well liked and players respected him for playing hurt. Another thing is Dmitiri Patterson has been saying he was cut not because of his play but because he was telling Browns players not to trust Banner. That Banner was a snake. What do you think players are thinking of Banner now? If a Free Agent wants to sign with the Browns you don't think they'll talk to players on the team? Or former Players?
Now as far as TRich's play is concerned, its comparable to other rookie rb's who had good careers. You can't judge a player on 18 gms. Especially a rb. Lets look at some numbers of other backs in first 18gms.
First TRich's numbers
Last year 267 att 950yrds 3.6ypc 11tds 51 rec 367yrds 1td
Emmit Smith
1990
241att 937yrds 3.9ypc 11td 24rec 228yrds 0tds1991 led NFL in rushing
Rickey WIlliams
1999
253att 884yrds 3.5ypc 2tds 28rec 172yrds 0tds2000 first 2 games: 44att 134yrds 3.04ypc 0tds
YPC for a HOF RB his first 3 season 4.1, 3.7, 3.0
That RB was Marshal Faulk
LaDamian Thomilson averaged less than 4.0 ypc in 5 seasons (no they werent all at the end of his career)
Jerome Bettis avg 3.9ypc for his career in 13 seasons he only went over 4.0ypc 4 times and he's a HOF
Walter Payton 1975
196att 679yrds 7tds 33rec 213yrds 0tdsfirst game of 1976 25att 70 yrds 2.8ypc
So you can't call Trich a bust. You can't judge him on 18 gms. You fit the system to the players not the other way around. TRich was making 2-3mill a yr so he wasn't hurting the bottom line. As far as not being versatile look at his receptions last year he had 51, look at the other rb's listed he had more receptions than any of them as a rookie except faulk had 52. Thomilson, Emmitt, and Rickey Williams all played under Turner before and Smith, and Williams running styles were similar to Trents. This trade was about Lombardi's and Banners ego. So without knowing how TRich will turn out and the trade causing strife with the players they made this trade. This will come back and bite the Browns.
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There are some very valid points in there...
If everybody protested the browns for trading trent.... Would they bring him back? Has it ever happened before? Is it time?
There are some very valid points in there...
If everybody protested the browns for trading trent.... Would they bring him back? Has it ever happened before? Is it time?
They would do this during an away game as well, just so we couldn't do anything about it. Just like they did Paul Brown. When is enough, enough? We should strike, and get our Running Back back.
What would it cost? Would the Commish have to make an executive order? Rescind the trade... Then what would happen in Cleveland, would they play him? My head hurts...
Really, Cleveland should do something. This is unprecedented. It's nothing like taking the team from us, but it's still shiesty as fuck.
LOL, you haven't figured out yet Banner looks like a weasel? Take this caveat from an oldster- don't fall in love with a particular player, it will come back to haunt you.
PG, you have to realize most of the time I try to be the voice of reason around here- and regarding Trent- you just have to let it go. His ship has sailed to another port, never to return. Sure, we were upset when Belichick shit-canned Kosar- but at least Bernie had made a couple of Pro Bowls prior.
@ #3 overall Trent was drafted to be the next Adrian Peterson - I hate to tell you he's not, and in all probability never will be. Trent DOES NOT have elite speed or burst. Or besides, did you ignore some of those film breakdowns where he missed holes big enough to drive a car through? I doubt Chud and Banner did though.
So it is what it is- and who in hell knows if Dumbtardi has suddenly got it together to use all those draft picks we've stockpiled come May. If the Trent pick we got from the Colts and our #1 get us the next Joe Montana, this trade will look a little different. Too bad right now it pretty much throws the 2013 season in the tank.
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There are some very valid points in there...
If everybody protested the browns for trading trent.... Would they bring him back? Has it ever happened before? Is it time?
They would do this during an away game as well, just so we couldn't do anything about it. Just like they did Paul Brown. When is enough, enough? We should strike, and get our Running Back back.
What would it cost? Would the Commish have to make an executive order? Rescind the trade... Then what would happen in Cleveland, would they play him? My head hurts...
Really, Cleveland should do something. This is unprecedented. It's nothing like taking the team from us, but it's still shiesty as fuck.
LOL, you haven't figured out yet Banner looks like a weasel? Take this caveat from an oldster- don't fall in love with a particular player, it will come back to haunt you.
PG, you have to realize most of the time I try to be the voice of reason around here- and regarding Trent- you just have to let it go. His ship has sailed to another port, never to return. Sure, we were upset when Belichick shit-canned Kosar- but at least Bernie had made a couple of Pro Bowls prior.
@ #3 overall Trent was drafted to be the next Adrian Peterson - I hate to tell you he's not, and in all probability never will be. Trent DOES NOT have elite speed or burst. Or besides, did you ignore some of those film breakdowns where he missed holes big enough to drive a car through? I doubt Chud and Banner did though.
