TRICH traded to colts
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Its really hard to say. We don't know where the Colts draft pick will be, for all we know it could be top 10. Especially if Luck goes down due to his lousy line. Or they could be in the superbowl. The quality of the player we can get right now for that pick is really variable.
I'm of the thought that running backs are a dime a dozen. So the browns are ahead by default...though sort of down since they drafted t rich in the first place. Give me a cheap 5th round scat back like Dion Lewis and I'm perfectly content.
I think the move helped ensure we will be able to snag a 1st round QB with our pick and then a WR or CB with that colts pick. Or package them up if its at all possible, to snag the top QB.
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This is the worst sports travesty since Lebron James went to south beach.
We had a franchise runningback that was the new face of the franchise.
He brought in a new generation of fans. All of Ohio is down in the dumps right now. Lombardi has to be in hiding, there must be a price on his head by now.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
wow, you talk a lot when you're drunk.
what did i say in my post that you totally disagree with?
uh, yes it's cold snowy and windy in the winter months in cleveland correct? how do QBs usually stack up under those conditions?
that's all. sure if weeden were smart enough he might do it. josh freeman is big and strong enough to do it.
RG3, i think not.
listen dude i don't even know what this thread is about anymore.
but i agree whole-heartedly about couch. the minute i saw him in the hall of fame game throw the over the shoulder 30 yarder to KJ i thought we were back for real and in good condition. too bad butch loaded up on defensive busts instead of OLinemen.
My point is that were a QB away from competing. Not a CB away. Not a OL away.
Yes, we do need a #2 corner. Yes we probably need at least one guard. Yes we need a #2 WR. But first and foremost we need a QB.
A good QB and we win 8 games.
We haven't had the nutsack to go out and get a good one in 10 years. We keep settling for mediocre ones and that's proven to be completely ineffective.
My point is that were a QB away from competing. Not a CB away. Not a OL away.
Yes, we do need a #2 corner. Yes we probably need at least one guard. Yes we need a #2 WR. But first and foremost we need a QB.
A good QB and we win 8 games.
We haven't had the nutsack to go out and get a good one in 10 years. We keep settling for mediocre ones and that's proven to be completely ineffective.
you don't think the jury is still out on weeden? i mean we did use a number one pick for him. he looked really good in some of the preseason games and had moments in the first 2 where people actually thought that hey he's starting to get it.
OR
do we trade him away too?
just asking.
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I consider the trade to be a positive for the Browns....just wish the timing was better. However, you have to make the deal when the opportunity presents itself. The only reral problem I see is, while the first round pick is more value than Richardson, to most NFL teams, is it really that valuable to us?.....given our history of drafting?
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We could have gotten:
2014
First Round Pick
Second Round Pick
Fourth Round Pick
2015
Second Round Pick
This is the Price to receive a franchise runningback.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
dude WE are not crying. get it?
you just keep stickin the knife in PoG's side.
we all know the guy is gone but can you let the dude have his 'mourning period' for christs' sake.
you sound like a bully on the playground. nah nah nahnah nah.
dude WE are not crying. get it?
you just keep stickin the knife in PoG's side.
we all know the guy is gone but can you let the dude have his 'mourning period' for christs' sake.
you sound like a bully on the playground. nah nah nahnah nah.
Ha! Theres 27 pages of this whiny end of the world crap. Pog is NOT the only one butthurt enough to threaten to boycott the browns over it. He's simply the loudest mouth on the subject.
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This is the worst sports travesty since Lebron James went to south beach.
We had a franchise runningback that was the new face of the franchise.
He brought in a new generation of fans. All of Ohio is down in the dumps right now. Lombardi has to be in hiding, there must be a price on his head by now.
This is the worst sports travesty since Lebron James went to south beach.
We had a franchise runningback that was the new face of the franchise.
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He brought in a new generation of fans. All of Ohio is down in the dumps right now. Lombardi has to be in h iding, there must be a price on his head by now.
Come on, man. Seriously?
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We could have gotten:
2014
First Round Pick
Second Round Pick
Fourth Round Pick
2015
Second Round Pick
This is the Price to receive a franchise runningback.
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SNAFU
Situation
Normal
All
Fucked
Up
Browns get ripped off. Because......don't we always?
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I have calmed down some since Wednesday (I wanted to burn my season tickets when I first heard about it). This is an unusual trade by NFL standards, as for the most part, trades aren't very common, especially once the season starts. This is a big time PR disaster IMHO, as there must have been 20,000 T Rich shirts/jerseys at the opener...I haven't seen a player so popular since Kosar.
Short term- Colts should be the big winners. It will be interesting to see T Rich on astroturf the rest of the year. I see the Colts game is on TV in our area Sunday, but I don't know how he'll do vs. the 49ers- I doubt he makes a big impact this week. The Colts now have 2 of the top 3 picks from 2012, so I'd expect them to at least win the AFC South.