So it is what it is- and who in hell knows if Dumbtardi has suddenly got it together to use all those draft picks we've stockpiled come May. If the Trent pick we got from the Colts and our #1 get us the next Joe Montana, this trade will look a little different. Too bad right now it pretty much throws the 2013 season in the tank.
and who in hell knows if Dumbtardi has suddenly got it together to use all those draft picks we've stockpiled come May. If the Trent pick we got from the Colts and our #1 get us the next Joe Montana, this trade will look a little different. Too bad right now it pretty much throws the 2013 season in the tank.
and if they totally screw the 2014 draft up there will unmitigated outrageous call for lopping off both their heads.
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dude WE are not crying. get it?
you just keep stickin the knife in PoG's side.
we all know the guy is gone but can you let the dude have his 'mourning period' for christs' sake.
you sound like a bully on the playground. nah nah nahnah nah.
dude WE are not crying. get it?
you just keep stickin the knife in PoG's side.
we all know the guy is gone but can you let the dude have his 'mourning period' for christs' sake.
you sound like a bully on the playground. nah nah nahnah nah.
Problem is Mik- PG is a damn easy target, having unrealistic expectations about a particular player. And I give him huge props for sticking to his guns. There's perception- and then there's reality. PG is a McCoy and Cribbs fanboy too, Remember? Colt's not going to see the field again unless Kaepernic gets hurt- and to the best of my knowledge Cribbis is now sitting by the phone waiting for a call.
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and who in hell knows if Dumbtardi has suddenly got it together to use all those draft picks we've stockpiled come May. If the Trent pick we got from the Colts and our #1 get us the next Joe Montana, this trade will look a little different. Too bad right now it pretty much throws the 2013 season in the tank.
and if they totally screw the 2014 draft up there will unmitigated outrageous call for lopping off both their heads.
and if they totally screw the 2014 draft up there will unmitigated outrageous call for lopping off both their heads.
Amen, Bro- Banner already has his head on the chopping block- twice- once for hiring Dumbtardi, and now ostensibly throwing the season in the tank on a wing and a prayer.
Fer sure, should the Browns pull another 4-12 in 2014 Truck Stop Jimmy will take them out to a Flying J and have a semi run them both over- assuming he's not in jail by then.
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dude WE are not crying. get it?
you just keep stickin the knife in PoG's side.
we all know the guy is gone but can you let the dude have his 'mourning period' for christs' sake.
you sound like a bully on the playground. nah nah nahnah nah.
Problem is Mik- PG is a damn easy target, having unrealistic expectations about a particular player. And I give him huge props for sticking to his guns. There's perception- and then there's reality. PG is a McCoy and Cribbs fanboy too, Remember? Colt's not going to see the field again unless Kaepernic gets hurt- and to the best of my knowledge Cribbis is now sitting by the phone waiting for a call.
Problem is Mik- PG is a damn easy target, having unrealistic expectations about a particular player. And I give him huge props for sticking to his guns. There's perception- and then there's reality. PG is a McCoy and Cribbs fanboy too, Remember? Colt's not going to see the field again unless Kaepernic gets hurt- and to the best of my knowledge Cribbis is now sitting by the phone waiting for a call.
yeah. i know. but we all have a little of that in ourselves. for some reason i really liked william green. was hoping he could play at the next level which we found out o soon he couldn't but at least he was one of only 2 to 3 players ever to walk up to a steelers player and punch him in the grill. that fucker joey porter. i could care less that he got cut. that moment in time sealed the deal for me.
and of course (i've heard.....wasn't here then) the drama between the brady queef fans and the DA fans.
so we can't call out PoG for stickin by his player. we've all ranted about our faves in the past whether they were good or not.
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what a whiny, petulant bitch
don't jump on the kick PoG bandwagon bro, cuz i'll lose all respect which i have much.
wish i could meet you bra underneath the bridge on the the 29th. sure we would be toast by 10 AM. but if you go, get there early cuz the package i sent have some good and bad prints so first come first serve. muthafuckas.
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and if they totally screw the 2014 draft up there will unmitigated outrageous call for lopping off both their heads.
Amen, Bro- Banner already has his head on the chopping block- twice- once for hiring Dumbtardi, and now ostensibly throwing the season in the tank on a wing and a prayer.
Fer sure, should the Browns pull another 4-12 in 2014 Truck Stop Jimmy will take them out to a Flying J and have a semi run them both over- assuming he's not in jail by then.
Amen, Bro- Banner already has his head on the chopping block- twice- once for hiring Dumbtardi, and now ostensibly throwing the season in the tank on a wing and a prayer.
Fer sure, should the Browns pull another 4-12 in 2014 Truck Stop Jimmy will take them out to a Flying J and have a semi run them both over- assuming he's not in jail by then.
i think the overall consensus swirling around this whole week is how much browns' fans HAVE to love their team for putting up with all the Retarded shit that would lead other fans to put paper bags over their heads.
it's a tough game. cleveland is a tough town. we WILL get through this cuz we are the toughest fans inside and out.
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one day (hopefully in my lifetime) we WILL learn how to PROTECT THIS HOUSE!!
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No time for Holmgren to quit when he was too busy being fired for doing a terrible job.
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I read two posts in here and that's it.
My response, shut the fuck up and act like an adult.
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