Long term- all speculation of course, but the Browns can't blow this pick. I hope they don't trade picks either, I want players (who contribute). If Banner is the genius he thinks he is, we'll be ok.
Always a fan, but I'm just as sick about the constant rebuilding as anybody. Somehow, someway, beat the Ratbirds, Cincy, & Squealers this season and I can calm down even more.
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I have calmed down some since Wednesday (I wanted to burn my season tickets when I first heard about it). This is an unusual trade by NFL standards, as for the most part, trades aren't very common, especially once the season starts. This is a big time PR disaster IMHO, as there must have been 20,000 T Rich shirts/jerseys at the opener...I haven't seen a player so popular since Kosar.
Short term- Colts should be the big winners. It will be interesting to see T Rich on astroturf the rest of the year. I see the Colts game is on TV in our area Sunday, but I don't know how he'll do vs. the 49ers- I doubt he makes a big impact this week. The Colts now have 2 of the top 3 picks from 2012, so I'd expect them to at least win the AFC South.
Long term- all speculation of course, but the Browns can't blow this pick. I hope they don't trade picks either, I want players (who contribute). If Banner is the genius he thinks he is, we'll be ok.
Always a fan, but I'm just as sick about the constant rebuilding as anybody. Somehow, someway, beat the Ratbirds, Cincy, & Squealers this season and I can calm down even more.
we haven't truly rebuilt since we've been backI have calmed down some since Wednesday (I wanted to burn my season tickets when I first heard about it). This is an unusual trade by NFL standards, as for the most part, trades aren't very common, especially once the season starts. This is a big time PR disaster IMHO, as there must have been 20,000 T Rich shirts/jerseys at the opener...I haven't seen a player so popular since Kosar.
Short term- Colts should be the big winners. It will be interesting to see T Rich on astroturf the rest of the year. I see the Colts game is on TV in our area Sunday, but I don't know how he'll do vs. the 49ers- I doubt he makes a big impact this week. The Colts now have 2 of the top 3 picks from 2012, so I'd expect them to at least win the AFC South.
Long term- all speculation of course, but the Browns can't blow this pick. I hope they don't trade picks either, I want players (who contribute). If Banner is the genius he thinks he is, we'll be ok.
Always a fan, but I'm just as sick about the constant rebuilding as anybody. Somehow, someway, beat the Ratbirds, Cincy, & Squealers this season and I can calm down even more.
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we haven't truly rebuilt since we've been backI have calmed down some since Wednesday (I wanted to burn my season tickets when I first heard about it). This is an unusual trade by NFL standards, as for the most part, trades aren't very common, especially once the season starts. This is a big time PR disaster IMHO, as there must have been 20,000 T Rich shirts/jerseys at the opener...I haven't seen a player so popular since Kosar.
Short term- Colts should be the big winners. It will be interesting to see T Rich on astroturf the rest of the year. I see the Colts game is on TV in our area Sunday, but I don't know how he'll do vs. the 49ers- I doubt he makes a big impact this week. The Colts now have 2 of the top 3 picks from 2012, so I'd expect them to at least win the AFC South.
Long term- all speculation of course, but the Browns can't blow this pick. I hope they don't trade picks either, I want players (who contribute). If Banner is the genius he thinks he is, we'll be ok.
Always a fan, but I'm just as sick about the constant rebuilding as anybody. Somehow, someway, beat the Ratbirds, Cincy, & Squealers this season and I can calm down even more.
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We got good value for Richardson, but we won't know who got the better part of this deal for a couple of more years, If the Browns are betting on a franchise QB,
it's up to them to pick one. (personally, right now I believe strictly based on playing the game, and not off the field stuff, Manziel is way above the rest)
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ONE LATE FIRST ROUND PICK?!
THAT IS NOT GOOD VALUE!!
Pretty much a second rounder after the fact. Jim Irsay would have been willing to give up MUCH, MUCH, MUCH more to get Richardson.
#The MOTHER OF ALL TRADES!
#SHOCK AND AWE!!!
Like I said, the Falcons gave up much more to move up from 22 or so to pick Julio Jones... this is a worse deal by a great down and distance!
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
Barnwell and Simmons have good thoughts on the trade over on grantland.com
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This is the worst sports travesty since Lebron James went to south beach.
We had a franchise runningback that was the new face of the franchise.
He brought in a new generation of fans. All of Ohio is down in the dumps right now. Lombardi has to be in hiding, there must be a price on his head by now.
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Trent was not anything special with us but of course now that he's with Indy he'll probably run for 150 and 3 tds tomorrow.
By the end of the college season there will be a clear number one quarterback that pulls ahead of the pack and we'll be 1 or 2 draft slots shy of snagging him.
The leftover QB will probably be a bust and we'll be "rebuilding" again come 2015-16.
That just how it works out for the Browns.
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It's simple with me. Now that Holmgren has come out so harshly against the deal, I'm all in on it even more. People don't want to come to come to games this year,
great, I'll have extra cup holders I can use.
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